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20XX and MNCB in Major Tournaments

Will 20XX or MNCB become the standard setup for competitive Melee in the next three years?

  • Yes, and I support the change

    Votes: 5 31.3%
  • Yes, but I don't think it will happen

    Votes: 2 12.5%
  • No, but I want it to happen

    Votes: 2 12.5%
  • No, and I want tournament Melee to stay as it is

    Votes: 7 43.8%

  • Total voters
    16

ChainArmour712

Smash Cadet
Joined
Oct 17, 2013
Messages
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Location
Pennsylvania
Well, nobody seems to have mentioned this yet and I think it's worth discussing:

So, it is the year 2015 and we now have the mods 20XX and the Melee Netplay Community Build which in my view contribute immensely to the Melee metagame. In particular, the new stages give some much needed variety to tournaments and make the game more exciting to watch and play. In my view, having more than two legal stages with bright graphics makes the game friendlier to experience as a viewer- in particular the scenery in the new Green Greens and Snag the Trophies stages are beautiful and better to watch than the dark pit of Battlefield.

So, my question is this: Will we get to a point in the next 1-3 years where 20XX or the MNCB become the standard setup for major tournaments?

On one side like I have stated already, I think the new stages do add a lot to the game, especially when Sm4sh already has Omega stages and bright surroundings (plus Smashville) are a lot more visually appealing than the dark Melee stages. Plus, new platform setups in these stages give a wider variety of strategies on them. As Melee discs become rarer and more valuable and as the Wii becomes the preferred console for Melee, I think the time is right for majors such as Evo and The Big House to make the switch. Already, I play most of my Melee on Dolphin and most of the Wiis at my college are running 20XX. It seems apparent that we won't be getting Melee HD for years, if ever. In my view, the game has been out fourteen years and technology has improved; it's time to make the switch.

On the other hand, I could still see a few reasons why some would oppose this change. Not everyone has a Wii or the motivation to switch to these mods, and some could be salty playing on stages they don't recognize. More importantly, Nintendo might not look on the whole thing amicably and try to ban streaming as they did with Project M. Frankly I think they couldn't care less about Melee at this point but I'm not Nintendo either.

Overall, I think the benefits of making 20XX or MNCB the tournament standard far outweigh the drawbacks. The Wii is now dirt cheap and the advent of Dolphin makes this move more feasible than ever. What do the esteemed members of the Melee community think of this question?
 

Y-L

Smash Champion
Joined
Jan 16, 2014
Messages
2,436
Location
Ventura, CA
With 20XXTE coming out soon and with it being able to run on gamecube, that has a much better chance than anything to be a standard. However I don't think custom stages or anything will ever be the norm. People don't like to play nodded stuff even if it's better. I can see some tournaments maybe allowing frozen pokemon stadium or neutral start being on but that's probably the extent of it.
 

Fortress | Sveet

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You can't put custom stages or textures on the memory card AFAIK, so using TE isn't going to work.
 

Sieghart

Smash Apprentice
Joined
May 14, 2015
Messages
173
Custom content in any way shape or form will likely never be the standard because that's not a risk worth taking. Major tournaments will most likely only use vanilla Melee. There's no good reason to risk it seeing as you're only there to compete at any one major tounrnament once per year. It's just not worth it.

On the other hand, lesser tournaments like locals with weeklies and monthlies will likely have 20XXTE as the default.
 
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Quillion

Smash Hero
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
6,006
No, it won't be legal in major tournaments at all.

You can thank Nintendo's stupid lawyers for trying to get Melee out of EVO for that, which caused Nintendo to become active in the scene.

The fact that Nintendo does not like Project M must say something.
 
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