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[Jaguar360]

So, no changes to Zelda at all (http://smashboards.com/threads/1-1-3-patch-notes-release-pending.425921/). Bowser, Kirby, Mewtwo, Ganondorf, Lucas, Robin and others had plenty of changes but Zelda gets nothing...

I guess they really want Greninja to kill earlier lol. Base knockback buffs across the board for Smash attacks and Shadow Sneak.

I'm going to miss the Direct because I'll be taking my first final . Gonna try to not spoil myself and watch the whole thing when I get home even though I have another exam tomorrow I need to study for when I get home.

 

[Cress!]

Those Kirby buffs... whoa...
Also they fixed Lucas' grab tysm Sakurai love ya ^_^ (Most likely still bad but it looks a lot better than before so I'LL TAKE IT.)
No Zeldawful buffs confirms that she will be removed from the game soon THANK YOU AGAIN SAKURAI

 

[Lavani]

If those new FAFs for Lucas' grab are accurate it's gonna be terrifying fighting him

 

[Burgundy]

Are the patch notes spoiler-free? Cause I keep hearing about Kirby/Lucas buffs and I really wanna look. :O

 

[Furret]

Are the patch notes spoiler-free? Cause I keep hearing about Kirby/Lucas buffs and I really wanna look. :O

be more specific

Those Kirby buffs... whoa...

not really, there's a lot, but there are all small modifications. Uthrow is his only real change

 

[Burgundy]

be more specific

not really, there's a lot, but there are all small modifications. Uthrow is his only real change

Like, are new characters that were leaked listed in the Patch Notes? I wouldn't think they would be, but I wanna play it safe

 

[Ffamran]

If those new FAFs for Lucas' grab are accurate it's gonna be terrifying fighting him

That reminds me... I have to update my recovery frames spreadsheet now... Let's see, if Lucas's st. grab total frames ends at frame 37... Is active from frames 12-19... He has 19 recovery frames to his old 31. That's just 6 more recovery frames than Greninja's, but with a crapton more range. Dash grab would be 26 and pivot would be 31 to the old versions' 39 and 36. Welp... I wonder what would happen if all the tether grabbers had lower total frames... *ZSS becomes SSS-tier*

 

[Furret]

Like, are new characters that were leaked listed in the Patch Notes? I wouldn't think they would be, but I wanna play it safe

no just

That reminds me... I have to update my recovery frames spreadsheet now... Let's see, if Lucas's st. grab total frames ends at frame 37... Is active from frames 12-19... He has 19 recovery frames. That's just 6 more recovery frames than Greninja's, but with a crapton more range. Dash grab would be 26 and pivot would be 31 to the old versions' 39 and 30. Welp... I wonder what would happen if all the tether grabbers had lower total frames... *ZSS becomes SSS-tier*

ew, gross thought

 

[Ffamran]

ew, gross thought

Not for SBphiloz4 . Gonna love them feet stomping all over you, right?

 

[BJN39]

wow
wait the patch is out for some people? Are they just mining something they don't yet have? I need info

Literally nothing for Zeldaawful's hitboxes...?

 

[FullMoon]

Greninja kills earlier now and Lucas buffs?

I love you Sakurai.

 

[SBphiloz4]

Not for SBphiloz4 . Gonna love them feet stomping all over you, right?

wow
wait the patch is out for some people? Are they just mining something they don't yet have? I need info

Literally nothing for Zeldaawful's hitboxes...?

Dataminers doing work pretty much

but yeah seems like if we're getting anything at all, it will just be FAF changes

my guess is that we'll suffer more ending lag after phantom tbh :^)

 

[Burgundy]

Yay for /buffs~ Maybe I can actually grab now ooh boy.

 

[Furret]

wow
wait the patch is out for some people? Are they just mining something they don't yet have? I need info

Literally nothing for Zeldaawful's hitboxes...?

extract files off of some source that isn't the game itself or some jargon
nothing about FAFs or landing lag yet mind you

Greninja kills earlier now

other then uthrow -> Fspecial. I really don't see those changes killing more then 1-3% earlier

 

[FullMoon]

other then uthrow -> Fspecial. I really don't see those changes killing more then 1-3% earlier

I'll take whatever I can, it's not like Greninja needed buffs in the first place.

 

[Ffamran]

I'll take whatever I can, it's not like Greninja needed buffs in the first place.

Falco better get landing lag or total frame reductions, dammit! *Falco ends up being the only character outside of Cloud for obvious reasons to have no changes at all in 1.1.3*

 

[FullMoon]

Only thing I'll have to check after the patch comes out is whether they removed SSHC or not, as always.

 

[GS3K]

Apparently gunner's dsmash had some change to it. I'll have to play around with it once thr update drops to see if it messes with anything

Also why does my phone think gamefaqs is an 18+ adult website?

 

[EODM07]

I'll wait till the end of the Broadcast to see what kind of concrete changes have been made.

But from what people have dug up. Glad to see Bowser, Lucina & Shulk all got buffs.

 

[Lavani]

I'm ready for Bowsers to instill the fear of God in me with uthrow>uair

 

[FullMoon]

I'm actually getting really afraid of fighting Bowser now lol

But man those Lucas grab buffs, I hope those are accurate because goddamn that's huge.

 

[Ffamran]

In other unrelated angry Ffamran news: Dammit, @elusiveTranscendent! I can't stop listening to Battle Against a True Hero! And you extended it too!

Edit: Also, Falco already had a losing MU against Bowser and DK. More setups he probably won't be able to escape or die hella early is just more salt in the wound.

 

[Lil Puddin]

Videos of the day...?

Spoiler: Shulk got some buffs so OK

Spoiler: Reactions to the current patch data

I'll take whatever I can, it's not like Greninja needed buffs in the first place.

Greninja stole Zelder's buffs! Rude.

Also, Lucas did not need any buffs. :T

 

[Antonykun]

Videos of the day...?

"This is the @Macchiato 's power"
*Villager Pockets Shulk and the @Macchiato*
brb ded

 

[Cress!]

Was anybody nerfed? Because it looks like everything is a buff.

 

[Kofu]

It's okay guys, my main probably didn't get any buffs either. Unless they decided to cut his landing lag but I doubt it. I should make a list of tweaks that should be made/I would like for his moves, it's pretty long sadly.

Link getting damage buffs made me roll my eyes, it's really not what he needed. But it'll make fighting him even more annoying.

 

[Furret]

Lucina

say it with me
"Marth"

I'm ready for Bowsers to instill the fear of God in me with uthrow>uair

UThrow -> 20% Nair

 

[EODM07]

say it with me
"Marth"

Shulk.

 

[Daidarapochi]

Was anybody nerfed? Because it looks like everything is a buff.

Lucario's Aura Sphere kills slightly later and has less hitlag.

 

[Furret]

Shulk.

Lucario's Aura Sphere kills slightly later and has less hitlag.

speculation is those are the looping hits to get rid of the 'shield lock'

 

[Lavani]

UThrow -> 20% Nair

Yeah this'll be terrifying too if it works.

At low percents that uthrow'll have nothing for kb so it probably will

Lucario's Aura Sphere kills slightly later and has less hitlag.

speculation is those are the looping hits to get rid of the 'shield lock'

It's definitely the charging hits that were affected, the charging hits launched 80° while the actual projectile uses either the Sakurai angle or 47° depending on charge level.

The charge getting a steeper angle and less KB also means it'll be harder to DI out of followups on hit though, so it was nerfed against shields but buffed for combos.

 

[EODM07]

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To make up for it...

Spoiler: Have a Furret.

speculation is those are the looping hits to get rid of the 'shield lock'

If that's the case, then their best Shield Punish game will be removed. Which will be pretty good. Won't have to deal with that rubbish again.

 

[Furret]

To make up for it...

Spoiler: Have a Furret.

already have it
try harder

Yeah this'll be terrifying too if it works.

At low percents that uthrow'll have nothing for kb so it probably will

forgot the first frame of bowser's nair.. was it like frame 8?

 

[Lavani]

forgot the first frame of bowser's nair.. was it like frame 8?

8, yeah. 9 for uair.

 

[Koiba]

Omg electroshock buffs

Yay


Now electroshock might not be tr4sh and might be more viable then Zelda

 

[ぱみゅ]

I should be working right now.
But I rather wait for the video and work in a hurry through the evening/night.

 

[McKnightlíght]

Anyone want to play Sm4sh after the direct?

 

[EODM07]

Anyone want to play Sm4sh after the direct?

I'm down for a few. If I can get through the traffic and get Cloud.

 

[McKnightlíght]

Is the update immediately after?

 

[Lil Puddin]

"This is the @Macchiato 's power"
*Villager Pockets Shulk and the @Macchiato*
brb ded

WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?!

Also, Macchianton pairing confirmed. When's the unholy wedding?