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Deleted member 189823
People with half a brain just stay a mile away, like they should.
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Slyperema
made an account just to respond





lol
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Deleted member 189823
Why.
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StoicPhantom
Watch these if you haven't already:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtTCtxeFB5M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrX17sSHdWw

The top one, is a good example of how to use Phantom, just skip the first game. Notice how any time the Palutena dropped back, he used Phantom to help block projectiles or cover his approach. Palu's difficult to approach, so using Phantom as cover or to coax her out of her shell, is helpful. Raykushi's Phantom follow ups are still rough around the edges I think, but a more polished Zelda should be able to do quite a lot with it.

The bottom one, is a good example of how not to use Phantom. Notice how he got punished for using Phantom too close or when DK was directly overhead. Or just missed obvious follow ups in general. When spacing Phantom, make sure you can either stuff aerial approaches with the overhead slash or can release it in time to avoid punishes. Observe the options the opponent has and then choose the proper punish. Like when DK jumped that one time and Raykushi went for a kick and missed, when an Up-air would have sufficed.

If they're backing off, that's a good sign it's working. The more you back them to the ledge, the less options they have, so keep moving up and gain stage control. Once backed to the ledge, they basically have jump or roll. Practice those Up-air or Nair snipes and roll punishes. Ultimate nerfed reactive play, so you need to manipulate space and limit options, so you can force them into a position that you actually can hit/punish them. Phantom is good for that, if they want to keep backing off, well then that just means more space for you.

Snake's grenades work very similar to Phantom, so you can also watch top level Snake play, for examples on how you can manipulate space and trap opponents.
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StoicPhantom
And I guess, watch the Diddy set that was posted in the MU thread, that has some better examples.
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Deleted member 189823
Yeah, don't mind me. It was just the heat at the moment (aka another ****ty ass practice session). Really gets to me and is the closest thing to a testament I'm not improving. Phantom doesn't suck, but I know I do (when **** doesn't work, anyway).

Phantom's pretty good and I just need to perfect the RAR displacement.
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Deleted member 189823
I never saw this Raykushi guy before, but I've heard of him. I know he placed within the top 100 or so in of these important tournaments. I can pretty much tell someone's good right off the bat, and I got a really good impression of him. Some of the best use of Phantom so far, fairly convervative with them. Also made me realise I might have to roll a little more (I never roll).
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