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Akashi

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@Zwarm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRdkvM9S8jg

Clearly, I need to learn how to kill R.O.B. Can't believe I lived that rampage towards the end.
Whenever Zwarm was on the ledge, you gave him room to get back on. Stay in the range where you can dsmash either his normal get-up or roll from the ledge, and stay there. R.O.B's ledge options are pretty bad, and if with reaction, you can punish all of them.

tl;dr - option select him from the ledge, and don't give him breathing room

yes, I tl;dr a paragraph. :)
 

Zwarm

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@Zwarm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRdkvM9S8jg

Clearly, I need to learn how to kill R.O.B. Can't believe I lived that rampage towards the end.
And I need to learn to stop throwing out so many attacks and dying in stupid ways.

Whenever Zwarm was on the ledge, you gave him room to get back on. Stay in the range where you can dsmash either his normal get-up or roll from the ledge, and stay there. R.O.B's ledge options are pretty bad, and if with reaction, you can punish all of them.

tl;dr - option select him from the ledge, and don't give him breathing room

yes, I tl;dr a paragraph. :)
Basically this. Learn this, beat ROB.
 

_Kain_

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ROB's ledge options aren't bad. Just learn how to use invinc frames. If anything ROB is best on the ledge. Lrn2Ocean
 

Zwarm

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Invincibility options don't get you back on stage. Sure, he's fine using them to kill people offstage, but his jump removes all momentum, so he can't land on stage with invincibility frames left. He can fair and hold invincibility, but people who know the MU know to stay away from the ledge far enough where fair can't hit. His getup loses invincibility while he's still vunerable, his getup attack is horrible under 100%, and his roll loses invincibility and is really slow. I've basically resorted to protecting myself with nair as I jump up, and learning how to wavebounce up B to get a boost of momentum, like I do here www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRdkvM9S8jg#t=2m26s, though I'm still not consistent with it.

Oh, and the ledge jump is okay, because you can up B out of it for mindgames, but I haven't found a use for it really yet.

And man, I don't even know if Ocean does that wavebounce ledge option, I forget. But my ROB is basically a terrible, inconsistent tech skill, and using tech skill at the wrong time version of Ocean. I'll get there eventually, I just need to put more work in. ROB is built on struggle and heartbreak, ask any ROB main. :colorful:
 

MegaRobMan

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Whenever Zwarm was on the ledge, you gave him room to get back on. Stay in the range where you can dsmash either his normal get-up or roll from the ledge, and stay there. R.O.B's ledge options are pretty bad, and if with reaction, you can punish all of them.

tl;dr - option select him from the ledge, and don't give him breathing room

yes, I tl;dr a paragraph. :)
In the 1st match we had (that was game 3) I killed him at like 100 because I Dsmashed him near the ledge. Game 2 he started baiting it and I fell for it and suffered. So, game 3 I am warry of the ledge because I am trying to survive more than kill in this game. I missed a few opportunities to kill him, but overall, if he wanted to he could have upaired me before I'd be in d-smash range with BF's lip.

I should have dacus'd more but like I said, Ive only played afraiyll in friendlies and reverend inferno in a "John Cena DVD" money match as far as other rob mains. Oh, I guess I played Stockfield in a set when I was in North Carolina too...so I have slight knowledge.

I'm from Nebraska, I know like 7 matchups.
 

Akashi

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ROB's ledge options aren't bad. Just learn how to use invinc frames. If anything ROB is best on the ledge. Lrn2Ocean
gnw, wario, and pit are best on the ledge. Rob has a hard time getting off the stage on MOST characters (I'll admit not all). Idk man, wolf seems very easy to poke rob to death on the ledge - at least I see him having the same properties as Marth, but better (projectile).


On another note, I got myself HD Solo Beats by Dre, so do you fine gentlemen want to send me some music to test them out? Any genre but country, r&b, and any grindcore/deathmetal plz! Thx<3

:phone:
 

Zwarm

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gnw, wario, and pit are best on the ledge. Rob has a hard time getting off the stage on MOST characters (I'll admit not all). Idk man, wolf seems very easy to poke rob to death on the ledge - at least I see him having the same properties as Marth, but better (projectile).


On another note, I got myself HD Solo Beats by Dre, so do you fine gentlemen want to send me some music to test them out? Any genre but country, r&b, and any grindcore/deathmetal plz! Thx<3

:phone:
Yus, well put. And that covers half my music options, want some J-Pop? :colorful:

Also, sad to hear that King. Hope to see you around here again soon.

:phone:
 

Jdietz43

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I request my own joke tier in this ranking that simply states as a summary:

".....lol"

You can sneak it in come the next list update when people start looking for the new more MK-less rankings and just make everyone go "Who 'da heck...? Whaaaa???" :p
 

Xyless

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I request my own joke tier in this ranking that simply states as a summary:

".....lol"

You can sneak it in come the next list update when people start looking for the new more MK-less rankings and just make everyone go "Who 'da heck...? Whaaaa???" :p
Pretty sure Kappy would be higher on that tier than you.
 

hunger!

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Hunger if that is classified as dubstep?, then it would be the first rendition that actually didn't make me want to vomit. It was actually really enjoyable.
that's my exact point of view on it as well. I'm not a fan of dubstep but that song is pure genius. and that kid who made it is like 14
 

_Kain_

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He beat me with Pit In WFS. Then I beat it in GF1 and was beating it in GF2 so he went to Wario.

Still think the stagelist is dumb hate having to waste a ban on Brinstar and RC when those stages are dumb as ****
 

SpongeJordan

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Why'd you get the Dre Beats? T.T Shoulda gone Sennheiser or Bose even.

But anyways, good songs for testing...

Drum n Bass
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Pendulum - Slam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch_5_x1IUA8)
Pendulum - The Island Pt. 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4oGPQhvMp8)
Wickaman & RV - Ev's Dead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXP28Gj2-0o)

Dubstep
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Flux Pavillion - Bass Cannon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htm_956k5ps)
Skrillex - Reptile (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpS7nCweYZI)
Knife Party [Pendulum's dubstep offshoot] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loDBIWZSack)

Hardstyle
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Showtek - FTS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3a_faltUVE)
DJ Isaac - *****es (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HWEvYep8dE)
Headhunterz - Rock Civilization (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjUTXkeTANc)

House
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Deadmau5 - Sofi Needs a Ladder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDndZn0YPdI&ob=av3e)
Eric Prydz - Call On Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiG48BlZo6w)
Daft Punk - Alive 2007's Primetime of Your Life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW97pcUFwCs)(This is quite possibly my favorite song ever)

And then there's Scooter... I dunno, he's more trance pop than anything.
Maria (I Like It Loud) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVjeheaFfsM
Ti Sento - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEmG6w-KFno
 

Akashi

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Bump, grats to Hunger for 2nd! You deserve it =) now get 1st!

Also thank you to everyone that sent me music. I haven't listened to it all yet b/c I was at Meneil's place this weekend, but I will listen to it all tomorrow.

Also I need to PM Sago still .-. ugh, I have a lot to do
 

DLA

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DLAhhh
I think JJ was inactive last time... he usually gets PR'd when he is active though. Thing is, I thought he's lived in Iowa since the summer?

Anyways the list looks good. I was surprised at how low Marshall and Sago are, but it made sense when I thought about it. Also thought Arty would be above Hunger... maybe if Arty would stop losing to Kain every damn time. Hunger deserves it though.

edit: oh and also, did you guys count Revenge? I don't see it on the tournament list
 

Akashi

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He's still a resident of IL, even though he's going to school in Iowa. He'll be back - it's not like Count where he's only here temporarily. Lastly, he deserves the recognition, regardless of what state he spends the most time in. :0
 

Akashi

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Anyways the list looks good. I was surprised at how low Marshall and Sago are, but it made sense when I thought about it.
Marshall -
MK Banned Wins: Akashi, Renegade, Krystedez, Hunger, Norm
Wins: DC, Grimace, Hunger, Tysk

MK Banned Losses: Arty, Kain, Arty, Hunger
Losses: TripleR, Sago, Kain, Hunger, Almo, ESAM

Sago -
MK Banned Wins: Zwarm, Norm, Ook, TehDC
Wins: Grimace, Marshall, DLA, Legan, Bpow, Xaltis

MK Banned Losses: YoshQ, Meneil, Kappy, Arty, Arty, Cheese, Legan, JJRockets
Losses: Arty, Sago, JJRockets, Hunger, vvv Zero, Zekey, HolyNightmare, Leon

^For those who can't think of any reasons on why Marshall and Sago are lower than the people above them (not directed at you DLA, obviously).
 
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