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Is bair still good? If not you curl up and cry.

Its... ok. It was kinda nerfed. But yeah, crying seems good. Yoshi's airspeed makes it incredibly difficult. Isn't gimpability supposed to be a weakness of his? Because he seems impossible to gimp, due to airspeed and eggs covering him.

Since our double jump doesn't dip down anymore we recover incredibly quickly so any "gimps" that happens is lucky footstools or throwing aerials in his face and hoping he doesn't DJ armor through it. If a gimp does happen it was the Yoshi players fault for dying or underestimating knockback of a move if he's above 60+%

Otherwise gimping isn't really a good excuse to make Yoshi seem bad or a weakness anymore, hell DJ airdodge is very likely incredibly good for Yoshi now cause of the no dip down stupidity. Also throwing eggs while under the stage gets rid of his armor, so he most likely will never be using that move while recovering low.

Then what the heck are his weaknesses, and how do you "git gud" to beat him? Up close his jab seems unbeatable, at a distance (which he can always reattain thanks to ridiculous airspeed) his eggs are one of the best projectiles, and he's hard to combo because of amazing Nair, reasonably hard to kill because of good weight, and ungimpable.

er actually, it's not just his nair that makes comboing him hard, but double jump armor combined with amazing airspeed. lol

Honestly not sure how Kirby can handle Yoshi this time around lol
While it's not really a problem with trouble killing, it's more of fox syndrome where he has to go in and get the kills from a hard read, which means his 4 kill moves (f/upsmash fair and Uair) are all telegraphed.

Anyone that's dying to DownB usually their fault cause got jabbed by him or, as most people STILL do to this day, shield first part of it and gets hit by the 2nd by unshielding. Weaknesses still rushdown characters like ones I mentioned in that thread and having to commit and be in peoples faces if he wants to do anything worthwhile instead of just throwing eggs only

thanks i could help, bro