Wind Waker Link's moves

[Jazzy Jinx]

I wouldn't recomend it. It will probabbly get closed. This thread shouldn't have the word MOVES in it because WW Link has not been confirmed.

Edit: I'm logging off now anyway.

 

[IKillCauseOfVGs]

Can't a guy dream? And I still think we should at least not take up like three pages worth of arguing.

Edit: Let's get back to WW Link's hypothetical move set then.

 

[DarkKnight077]

Time to put the dagger in the WW. Anyways people have trouble to like the WW game it self. Someone like the game and some did not. So bascially you have a draw more or less right in the middle that's why WW will not get in. Half of the Zelda fans were betrayed because it was not what they expected and...some did not care it's really up to the fan base.. Most of all Zelda fans Support Y. Link but..when it comes to WW Link it's half and half.

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

Here's the problem: Those who oppose Celda are comparing Link to Samus, LoZ to Metroid.
Here's the thing: THEY'RE NOT COMPARABLE!!!!!

Legend of Zelda game series is much more related to Fire Emblem. It's just harder to recognize since Link is always a guy in a green tunic named Link whereas there are actual different people in Fire Emblem: Marth and Roy. By now, everyone knows that Marth and Roy are nowhere related. They have never meet, aren't meeting, and never will meet. They are in entirely different storyline universes; just the same game series. You people can accept that...

So why can't you accept the same for Legend of Zelda???

In the beginning of Wind Waker, they even explain that WW Link is LITERALLY NOT THE SAME PERSON as OoT Link or Young Link. WW Link and Young Link/Link are as closely related to each other as Marth is to Roy.

Now, that is one main reason why people are saying that Celda should be in Brawl. He constitutes a different character. And with his entirely different attitude and plethora of moves to make a unique moveset just supports that statement even more.

 

[GenG]

Time to put the dagger in the WW. Anyways people have trouble to like the WW game it self. Someone like the game and some did not. So bascially you have a draw more or less right in the middle that's why WW will not get in. Half of the Zelda fans were betrayed because it was not what they expected and...some did not care it's really up to the fan base.. Most of all Zelda fans Support Y. Link but..when it comes to WW Link it's half and half.

Young Link it's Ocarina of Time child Link, as well Majora's Mask. Now, speaking about "fans", Cellda keeps being featured in games (like Phantom Hourglass for DS), and that's because he now represents a huge part of the Zelda franchise and people liked him.

Y. Link is the boring one here. A shrunk Link. WW Link goes further than that. I just can't assimilate why people want mini Link so much while dropping so much hate on WW.

And as I said, a lot of people wants Link WW. Go asking a friend who had played WW and it'll say yes to him in Brawl. Even people who aren't fond of Smash Bros. And in the poll he appeared three times, each guy commenting on the points we brought to defend him.

Smash-wise he has VERY high chances, the "remove Y Link and put Cellda" issue has been discussed over and over since 2003 and I'm very sure that Sakurai knows this already. For me, it's the most obvious Zelda newcomer.

 

[BIRDMAN22]

Here's a question to all the ww link fans. Since you say he deserves a spot because he is a seperate person completely who do you feel about yoshi? I made this point in a another thread but in the end of super mario world many different colored yoshis (red, blue, gree, and yellow) all hatched out of the eggs you collected from each area. Since this makes it obvious that there is more than one do you feel that it would be justified adding a blue yoshi (Boshi)? This isn't a question of number of games either. My question is simple, would you support this idea along with.......baby mario, boo and king boo, multiple koopa troopas, every koopa kid, and so on?

P.S. With all the cell-shaded link support I don't see much support for cell-shaded zelda.

 

[GenG]

I think Link WW uniqueness, along many other factors already stated like the need to rep his (now part of Nintendo) side of the franchise, is enough for me to support him. I don't feel the same for other alternate characters like Fludd Mario or Paper Mario.

Boshi is a Yoshi with sunglasses. Not diferent at all. Not unique, and from a third party game (Mario RPG) which makes that even harder for him.

Troopas, Boos and Goombas shouldn't be playable. The babies can't do much, even tag-teamed. They "could" appear under the Yoshi franchise, but I just don't have intereset on them.

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

I was never a big fan of the Yoshi titles, but Boshi and the others haven't evolved enough into their own individual self like Wario [originally just an Anti-Mario, now with 2 series] and WW Link [see: this thread].

 

[BIRDMAN22]

Ok, my previous post was a concept arguement. I personally don't think any of those characters should be in brawl, which is the same way I feel about ww link. My point was that just because they make a different version of a character doesn't mean that character needs both original ad revamped representation. If they were deciding to put only one link in the game, I wouldn't care which one it was. It could have been ww, tp, oot, or whatever. Since they have already confirmed one (Tp) I, and others, don't feel that they need more. Just as they don't need multiple ganons, zeldas, marios, yoshis, etc. etc.

 

[EnFerris]

The main reason I want both Links in is that THoT Link will represent the action [art of the Zelda franchise, and THoW Link will represent more the Puzzle element. Also, while I'm all for getting rid of clones and various versions of characters (I want all sword-wielding Male Fire Emblem Lords as various costumes of one character) I make an exception for WW Link because 1. He is an entirely separate character. 2. He has a unique Graphical style. 3. He can easily have a unique and interesting moveset. 4. They aren't even both Link unless you name them both. So THoW could very well be Josh. 5. They are in fact as separate as Marth and Roy. 6. As I mentioned, Action vs. Puzzle.

Could we get back to discussing movesets, though? I bet you could find a THoW in or out pretty easily by searching.

Check out some possible VBs:
Gust Jar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_The_Minish_Cap_weapons_and_items#Gust_Jar

Works similar to a cross between Kirby's suck and Barrel Cannon.

Skull Hammer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_The_Minish_Cap_weapons_and_items#Hammer
http://zelda.neoseeker.com/images/uploads/skull_hammer_mini.png

I can' see this working in any way other than like DK's headbutt. it comes up a lot, but I don't think it would be to fun to use. Badass, but not a great move.

Hyoi Pear
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_The_Minish_Cap_weapons_and_items#Hyoi_Pear
Quite a stretch, but WW Link would stand still and you'd be abl;e to control a seagull with unlimited jumps that does some damage and is hard to hit.

My favorite right now is Gust Jar, so that three moves utilize wind, and there is one sword move to connect him to THoT Link. But it's nice to have options.

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

Well, the Gust Jar, to differentiate it from Kirby's Suck, is that maybe the jar stands up and aims at the sky. It would suck people in mid-air into the jar, then possibly shoot them down in a spike-like fashion.

Aim Up: Differentiate from the Suck. All people near it, even those short hopping, if their feet are off the ground, they can be sucked in. People on the ground are safe.
Shoot Down: Kirby's Suck, if you shoot them out, it doesn't do much damage and they have not much recoil. To be more of a combat maneuver [which Suck is not intended really], giving it a spike effect will:
1) put things more in WW Link's favor;
2) Do more damage from more force that shooting you out with impact on ground [and/or whatever damage goes along with spikes] and recoil that goes along with it.

Put more idea's up later. VIVE LA WW LINK!

 

[BIRDMAN22]

The main reason I want both Links in is that THoT Link will represent the action [art of the Zelda franchise, and THoW Link will represent more the Puzzle element. Also, while I'm all for getting rid of clones and various versions of characters (I want all sword-wielding Male Fire Emblem Lords as various costumes of one character) I make an exception for WW Link because 1. He is an entirely separate character. 2. He has a unique Graphical style. 3. He can easily have a unique and interesting moveset. 4. They aren't even both Link unless you name them both. So THoW could very well be Josh. 5. They are in fact as separate as Marth and Roy. 6. As I mentioned, Action vs. Puzzle.

You say all FE lords should be costumes but ww link should be a seperate character. You then go on to give reason that ww link should be a seperate character even though all those same reasons (except 5 and maybe 6) could be used for the FE lords. 1. They are entirely seperate, 2. They have their own unique looks, they may not be cell shaded but who cares, 3. They can all easily have unique movesets. Anyone can have a unique moveset if the developers put the time into it. 4. All of them have different names.

The fact is most want ww link because they like him as opposed to him being deserving and your post shows that. Obviously you don't feel that FE deserves more than one original character yet Loz needs to have two (or more) versions of the same hero.

My standpoint is still the same, as well as others, and that is that all characters need to be represented once. Every reincarnation (which is what ww link is) or revamped design of a character doesn't need to be included.

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

If WW Link makes it in, what symbol will he have? The triforce just like the rest of the LoZ characters. When Nintendo made this game, it was intended to try a different art style just like Paper Mario since that game worked out so well. They are not seperate. It is still Link. The same can be said about Paper Mario because they call him PAPER Mario therefore he is different than regular Mario. Icarnations of his character were also created like Baby Mario who is completely different personality wise and moveset wise in Yoshi's Island were he transforms into Super Mario. Just admit you want him because you like him not becasue he is different and deserves to be in and I will support you.

 

[Eaode]

About the personality argument, it just makes no sense. He has a different personality so he should be in??


And Link in Brawl is Not Just Repping Twilight Princess!!!!! He is repping his franchise. Just because a couple of games in that franchise have a different mood than the one where his visual model comes from doesn't mean you have to have another version of tha character to represent "those games" Link is Repping tLoZ franchise. So what you're saying is that once they make a game that is different than the majority of the others in the franchise, that it becomes another franchise itself??? WW, MC, FS, and FSA are all still ZELDA games, they have not split from the Zelda franchise just because they "Feel" different. Link represents ALL Zelda games, they just chose that graphical style because it is the most recent (and undeniably cooler).



And that argument about the FE lords was really, REALLY stupid. The FE lords actually ARE different people, and they all look different as well.



Again, just because the games feel different and play different does not make them a new franchise. They are Zelda games, not Celda games.

 

[Dr.Feelgood]

You know what i think...i think that we should just drop it.. and WAIT and see who they put in Brawl..cuz we dont know what they are gonna put in brawl unless someone here works for the company.. its pointless to argue about these things..and who cares if people want 5links.. just let people think what they want to think about things even if to you it sounds stupid.

 

[Eaode]

Well, the Brawl room is all about speculation, anticipation, and argument. If we all went by the "Wait and see" philosophy, this room would be nonexistant.


Although that is the best solution, it is not going to happen.

 

[GenG]

About the personality argument, it just makes no sense. He has a different personality so he should be in??

It's not only his personality. We've discussing a lot of points:

- He is from one of the "great" franchises. Well, that's a point, because it makes him more known and requested.

- That leads to the point 2. Actually there is a lot of interest to see how Link could fight, not only to rep the rest of Zelda games (I'll take this on the next point). A high fanbase due to starring a full fledged mainstream title who broke the franchise in two, and that's an undeniable fact.

- Link TP isn't repping all the franchise, because there is a part he can't rep. Wind Waker had the same importance as Ocarina of Time as a mainstream Zelda game, and Brawl is most likely to rep all games during this 5 year void (2002-2007), being Wind Waker one of the most important Nintendo games on Gamecube to date. But that's not all. Wind Waker's style was carried over to many titles being UNALTERED (and this is very important), to comercialise Link's funny side. 5 games aren't "a couple" games, that's almost a third of the franchise, unless you count more colourful titles like A Link to the Past and the Oracles as "young Link" titles, that would increase his number.

- Paper Mario games were spin offs titles, side stories, like sport games. But Wind Waker and other Zeldas are part of the franchise and have stablished themselves a whole new Zelda concept, which were dark during 1998 to 2002 (Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask). But I remember past Zeldas as more "funnies" games too, focusing on Link expressions and movements, not about being badass. Those are the two faces of the franchise.

- Someone said that all Links are the same. Well, this is not true. From Aonuma's words: "The Zelda games features different Links born in different eras". Twilight Princess Link and Wind Waker Link aren't the same person, as there is a gap of many hundred years between two titles (TP is the WW prequel). While all different Marios (Baby, adult, doctor) are the same person. Baby Mario met adult Mario in Partners in Time, and they worked together. Many other characters met with his old/future counterparts, so they are the same person. Doesn't apply to the Zelda franchise. Actually, the only Links known are:
· Zelda (NES) and Adventure of Link (NES)
· A Link to the Past (SNES) and Link's Awakening (GB)
· Ocarina of Time (N64) and Majora's Mask (N64)
· Oracle of Ages and Seasons (GBC)
· Wind Waker (GC) and Phantom Hourglass (DS) > This is official, PH takes place after WW.
· The Minish Cap (GBA)
· Four Sword (GBA) and Four Sword Adventures (GC)

- Talking about the same Links, someone also said that they couldn't put a WW Link with Minish Cap and Four Sword moves because it will make an incoherence since they are not the same person. Well, Smash Bros, as we know, isn't about coherence. We have an adult Link with a boomerang. We have a Young Link holding (read carefully!) a KOKIRI sword, a DEKU shield and the FIRE ARROWS, with a BOW. In which game could you get a hold of all these items at once? You NEVER could, in Majora's he can get a bow with fire arrows BUT he doesn't have the deku shield and kokiri sword. Marth can't use the Falchion without the Fire Emblem shield. Mewtwo doesn't learn Shadowball naturally. Zelda using the spells that Link got in OOT? DUH, SUUPER SMAAAAAASH BROTHEEEERS!!!!

- Moves. Wind Waker link have a grasp of a very unpolished and goofy sword play, with unique items from his games that the adult one could never use without harming his... well, his mood. There are cool characters and goofy characters. TP Link is cool, WW Link is goofy. Other than SHARING THE SAME NAME and being on the same franchise, these two guys don't are the same Smash-wise.

This issue, as well many other interesting points that I've seen scattered on the thread pretty sums all why he should be considered.

 

[Eaode]

You just contradicted yourself.

You say that smash isn't coherent, so Y. link using the bow and the fire arrows and everything doesn't matter, because it's not a specific incarnation like "Majora's Mask Link", But then why should Wind Waker and the like be specifically incarnated in smash?? Link Reps link, period. He doesn't rep TP, he reps the Zelda franchise. The Zelda franchise is not split in two. Just because those games take a different mood than some of the other games, does not make it "split" or "seperate" the franchise. They are still in the same franchise. Developers will not limit themselves to certain standards such as mood, when making a new installment in the franchise. And saying that it's a different franchise because of different mood ignorant.


Mario and Luigi: Partners in time is not the ususal Mario game, but it is still part of the franchise. Does it split it in two?

 

[xianfeng]

Well here are my moves

- His neutral B is the Flame Lantern from The minish Cap, this expels a ball of fire from his lantern and can also make him imune from Togepi's invisble move thing, it creates a circle around him so he can see where he is!

- His up B would be the Deku Leaf in air it works like an umbrella but on the ground it sends a powerful shot of wind.

- His front B is the Skull Hammer, this is his most powerful move that can do up to 15% damage, but it has a bit of lag.

- His down B would remain his bombs, nothing would change apart from the art style.

- His Wind Waker would be his super he would play Ballad of the gales and teleport to one character and then play the winds requim to blow them off the stage he would do this until all of his opponent have been blown away.

- and to further differntiate himself from Adult Link opposed to using the Hookshot for Grabs he would use the Grappling hook yay!

 

[IKillCauseOfVGs]

First I just wanna comment on something someone said earlier. A fitting symbol for WW Link would be an outline of the boat, the King Of Red Lions.

Second, we never said Celda was another franchise. We said that he's half of the entire Link franchise, the lighter more child friendly, rated E side. TP Link is the darker, more serious rated T for teens side. Yin and yang. Two sides to the same thing. If you took the heads side off a quarter it wouldn't be a quarter, without the light side to balance out the dark side, Legend of Zelda wouldn't be as great as it is. A balance of combat (TP link being the embodiment of this) and puzzle solving (Celda being the embodiment) is what draws so many people to the series.

And I don't see how he contradicted himself. Young Link NEVER has the Kokiri sword, deku shield and a bow and arrow at the same time. They weren't looking for accuracy when they made the game, they wanted to design something that could please the fans. I don't see how having another character is going to hurt you non Celda users. What do you care if there's another Link? His being in brawl in no way affects you're character, except you have one more enemy to fight.

And Xian. I like the effort you put in, but his super move is way overpowered. A move that instanly kills everyone else is too much. A for effort though. And we're trying to change Link, keeping any moves from his young link form would totally screw up the point of WW Link. He's gotta be different, way different. I like everything else though.

 

[GenG]

Smash has a lot of contradictions, but it's part of the game. They simply don't want full and exhaustive "fanboy" coherence.

Developers won't take in consideration things like mood or personality, but if you ar truly a Smash developer, you'll see that WW Link have a lot of potential as a character, they want to make a game while having fun, and WW Link is a blast of a character. WW Link can do things that TP Link can't, as I said.

Mario & Luigi games, like the RPG Mario titles, are part of the franchise, but not mainstream titles like Mario 64, Mario Sunshine or Mario Galaxy. Zelda Wind Waker is a mainstream title, and it's going to have representation in Brawl somehow (a stage for example). But they could struggle for WW Link, why not. He mets all the points. He isn't Link, he is WW Link. It's a different character, and can't be repped by the Link in the trailer. Link WW isn't an obscure character, did a high contribution to the Zelda franchise unlike many supporter characters in Melee, but yet they struggle to put them it to make fans happy even when they haven't done much or anything in his game.

Well, if he were the top requested character worlwide, should he make in it then? In your opinion, he wouldn't, because it's the same Link, repped by the actual Link, which is repping the whole series. Well, I doubt that TP Link could rep this side of the Zelda franchise, a MAINSTREAM one, which is being commercialized parallelly and in its own. And that's worth a rep.

 

[Eaode]

How are the Mario and Luigi games not mainstream?

And why can't the current link in Brawl rep the Zelda franchise in a general manner? Because some of those games feel different than Twilight princess. All the posts you make boil down to that. "Those games aren't an exact clone of the other game, so we need another link to rep the different mood". And the reason I don't want WW link in Brawl is because he could be taking a spot away from someone more deserving, someone who is his own person (like Vaati for example).


I don't see why Vaati can't be the rep for the "Celda" games, instead of having another link. He is a recurring villain in those games (Excluding Wind Waker), and he also has Wind moves.

 

[Eaode]

EDIT: wtf, double post.....

 

[xianfeng]

I changed the B move so it is less similar to melee link and I am looking for another move for the down B

 

[The Basement Dweller]

If Young Link returns he will have no shot anyway, so why bother. Also the TP LInk is enough they should remoove the other forms of Link and not add new ones. If they do Wolf Link would be interesting, but I vote for just one Link. One Link is enoughfor anyone except you stupid Legend of Zelda fanboys. Don't get me wrong I like Legend of Zelda as a series, but it has three already four if you count Y. Link and Five if you count Sheik. Sheik and Zelda should be split if Sheik is back so they would have four if that happens that is enough from one series. Ax Doc and Mario only has four. Yoshi represents his own franchise because he has a different logo.

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

How are the Mario and Luigi games not mainstream?

And why can't the current link in Brawl rep the Zelda franchise in a general manner? Because some of those games feel different than Twilight princess. All the posts you make boil down to that. "Those games aren't an exact clone of the other game, so we need another link to rep the different mood". And the reason I don't want WW link in Brawl is because he could be taking a spot away from someone more deserving, someone who is his own person (like Vaati for example).


I don't see why Vaati can't be the rep for the "Celda" games, instead of having another link. He is a recurring villain in those games (Excluding Wind Waker), and he also has Wind moves.

Why can't you people just listen to this guy? Plus, Paper Mario has become its own franchise. Although it is still young I can see it is going to countinue. They are making Super Paper Mario and I'm sure they are not going to stop at that. Paper Mario can't be counted as regular Mario because they look different, use different moves, fight differently, and are viewed differently. If this isn't convincing than I ask you once more about Wario. He DOES have two different forms of style in that one is ADVENTURE and another is WIERDNESS. Ware and adventure Wario games ARE two seperate franchises. But they both don't need to be repped. Also, Ware Wario has moves that regular Wario can't do like coughWarioMancough.

 

[GenG]

How are the Mario and Luigi games not mainstream?

Mainstream Mario games are those which will be canon for a long time. Take, for example, Mario Sunshine.

Wether you liked Mario Sunshine or not is irrelevant, but in sport, kart, party games, you'll see a lot of characters and places featured in Sunshine, as the mainstream title it was. Wind Waker was a mainstream title, have the complete monopoly of the handhelds and it's now the handheld Zelda mascot.

And why can't the current link in Brawl rep the Zelda franchise in a general manner? Because some of those games feel different than Twilight princess. All the posts you make boil down to that. "Those games aren't an exact clone of the other game, so we need another link to rep the different mood". And the reason I don't want WW link in Brawl is because he could be taking a spot away from someone more deserving, someone who is his own person (like Vaati for example). I don't see why Vaati can't be the rep for the "Celda" games, instead of having another link. He is a recurring villain in those games (Excluding Wind Waker), and he also has Wind moves.

For me, representing isn't simply as putting a Link and let it be. People claim that characters that Vaati (not you of course, other people) and Ralph are more original, but it's not. Vaati is a wizard, but there are many wizards among Nintendo. There are many stabbers among Nintendo other than Ralph. But, what I want from Link WW is the character himself. The representation is a bridge to have him in, because it's the only popular goofy swordman among Nintendo characters, with a lot of interesting gimmicks and a more interesting graphic style which would add more diversity to the cast. I like Vaati, but he isn't that necesary right now. WW Link would represent his games and his world very well, as I can picture the Celldas without Vaati, but NOT without Link. Do you get the idea? Vaati could be replaced by another baddie, but you can't touch Link. That's how most of the franchise representation works in Brawl.

And the deserving spots... Well, each person has his own favourites. Link WW deserves his spot, as Geno, Little Mac, Ridley, Ike, Sigurd, Krystal and many others. It's not my top character, but I love Zelda games and I'll love to have one of my favourite franchises getting "complete" in Brawl. Because, other than WW Link, you don't have many obvious choices in the Zelda franchise.

Just a rumor, I've heard from "trusty" sources that Vaati could make an appareance in Twilight Princess , as well many places from OOT and WW.

 

[burrito]

I completely support cel shaded Link for brawl. In fact, I kind of expect him.

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

Mainstream Mario games are those which will be canon for a long time. Take, for example, Mario Sunshine.

Wether you liked Mario Sunshine or not is irrelevant, but in sport, kart, party games, you'll see a lot of characters and places featured in Sunshine, as the mainstream title it was. Wind Waker was a mainstream title, have the complete monopoly of the handhelds and it's now the handheld Zelda mascot.



For me, representing isn't simply as putting a Link and let it be. People claim that characters that Vaati (not you of course, other people) and Ralph are more original, but it's not. Vaati is a wizard, but there are many wizards among Nintendo. There are many stabbers among Nintendo other than Ralph. But, what I want from Link WW is the character himself. The representation is a bridge to have him in, because it's the only popular goofy swordman among Nintendo characters, with a lot of interesting gimmicks and a more interesting graphic style which would add more diversity to the cast. I like Vaati, but he isn't that necesary right now. WW Link would represent his games and his world very well, as I can picture the Celldas without Vaati, but NOT without Link. Do you get the idea? Vaati could be replaced by another baddie, but you can't touch Link. That's how most of the franchise representation works in Brawl.

And the deserving spots... Well, each person has his own favourites. Link WW deserves his spot, as Geno, Little Mac, Ridley, Ike, Sigurd, Krystal and many others. It's not my top character, but I love Zelda games and I'll love to have one of my favourite franchises getting "complete" in Brawl. Because, other than WW Link, you don't have many obvious choices in the Zelda franchise.

Just a rumor, I've heard from "trusty" sources that Vaati could make an appareance in Twilight Princess , as well many places from OOT and WW.

So now I've finally got it out of you! Finally! You like WW Link and don't care about representation because you are against Vaati! And since when can a character not be original? Oh, and WW Link is the only goofy swordsman? Please. If you want the franchise to be complete than add Vaati, give him an original moveset, and leave it at that. And if the WW Link is his own character than can't he have someone with a different name but same look and appearence take his place? Call him a different character. Oh wait, Link is the main character and isn't a different Link that is why Nintendo didn't change the name.

 

[GenG]

I'm not against Vaati. I just don't find anything interesting on him. Ganondorf is a legend among gamers, and Vaati hasn't done that much in the franchise to deserve a spot. Vaati doesn't complete the franchise, not now, maybe for the next Smash.

And I like WW Link of course. I don't care about representation, I can't play with a representation, nor enjoy it at all. I brought the representation thing, which is true at all, to prove his deserving spot in Brawl.

You disapprove him because you don't want the same character repped twice, but the truth is that he won't be a clone! Not at all! Just shares the Link name, but... he is unique. Goofy swordman!

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

So if he makes the roster, they are going to call him WW Link? Oh yeah, I see that. Say he will be called Young Link. Oh wait, that would make him a younger VERSION of Link. So answer that question real quick, I want to see what you have to back your argument up.

 

[HiddenTiger]

So if he makes the roster, they are going to call him WW Link? Oh yeah, I see that. Say he will be called Young Link. Oh wait, that would make him a younger VERSION of Link. So answer that question real quick, I want to see what you have to back your argument up.

Okay then. Try this on for size. Making Young Link into the Hero of Winds would in fact make him a different person than Link. Wind Waker takes place hundreds (is it hundreds or just one hundred?) of years after OoT, or more fittingly, Twilight Princess. Therefore, they couldn't be the same person because WW Link would have to be hundreds(?) of years old, yet he's quite clearly a 'Young Link'. He could just be called Young Link to both preserve the character and to differentiate him from Link in terms of namesake.

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

Okay then. Try this on for size. Making Young Link into the Hero of Winds would in fact make him a different person than Link. Wind Waker takes place hundreds (is it hundreds or just one hundred?) of years after OoT, or more fittingly, Twilight Princess. Therefore, they couldn't be the same person because WW Link would have to be hundreds(?) of years old, yet he's quite clearly a 'Young Link'. He could just be called Young Link to both preserve the character and to differentiate him from Link in terms of namesake.

Now you are starting to make crap up. Do you have proof that they called him Young Link because they wanted to seperate them by person or age?

 

[Eaode]

I know he won't be a clone. Paper Mario wouldn't be a clone, FLUDD Mario wouldn't be a clone. Morph ball and Echoes Samus wouldn't be clones.

Vaati hasn't done that much in the franchise to deserve a spot.

Vaati has done more than WW link. Well, maybe link has done something to deserve a spot, but he has already used it.

Vaati is a wizard, but there are many wizards among Nintendo.

And WW link is link. Wow, that's even more of a simularity!

I like Vaati, but he isn't that necesary right now.

......And two links are?

WW Link would represent his games and his world very well, as I can picture the Celldas without Vaati, but NOT without Link.

Vaati would represent them well, because he is the Recurring Villain. Link represents them better, but he's already in the game

It's not my top character, but I love Zelda games and I'll love to have one of my favourite franchises getting "complete" in Brawl.

How would another link make it more complete while leaving out an important villain?

you don't have many obvious choices in the Zelda franchise.

*coughVaatiCough*
*CoughSkullKidWithMajora'sMaskCough*



My point is that Important characters should get rep before different versions of the same character because the game is different. Truth is, If the important characters get rep in Brawl *CoughSignatureCough*, then I wouldn't Mind "Celda" Link much. But alot of other characters deserve Priority over him. And if Vaati is in Twilight Princess, that raises his chances even further.


I apologize for the Quote-and-response format, but it was the easiest way for me to remember all of the points I wanted to get across.

 

[GenG]

So if he makes the roster, they are going to call him WW Link? Oh yeah, I see that. Say he will be called Young Link. Oh wait, that would make him a younger VERSION of Link. So answer that question real quick, I want to see what you have to back your argument up.

They can name him "Young Link", because he is still young. Maybe "Toon Link" or "Cell Shaded Link", pretty descriptive. I thought about "The Hero of Winds" or "Wind Waker Link", which is good but that limites him to Wind Waker only, the same for "Picori Hero" and that. He needs a more general description, while keeping the word "Link", because he is a Link after all. In the japanese poll they named him "Wind Waker Link" or "The Link from Wind Waker".

There is no such thing as a "Zero Suit Samus", nor a "Young Link", in any Nintendo game. These are self descriptive names chosen solely for these characters in Smash, so I believe they can make up a good "title" for him.

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

Look at post 109 carefully. Also, why do they look so much alike? Both blonde, both green tunics, both same weapons, both same ZELDAS. Also Zero Suit Samus was to distinguish between two FORMS of Samus which is the same thing they did with Link.

 

[Eaode]

Uncle Kenny, I think you're being a bit too agressive in your argument.....

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

I am just trying to get a point across but nobody seems to be paying close enough attention to what I am saying. But it is true that I am getting a little pissed. But this isn't justifying anything. I apologize to those who find me offensive.

 

[GenG]

Yeah, now that I look both characters, I can see some resemblance, both playing the same role in the same series and that... Could it be a coincidence? But hey!

Now what?

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

This argument is never going to end but I have to +rep you for that last post GenG. It was funny and relieved me of some stress.