The Deadly 4

[Irsic]

Yeah, I have a video of that. It's like 60 damage recovered or something.

 

[~Pink Fresh~]

you know what's REALLY fun?
absorbing waddle dee then seeing the look on DDD player's face when they notice that all the dmg they did on the entire last stock just vanished

lolololol

same for IC's blizzard.

 

[lil cj]

Lucas can absorb Waddle Dee's??

 

[ToxiCrow]

the lighting they shoot; not the animal itself

 

[ZMan]

The Waddle Doo's beam is abosorbable. Know what's even funnier? Reflecting a Gordo/Aura Sphere/Charage Shot and hitting them with the fsmash for massive damage.

 

[Irsic]

Yeah, I've done that on several occasions to Charizard. :D

I absorb 67% between 2:30 and 2:38 in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aVUm9tlcTo&feature=channel_page

 

[Natch]

That doesn't mean we won't unban him for when we go OOS.

Try running a tourny with no MK. It's so much more fun without him.

What do options Out Of Shield have to do with unbanning MK?

 

[Neon Ness]

What do options Out Of Shield have to do with unbanning MK?

I think he meant 'out of state'.

...Unless you were being facetious, in which case this post is pointless.

 

[~Pink Fresh~]

Natch is beginning to post here more often.

 

[Cheeri-Oats]

He has always posted... @_@ back to discussion:

Always block all of Game and Watch's turtle, and wait for the 9th hit. That one skips a beat. DO NOT attempt to Shield Grab. Jab or run away.

 

[ToxiCrow]

Gdubs dair: step away and forward smash when he lands

 

[Seanson]

He has always posted... @_@ back to discussion:

Always block all of Game and Watch's turtle, and wait for the 9th hit. That one skips a beat. DO NOT attempt to Shield Grab. Jab or run away.

sometimes bad GaW will not space so you can shield grab. But like you said, dont count on it all the time

 

[JigglyZelda003]

those were an interesting watch lol.

 

[prOAPC]

some time later i'll post my newest fights vs a good DK, i lost, but was because stupid mistakes, bad recovery, i got grabbed, and didn't realize that DK's bair is way better than Lucas' fair
still, i don't see why DK is from the deadly 4

 

[~Pink Fresh~]

some time later i'll post my newest fights vs a good DK, i lost, but was because stupid mistakes, bad recovery, i got grabbed, and didn't realize that DK's bair is way better than Lucas' fair
still, i don't see why DK is from the deadly 4

Our matchups are rated incorrectly. DK has a slight advantage. the numbers from the matchup guide makes it seem like you can pick up DK that second and win. On a different not, I NEED TO GO TO SOME F*****G tournaments.

 

[ToxiCrow]

we should make a revision. because i never knew DK was a rapist against lucas

 

[lil cj]

If we find out DK doesnt hav much of an avdantage and shouldnt be in the Deadly 4
than the next worst match up(s) would be between Snake and Peach

 

[ToxiCrow]

40-60 isnt that bad tho. in a 40-60, the better play would win.
(b4 toxi sounds like a moron, r snake and peach 40-60)

 

[lil cj]

40-60 isnt that bad tho. in a 40-60, the better play would win.
(b4 toxi sounds like a moron, r snake and peach 40-60)

Yes both of them are

 

[ToxiCrow]

then its not so bad that we need a thread on it. ness is considered 40-60.
40-60 is a slight match up. it's totally winnable.

 

[Tyr_03]

Snake and Peach are very beatable.

 

[Irsic]

Snake and Peach are very beatable.

Agreed, Snake more than Peach imo.

 

[Chuee]

Yeah ive played a good snake and i usually dont have that much trouble, except for walking into mines.

 

[ToxiCrow]

CJ
expect some stuff for 2morro on Gdub

 

[MyCurse4Life]

awesome job, I can use this for info.

 

[Jarun]

well with marth, idk it may mean that my friend is bad, but still i ranged, dodged like crazy and seriously, it seemed to work when i used PSI wave to intercept (VERY hard to time that to gimp him)

 

[Jarun]

we should make a revision. because i never knew DK was a rapist against lucas

i find him worse than G&W T.T

 

[Levitas]

Please don't double post, use the edit button to add whatever, and if you need to add a quote, you can always hit quote, copy the text it carries over into the dialogue box, and paste it into your original post.

Marth is definitely the worst lucas matchup, though. Waaaay worse than G&W or DK.

 

[Irsic]

I'd like to play your Marth Levitas, because I disagree with you. <_<

Though I feel like it's impossible to not have Marth practice, he's so popular. I guess that's the only reason I'm any good at it.

But easier than G&W?

 

[Levitas]

Oh yeah. G&W zones lucas. Marth zones G&W. Marth really zones lucas.

Come to ann arbor or something. Perhaps just hang out for a bit on a friday or just stop in some time.

 

[Chuee]

I think G&W is worse than marth.
BTW im fed up wit erick, he just sent me a flame PM. One more and ill send it to a mod

 

[JigglyZelda003]

im null to marth now, since it seems like everytime i say "i think, i'll pick Lucas now....." *enter Marth* *cries*

 

[prOAPC]

i'm with you Irsic, i'm not scared of Marth...

 

[JigglyZelda003]

maybeenough marths makes you get over fearing them, after all they're everywhere.....

 

[Levitas]

irsic, I will open your eyes to a whole new realm of fear. ಠ_ಠ

 

[lil cj]

I think G&W is a little more difficult than Marth
Has anyone ever played a really good G&W??
and look that match up is 20-80
Thats ridiculous!!!
almost unwinnable
if any of us played against Hylian's G&W we would surely lose...that match up is almost impossible IMO
Marth is 30-70
which is still difficult

 

[M-GOD]

Oh yeah. G&W zones lucas. Marth zones G&W. Marth really zones lucas.

Oh god I was doing a best of 3 tourny with my friends and one of them plays a good G&W.
I almost beat him but I tried an upsmash and was punished. It seems to easy to gimp with G&W on Lucas.

 

[~Pink Fresh~]

I think G&W is a little more difficult than Marth
Has anyone ever played a really good G&W??
and look that match up is 20-80
Thats ridiculous!!!
almost unwinnable
if any of us played against Hylian's G&W we would surely lose...that match up is almost impossible IMO
Marth is 30-70
which is still difficult

you are relying heavily on outdated matchup numbers instead of experience. Those numbers are subjective and they do not really say who is harder.

Oh god I was doing a best of 3 tourny with my friends and one of them plays a good G&W.
I almost beat him but I tried an upsmash and was punished. It seems to easy to gimp with G&W on Lucas.

no.
gimping G&W is hard with any character. Lucas is no exception.

 

[Neon Ness]

irsic, I will open your eyes to a whole new realm of fear. ಠ_ಠ

For some reason this really frightened me when I read it.

Also, yeah, Marth's tough. I was a little disappointed that I had to face a Marth to move on in a recent tournament. I really wanted to get farther. I got sloppy and Marth grabbed me... It was over. The more I face, though, the better I'll get probably. Now I just need more DK/G&W experience.

 

[ToxiCrow]

OK CJ, here's what we've got on G+W. namely, his Dair

What to do to punish it:
Move out of the way obviously (be it a dash, dodgeroll, etc)
-Pivot Grab
-Forward Smash
-F-tilt
-PKF (as he's coming down)
-Downsmash

DONT'S
-upsmash
-up tilt
-PKT

more to come soon. add this in the meantime