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All of the NJ tournaments are too far for me Other than inui's tournies.
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It's like that here in NY too. Peeps just can't let go... But their reasoning is that the real money is to be made in vbrawl right now (both in terms of hosting and winning tournaments), so I can't really blame them.Inui isn't hosting anymore and NJ sucks because they can't let go of their crappy vBrawl.
roffle I love this response. When a space animal uses his shine, he lags while reflecting the projectile. So in essence, mindlessly holding shine is detrimental, especially vs a fox who can approach so fast with lasers. If anything, fox would WANT wolf to shine his lasers so he can close in and get a free combo.Well, consider that both are packing reflectors, it's pretty hard for fox/wolf to outcamp one another. Actually, if fox gets his laser reflected, it'll come back all the way, but with wolf, his projectile usually falls short of himself when reflected, so he won't even have to worry about dodging them.
I'd argue that fox's lasers are about the most pointless projectile to try to reflect. The shine lag is abusable, and it's all for... what? An extra 2%? I'd rather just shield them or even take the hit (if close) than shine. Unlike other projectiles, fox's lasers offer no stun on hit, so it's not even like you can really gain any significant advantage from a successful reflection.You can easily drop the reflector if you see he's shdl-ing and coming at you. Might even be able to punish a rushed approach.
Fox is great at camping lol...a defensive fox would get destroyed by wolf. fox is bad at camping, his strength is his combos and speed.
You can JC shines? Like melee speed? :oYou say that he lags while reflecting the projectile, but he could simply cancel the animation by jumping or dodging, which is pretty fast.
edit: sure the damage of the reflected lasers isn't much, but cancelling the shine might catch the opponent off guard.
Your right both suck equally as much. And I also agree that Fox punishes wolf harder offstage.Well they both equally suck. Fox can punish wolf alot harder than wolf can punish fox though. I mained wolf in vbrawl and I use him in brawl+ so I know all about his recovery and timing the side b as well. It's not difficult to read/punish. Same for fox, but like i said, fox punishes wolf harder.
Yes, but only while deflecting a projectile. See example here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8uw5-b7e0sYou can JC shines? Like melee speed? :o
You misunderstand. I mean predicting recovery to the stage. If wolf goes for the ledge it's simple edgehog, just like fox. However, wolf will usually scar the stage or land on the stage predictably.Your right both suck equally as much. And I also agree that Fox punishes wolf harder offstage.
I disagree though on the easiness of punishment. I think fox is slighty easier to bair fox than shine spike wolf.. (Not by much though. And maybe I should take into account I am a better player than my friend. Though, I feel like I should know something about dealing with bad recoveries and gimping them as a guy who has mained link since 64)
If they just grab then...Jump?Yes, but only while deflecting a projectile. See example here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8uw5-b7e0s
Ness, Lucas, Fox and Wolf can all use this tech, perhaps Pit too
Shrug.Yes, but only while deflecting a projectile. See example here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8uw5-b7e0s
Ness, Lucas, Fox and Wolf can all use this tech, perhaps Pit too
Cause Fox and Falco can camp everyone who isn't incredibly fast by just spamming lasers and then using the side-b to dash through. It will nerf recovery for sure, but that isn't the main point. Try and catch them with Ganondorf, Bowser, or the other heavies. Even Luigi has trouble with them. Bring it up in the backroom if you have a problem or whenever we can get that nightly out.That's a stupid idea wtf....Why are you doing that? I'm completely against it. Their recoveries already suck balls, why are you nerfing them even more?