What's the reaction you're expecting? People get mad. Yes, that's a thing. Is it going to result in real world consequences? Doing this for 15 years has shown me that's it's very unlikely. I'm honestly burned out on the idea that the Geno fanbase is any different than other character fanbase and that we're going to shoot up grocery stores or there's going to be mass suicides if Geno's not in. Has literally anybody in the thread given off these vibes or has this kind of behavior been encouraged? The answer is no. The Ridley fanbase at the end of Smash 4 was whipped into a frenzy and they more or less tried to shut down the entire site so I have actually seen the difference between fanbases taking disappointment well and not at all. The Geno fanbase doesn't display the warning signs and, given the thread is under constant surveillance, I think the fear of people "being angry" and causing actual problems is misplaced.
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CannonStreak
It's not fear I have. It's me expecting what is going to happen. JUst because it has not happened yet doesn't mean it won't, and even if it isn't that big, I am sure it will be big regardless. I can especially see that being the case for QQS.
Listen, you shouldn't try to speak for everyone. With positivity this big and hope and expectations also this big, you can't go in and expect everyone to not be disappointed and angry. This happens all the time and in the real world. Now, I was, and still am worried that Geno not being in is still going to have a negative impact on people's minds, and it may hurt with positivity being this high and expectations being this high, regardless of what they do or don't do. You can't say it won't be minimal, too. While I don't know what will be the final magnitude of it, I know disappointment and anger will happen regardless, and it will likely be big enough. Just because there are no warning signs, does not mean it won't happen. I think you are looking at the present and past more than thinking of the future here. And about Geno being any different from other threads, I find the Geno thread's situation to be more unique, given how positive and not listening to anyone who disagrees about Geno or thinks Geno is not in. In fact, I think the constant surveillance is why there has not been that much of anger going around. People can still hide their anger and not show it. You are basically judging a book by its cover by not knowing how people feel inside, and even if they did, they still would hide by possibly lying. You don't know everything.
I won't try to change things, for I don't care. But with the level of positivity and not listening to reason, I don't fear what would happen. I know what could happen, and how likely it is. I have seen much of what happens in the end about pretty much anything and anyone on the internet. I don't see how the Geno thread would be any different. Even if I am wrong, I cannot imagine myself being wrong to a big degree. There will be disappointment of some level, and even if it is not a temper tantrum, or overly big, I can see minds being hurt. It is inevitable. I know human nature and the human mind well.
I am not expecting you to change, or go by what I said, but I do feel there will be things that are not good from too much positive.
Listen, you shouldn't try to speak for everyone. With positivity this big and hope and expectations also this big, you can't go in and expect everyone to not be disappointed and angry. This happens all the time and in the real world. Now, I was, and still am worried that Geno not being in is still going to have a negative impact on people's minds, and it may hurt with positivity being this high and expectations being this high, regardless of what they do or don't do. You can't say it won't be minimal, too. While I don't know what will be the final magnitude of it, I know disappointment and anger will happen regardless, and it will likely be big enough. Just because there are no warning signs, does not mean it won't happen. I think you are looking at the present and past more than thinking of the future here. And about Geno being any different from other threads, I find the Geno thread's situation to be more unique, given how positive and not listening to anyone who disagrees about Geno or thinks Geno is not in. In fact, I think the constant surveillance is why there has not been that much of anger going around. People can still hide their anger and not show it. You are basically judging a book by its cover by not knowing how people feel inside, and even if they did, they still would hide by possibly lying. You don't know everything.
I won't try to change things, for I don't care. But with the level of positivity and not listening to reason, I don't fear what would happen. I know what could happen, and how likely it is. I have seen much of what happens in the end about pretty much anything and anyone on the internet. I don't see how the Geno thread would be any different. Even if I am wrong, I cannot imagine myself being wrong to a big degree. There will be disappointment of some level, and even if it is not a temper tantrum, or overly big, I can see minds being hurt. It is inevitable. I know human nature and the human mind well.
I am not expecting you to change, or go by what I said, but I do feel there will be things that are not good from too much positive.
CannonStreak
By the way, this has nothing to do with mass suicides or shooting up grocery stores. This is just about being angry. Don't twist it.
Fatmanonice
First off, absolutely nothing has suggested QQS would do anything destructive. He's a really positive guy and that's literally it. The guy's also as old as me so him not "snapping" with Brawl or Smash 4 is already telling in itself.
Yes, people are going to be disappointed and angry if things don't pan out. That's natural. Aside from the Ridley fanbase in Smash 4 and arguably the Isaac fanbase for Ultimate following the November Direct, it has never resulted in anything genuinely bad. It usually amounts to people being grumpy for awhile and that's literally it. I don't understand this whole Cassandra bit where the Geno fanbase (specifically on one site, mind you) is steering towards this unmitigated disaster of untold human suffering, as if I'm going to flick on the news and Nintendo of America is a roaring inferno.
As the thread is repeated reminded, we're all adults and everyone is responsible for their own reactions. If you wind up overly disappointed, that's on them especially since it's been repeatedly said to NOT act out or cause problems. This is why this gets old, as if the Geno fanbase is going to be responsible for this grand coup or widespread chaos if we don't get our way. Honestly, having talked to most members of the thread in private at some point, I don't think anyone is secretly a sleeper agent or the mental equivalent of a chained animal so I feel like these kinds of "fears" are greatly misplaced.
Yes, people are going to be disappointed and angry if things don't pan out. That's natural. Aside from the Ridley fanbase in Smash 4 and arguably the Isaac fanbase for Ultimate following the November Direct, it has never resulted in anything genuinely bad. It usually amounts to people being grumpy for awhile and that's literally it. I don't understand this whole Cassandra bit where the Geno fanbase (specifically on one site, mind you) is steering towards this unmitigated disaster of untold human suffering, as if I'm going to flick on the news and Nintendo of America is a roaring inferno.
As the thread is repeated reminded, we're all adults and everyone is responsible for their own reactions. If you wind up overly disappointed, that's on them especially since it's been repeatedly said to NOT act out or cause problems. This is why this gets old, as if the Geno fanbase is going to be responsible for this grand coup or widespread chaos if we don't get our way. Honestly, having talked to most members of the thread in private at some point, I don't think anyone is secretly a sleeper agent or the mental equivalent of a chained animal so I feel like these kinds of "fears" are greatly misplaced.
CannonStreak
I never said anything about doing things. Nor did I say anything about anyone doing anything bad. Just that is it mentally unhealthy, and it can hurt oneself a lot. I am still expecting raging, but on the internet only, through text. That is all. No crime sprees, no crusades, just people being hurt on the inside is what I am thinking about.
And even if you talked to most members, that is still the book of the cover. You don't know everything about them, and well, they may not know everything about themselves, which is also why I think there may be some chaos. Not the crime or picking on others, but even then, people could still pick on others like those who said Geno was not getting were wrong if he is in. You have me down wrong.
Listen, I am not asking you, or anyone else to change their perspective, but I am not talking about people doing anything to others if he is not in. Just themselves, and how they'll be upset, maybe depressed, like I bet QQS will be if he is wrong about Geno, and the outsiders who get on you and other Geno fans' case if he is not in,. I simply do not want to be part of the thread knowing that the self-hurting is going to happen. It may not be my business, but I know there will be consequences related to that.
I am not trying to be rude, I was just saying.
And even if you talked to most members, that is still the book of the cover. You don't know everything about them, and well, they may not know everything about themselves, which is also why I think there may be some chaos. Not the crime or picking on others, but even then, people could still pick on others like those who said Geno was not getting were wrong if he is in. You have me down wrong.
Listen, I am not asking you, or anyone else to change their perspective, but I am not talking about people doing anything to others if he is not in. Just themselves, and how they'll be upset, maybe depressed, like I bet QQS will be if he is wrong about Geno, and the outsiders who get on you and other Geno fans' case if he is not in,. I simply do not want to be part of the thread knowing that the self-hurting is going to happen. It may not be my business, but I know there will be consequences related to that.
I am not trying to be rude, I was just saying.