The Daitoryo for Smash 4 Thread. Goko; opponent wins game 4. (Disconfirmed)

[BridgesWithTurtles]

Even though I still dislike her inclusion, I can understand more the reasoning behind adding WFT, since she's basically a representative of Nintendo's future at this point...

...Which makes Iwata's mentioning of Hanafuda in the discussion more interesting. It shows that he's acknowledging the company's earliest days as well as the one's forthcoming. This makes the idea of including a Hanafuda character more appealing to me, since the idea of pitting Nintendo's past against their future sounds like good fun. WFT also demonstrates that Nintendo is willing to represent their "health platform" in Smash Bros, so maybe they'd be just as willing to represent Hanafuda, even though it has nothing to do with video games.

 

[Pacack]

Even though I still dislike her inclusion, I can understand more the reasoning behind adding WFT, since she's basically a representative of Nintendo's future at this point...

...Which makes Iwata's mentioning of Hanafuda in the discussion more interesting. It shows that he's acknowledging the company's earliest days as well as the one's forthcoming. This makes the idea of including a Hanafuda character more appealing to me, since the idea of pitting Nintendo's past against their future sounds like good fun. WFT also demonstrates that Nintendo is willing to represent their "health platform" in Smash Bros, so maybe they'd be just as willing to represent Hanafuda, even though it has nothing to do with video games.

I agree entirely.

 

[dimensionsword64]

I think there should be Hanafuda in some way, I just don't think it should be a playable character.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Only grasps I have about Daitouryou's chances is we never had nothing of a character that's not based on the videogame industry, which makes me worried. But Hanafuda is pretty damn significant, and with over 125 years for Nintendo currently, I wonder if Sakurai will take the opportunity.

 

[Pacack]

I think there should be Hanafuda in some way, I just don't think it should be a playable character.

What do you recommend? A stage, perhaps?

Only grasps I have about Daitouryou's chances is we never had nothing of a character that's not based on the videogame industry, which makes me worried. But Hanafuda is pretty damn significant, and with over 125 years for Nintendo currently, I wonder if Sakurai will take the opportunity.

Honestly, I'm feeling pretty confident that he might. It's a game about Nintendo, after all.

 

[BluePikmin11]

A stage for Hanafuda woould be weird, because there's no particular setting for Hanafuda.
Maybe base on the backgrounds on the Hanafuda cards.
Or if there is a Nazo no Muramase Jou stage, that could technically be his home stage since it's based on Japanese culture.

 

[Pacack]

A stage for Hanafuda woould be weird, because there's no particular setting for Hanafuda.
Maybe base on the backgrounds on the Hanafuda cards.
Or if there is a Nazo no Muramase Jou stage, that could technically be his home stage since it's based on Japanese culture.

I was imagining a table where a game of Koi-Koi is being played. The cards/tiles would act as obstacles, platforms, or hazards. Either that, or we could have a stage based off of all the hanafuda cards' artworks like you suggested. That wouldn't be too difficult. In fact, we could have the stage going through the seasons and changing from one card's artwork to another.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Ooh a stage that changes seasons as the timer ticks, that sounds like a really damn interesting stage when you mention the seasons.

 

[Pacack]

Ooh a stage that changes seasons as the timer ticks, that sounds like a really damn interesting stage when you mention the seasons.

And it could all be done with the very traditional Japanese style of the hanafuda cards. It would be absolutely breathtaking if done well.

 

[dimensionsword64]

What do you recommend? A stage, perhaps?

Honestly, I'm feeling pretty confident that he might. It's a game about Nintendo, after all.

A stage would be cool, made up of floating Hanafuda cards like Pokefloats, but there should also be trophies, stickers, and possibly an assist trophy.

 

[Pacack]

A stage would be cool, made up of floating Hanafuda cards like Pokefloats, but there should also be trophies, stickers, and possibly an assist trophy.

Daitoryo or Rainman would be good assist trophies (I would recommend Rainman as an assist trophy if Daitoryo's playable. Otherwise, Daitoryo all the way.)

Question; should the trophies for hanafuda be parts of the artwork on the cards (like just having the crane), or should they actually include the cards themselves?

 

[dimensionsword64]

Daitoryo or Rainman would be good assist trophies (I would recommend Rainman as an assist trophy if Daitoryo's playable. Otherwise, Daitoryo all the way.)

Question; should the trophies for hanafuda be parts of the artwork on the cards (like just having the crane), or should they actually include the cards themselves?

Probably the characters themselves.

 

[Pacack]

Probably the characters themselves.

Hmm...probably would work better. I can't imagine they'd have a trophy of "Spring Bright Card", but I can imagine them having a "Crane" trophy.

 

[PixelPasta]

I think the best approach for a Hanafuda themed stage would be to create a beautiful landscape with the scenery featured on the cards... like the hills, the sun, and the plants. Though I can't imagine the music that would play on the stage... perhaps some atmospheric traditional Japanese music.

Also... yes, I am trying to complete the Daitoryo drawing. Sorry for taking so long.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Maybe take some influence from Okami music?

 

[Pacack]

I think the best approach for a Hanafuda themed stage would be to create a beautiful landscape with the scenery featured on the cards... like the hills, the sun, and the plants. Though I can't imagine the music that would play on the stage... perhaps some atmospheric traditional Japanese music.

Also... yes, I am trying to complete the Daitoryo drawing. Sorry for taking so long.

Take your time! And, thinking about it, I would prefer that kind of stage more myself.

Maybe take some influence from Okami music?

How about traditional Japanese music? Wouldn't be a problem legally, and wouldn't have to take up development time making an original piece.

 

[Pacack]

Expect a series icon sometime soon. I just requested that one be made.

 

[Inawordyes]

I know movesets have been posted in here (I think), but because Hanafuda's origin is as a set of playing cards, I imagine him as being somewhat like Gambit in having a playstyle that revolves around using the cards as his form of attack. Now, I don't think ole' Napoleon has telekinetic abilities, haha, but maybe even something like Yugi in Yu-Gi-Oh, where he uses the cards to summon creatures and objects (based on what else was featured on the Hanafuda cards) to attack for him in his specials and such. I could see it being fun, kinda a little bit like Yuna in Dissidia 012: Final Fantasy if they want to go the full summoner route and use them for everything.

Or I'm crazy, haha; but suggestions are suggestions.

 

[Pacack]

I know movesets have been posted in here (I think), but because Hanafuda's origin is as a set of playing cards, I imagine him as being somewhat like Gambit in having a playstyle that revolves around using the cards as his form of attack. Now, I don't think ole' Napoleon has telekinetic abilities, haha, but maybe even something like Yugi in Yu-Gi-Oh, where he uses the cards to summon creatures and objects (based on what else was featured on the Hanafuda cards) to attack for him in his specials and such. I could see it being fun, kinda a little bit like Yuna in Dissidia 012: Final Fantasy if they want to go the full summoner route and use them for everything.

Or I'm crazy, haha; but suggestions are suggestions.

Would you like to give it a try? The more movesets the merrier!

 

[Inawordyes]

Would you like to give it a try? The more movesets the merrier!

I'm afraid I'm not really that good with planning out actual movesets, haha, otherwise I definitely would.

 

[Pacack]

I'm afraid I'm not really that good with planning out actual movesets, haha, otherwise I definitely would.

I see. Well, unfortunately, I'm not quite sure if I'd do the moveset justice, so I won't be making an attempt. Feel free to drop by if you become interested in trying and need help or something..

 

[TCT~Phantom]

So, for Valentine's Day, how would Daitoryo play in terms of a character? Any ideas?

 

[Pacack]

So, for Valentine's Day, how would Daitoryo play in terms of a character? Any ideas?

Definitely fast and combo-oriented. If you've ever played a game of Koi-Koi, you know that it's a fast paced game. I fully expect Daitoryo to be modeled after that.

And if we want gimmicks, I mentioned this before, but a mechanic where certain moves get more powerful when used after certain other moves in order to fully maximize their combo game would be extremely interesting and very fitting of Daitoryo.

 

[dimensionsword64]

I'm going to try to make a moveset for him to see if my opinions on him change.

Edit: Here it is. It may not be very good, as I don't know too much about Hanafuda.

A combo: 3 birds peck in front of Daitoryo.
Foward Tilt: Attacks with random potted plant.
Up Tilt: Attacks with random potted plant.
Down Tilt: Attacks with random potted plant.
Dash Attack: Swipes with ribbon.
Forward Smash: Shoots a frog forward.
Up Smash: Shoots a deer upwards.
Down Smash: Jumps and shoots a boar downwards.
Forward Air: Jabs umbrella forward.
Back Air: Jabs umbrella backwards.
Up Air: Shoots a flock of birds upwards.
Down Air: Shoots a flock of birds downward.
B: Throws cups rapidly.
Side B: Ribbon swing.
Up B: Flies up on a goose.
Down B: Butterflies surround him like a shield.
Final Smash: Flies around on a phoenix. Controls like Super Sonic, and acts similar.

Okay. There's my moveset.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Someone made a "Mr. Hanafuda" picture back at 4chan.
I'm surprised my idea is spreading further.

 

[Pacack]

Someone made a "Mr. Hanafuda" picture back at 4chan.
I'm surprised my idea is spreading further.

Aww, thanks for reviving the thread, blue.

 

[WindozeNT]

I support this

 

[Pacack]

I support this

You saint. Thank you. I was sure that this thread had died for good. I'll add you to the list of supporters.

 

[dimensionsword64]

You saint. Thank you. I was sure that this thread had died for good. I'll add you to the list of supporters.

I'm not sure what my feelings on Daitoryo are, now that I know more about him and made a moveset.

I'm not as against it as I originally was, but I still don't support. I'm kind of confused.

 

[TCT~Phantom]

So, I am guessing Daitoryo would be a secret newcomer...

 

[BluePikmin11]

He would definitely be one of them, just like G&W and R.O.B.
There's really no long way to put it anyways. That's the specialty of secret characters.

 

[Smady]

Been a long time coming for me to post my support for Napoleon. Here's some cool music for another Napoleonic-themed character.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I'd put the theme less final-battle based though. That sounds awesome for Napoleon for an original theme. O.o

 

[WindozeNT]

[oops, wrong thread]

 

[BluePikmin11]

Here's my Mr. Game & Watch. It's not the one I mentioned earlier -- that one was in Paint. I wouldn't consider this the final product; it's more of a rough draft. Also I scanned my signature.

Ooh, this might be the wrong thread to put it.

 

[WindozeNT]

Yeah, wrong thread. I thought this was the project thread instead of the Daitoryo one. I have so many tabs open...

 

[Pacack]

I'm not sure what my feelings on Daitoryo are, now that I know more about him and made a moveset.

I'm not as against it as I originally was, but I still don't support. I'm kind of confused.

What are you confused about? I'd be happy to explain.

So, I am guessing Daitoryo would be a secret newcomer...

No way he would be revealed before release. I'm positive of that.

Been a long time coming for me to post my support for Napoleon. Here's some cool music for another Napoleonic-themed character.

I'll add you to the list! :D

 

[dimensionsword64]

What are you confused about? I'd be happy to explain.

I'm confused on what my feelings on Daitoryo are. I don't really know if I want him in or not.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Then that's a personal problem you have to figure out.

 

[Pacack]

I'm confused on what my feelings on Daitoryo are. I don't really know if I want him in or not.

Is it a case of "I kinda want him/wouldn't be at all disappointed to see him in, but I have so many other characters that I'd rather have."?