pichuthedk
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Not really sure about that behind her one.
my rage and their % is always random when ever I land one of those and I am to busy worry about me missing the free boost kick to bother checking out the launch time xD.
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my rage and their % is always random when ever I land one of those and I am to busy worry about me missing the free boost kick to bother checking out the launch time xD.
Tobi_Whatever
あんたバカァ～！？
Charge time doesn't matter?
i can confirm people have rolled behind me into getting dsmashed, it's like up to her back heel.
pichuthedk
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You can Visually see the hitbox IIRC to lazy atm to go into training.
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Tobi_Whatever
Yeah I was thinking of the same thing but maybe it's just a placebo effect for us?
So on the weekend at the UGC niagara tourney I managed to take a game off Ally's Fraudio and MM Nairo in the Ditto ( pretty sure 3-0 with me taking at least 3 stocks ).
When I get a chance I will post the link for the set in the video archive I would like some help on the Fraudio MU....Mario just *sigh*.
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Tobi_Whatever
Yeah I was thinking of the same thing but maybe it's just a placebo effect for us?So on the weekend at the UGC niagara tourney I managed to take a game off Ally's Fraudio and MM Nairo in the Ditto ( pretty sure 3-0 with me taking at least 3 stocks ).
When I get a chance I will post the link for the set in the video archive I would like some help on the Fraudio MU....Mario just *sigh*.
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Icemanx5746
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if Mario does dthrow > utilt at zero we can jab or utilt him before he can get another utilt out, since we land on the ground, after that, you can down b out of his utilt strings with good timing, eventually good Marios will just start doing dthrow > up b, which isn't nearly as bad. So that's how to deal with his main niche (though you may have already known that). There's a pretty good Mario in my region that I play a decent amount so maybe I could put together a more detailed analysis about the matchup in general and post it in the MU thread if it would be of any help to anyone.
David Viran
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I would like to take a moment and talk about zss's ledge trump game. If you ledge trump with tether you get a significant frame advantage over anything your opponent does from the ledge.
NickRiddle
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You can actually get trump > flipstool.
Unsure about the kick though.
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I could see the footstool being good if bair won't kill because it forces them to regrab the ledge without invincibility.
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Are you sure?
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I'm pretty sure if you trump them it doesn't reset the invincibility.
NickRiddle
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If you hit them it 100% refreshes their invulnerability.
BreaD-
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nick was talking about the flip jump footstool
Icemanx5746
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Would they not be able to buffer a roll from the ledge like they normally are when being trumped?
^ Probably, but it somehow never works out like that.
And at the very least you're still able to react with a ledge drop or other ledge action faster than they would be able to.
And at the very least you're still able to react with a ledge drop or other ledge action faster than they would be able to.
Tobi_Whatever
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Tobi_Whatever
あんたバカァ～！？
I'm currently playing through hypernepnep re;birth 1 and I'm having a good time. It took some time adjust to the kawaiiii uguuu dialogue but it was worth it.
I should play the games too, I've heard a few of them are quite fun.
But I did enjoy the anime for it's terribleness aaaaaaaaa lot.
But I did enjoy the anime for it's terribleness aaaaaaaaa lot.
Tobi_Whatever
あんたバカァ～！？
It's quite repetitive but the combat system is solid. If you're okay with grinding I can recommend it. The anime is next on my list and I'm thinking about buying a vita for the new game.
pichuthedk
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Well actually Nairo showed me some technology regarding the edge trump.
basically get the trump-> get on stage as close as to the edge as possible -> just dair in place for the stage spike when they re up b.
Obviously won't work for everyone but yeah I'm a check it out a bit. I generally just do the bair but this sounds like fun XD.
basically get the trump-> get on stage as close as to the edge as possible -> just dair in place for the stage spike when they re up b.
Obviously won't work for everyone but yeah I'm a check it out a bit. I generally just do the bair but this sounds like fun XD.
Did you practice me explaining the same thing just with flip jump kick instead? 
(Well, I said from just a ledge drop)
Nairo definitely makes me want to use dair in general more though... 9 frames isn't really that bad. And if you hit someone behind you they like, die, it's great.
(Well, I said from just a ledge drop)Nairo definitely makes me want to use dair in general more though... 9 frames isn't really that bad. And if you hit someone behind you they like, die, it's great.
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http://smashboards.com/threads/character-survival-rankings.400617/
Dang our survival ranking is a lot better than I thought especially vertically.
Dang our survival ranking is a lot better than I thought especially vertically.
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Especially mid- high percents, dair can sometimes combo into bair for a quick killDid you practice me explaining the same thing just with flip jump kick instead?
Nairo definitely makes me want to use dair in general more though... 9 frames isn't really that bad. And if you hit someone behind you they like, die, it's great.
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Some Japanese frame data has been released. I'm compiling it alongside the American (Danterion, Thinkaman) data. New bits include transition frames for jabs, end frames (no IASA frames though), properties (transcendent, etc), item throw frames, some notes... and a few bits I'm having a hard time translating.
I should have it all up, posted, and appropriately referenced later tonight.
I should have it all up, posted, and appropriately referenced later tonight.
NickRiddle
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Frame data is awesome.
Then, of course, the side-by-side comparison pre and post patch~
Then, of course, the side-by-side comparison pre and post patch~
I finally got an Gamecube controller adapter, and the semester ended for me! :D Time to grind this game so much. 
ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
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pichuthedk
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Oh boy please do I want my fraudulent ways to be know world wide zzzzz... in any case I'm loafting again on these MUs the IRL johns are real.
Uhh actually edit now that I think of it i do have one and it is very Locoish? It is kinda useless but fun For thrils/style.
Depends on the situation but if it's side by side,SH immediate air dodge in place-> boost kick upon landing (if they/you think they will let go of shield to grab/smash you)
Or approaching sh immediate air dodge -> boost kick.
Absolutely useless but the times I've caught people reaching.Think I did that to seagull at some point for % or something.
There's also uncharged paralyzer hit confirm to Yolo boost kick works best if you catch them shing or something.
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Tobi_Whatever
あんたバカァ～！？
I know those feels. Just updated the video thread original post for the first time in months.
Gonna play a lot of smash this weekend.
pichuthedk
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I have the egl tournament down here Bread and I are gonna run zss squared...so my android doesn't have the squared sign cool...
2 day tourney I think I have a 20 $ with a Rosa Bo5 and loser has to use the name super saiyan fraud for the next tourney or few. XD
Pretty much rip if it's customs...x.x
I think that one works well for this.
pichuthedk
Smash Lord
Didn't say I was proud of it -_-0 just that I do it sometimes ;p.
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BreaD-
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Zss² team is gonna be hilarious lmao.
pichuthedk
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By new you mean the first couple days of the 3ds right? Because that's been a thing since even brawl xD.Apparently recovering from one end to the other end of Smashville is new guys.
I know however this is the first time Reddit has seen it lol. http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/35z84e/nairo_recovers_under_the_stage_with_zero_suit/
pichuthedk
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Oh dear god I'm gonna go out on a limp and assume he's been doing it for quite some time like most/some Zss's have been and that he didn't get it from me that weekend of the Niagara tourney (I like Yolo swinging all the time.).
Man Nairo is actually halarious even when there are no jokes being told.
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