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1 Round of Pools -> 128 Man Bracket

For a very large National-scale Smash event which idea do you think is best?

  • 1 Round of pools, 6 to 7 people per pool, top 2 make it out, 128 man bracket

    Votes: 1 3.6%
  • 1 Round of pools, 6 to 7 people per pool, top 3 make it out, 192 man bracket

    Votes: 20 71.4%
  • 1 Round of pools, 6 to 7 people per pool, top 2 make it out, 128 man bracket, 64 man Amateur bracket

    Votes: 7 25.0%

  • Total voters
    28
  • Poll closed .

Alex Strife

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Cannot do a pool but I wanted to put this out there.

64 pools of 6-7 people top 2 make it out
128 man bracket after that


Thoughts?


I think it gives casuals a lot of matches and the people who make it out are able to go right into bracket.

This is a format I am considering for international events where there are too many people and not enough time to do 2 rounds of pools.

This is not official just curious to see responses
 

Codi

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Top 2 make it out makes it really difficult for new upcoming players to make it out and get a chance to shine. Especially if they are pooled with the pros. This could even effect some people who are considered pros when they are have an off day and end up not making it out. Just my opinion though
 

Alex Strife

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one idea is one round of pools top 3 make it out as well...like i said i wanna hear suggestions.
 

Nintendude

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I much prefer any format in which top-3 advance, if only top-2 advance it's possible to drop only 1 set but still fail to advance (which happened at Apex).

Even though top-3 advance with 64 pools doesn't produce a power of 2 number of entrants, making the bracket is still easy. You end up with a 256-man bracket with 64 byes, one for each 1st seed. This can be scaled down of course. So if you were to add a 2nd round of 32 pools in which top-3 advance (or if you started with 32 pools), you'd end up with a 128-man bracket with 32 byes.
 

KishPrime

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Agreed. I can not say strongly enough how important it is to advance at least three from a pool, otherwise you're not really accomplishing what pools are setting out to do. The three-way tie wrecks it. 3 is acceptable. 4 is much better in case of a second-place tie, but you can't protect people forever.
 

Strong Badam

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i think you should have enough time to advance 4 players each in one round, and have another round where you dwindle the rest down to 48 or so depending on #.
 

M@v

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Crap voted for wrong one. I vote for last option, meant to vote for top 3 make it out, 192 bracket :3
 

MaskedMarth

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Methinks it's too hard to put people fairly into R1 pools (though the SSBPD ratings will help) to have only two people advance anyways, in addition to the problem of the 3-way tie. I'm not convinced the huge bracket is a good idea, though. I wonder if it would be possible to do a Swiss to qualify for (a smaller) bracket instead of pools.
 
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