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It's too bad they didn't show anything about that in tonight's episode. It was probably to make it more surprising that Crystal would get booted off. They better show us something next episode!Suzie also said that she doesn't trust Ken anymore, and she's sticking with Matty and Sugar.
She dislikes certain people and likes others. She's steered the game in the direction she felt was better.
I don't remember where, but I could have sworn Jeff said the final 3 had a "good vs evil" feel.
Excepting Randy, Bob's alliance gives him three guaranteed votes on the spot. Plus he's well liked enough to get the fourth. Bob will win.
Yhea, she was playing the game (with him). Nothing wrong with that. In fact, I give her props for that. But don't talk about good and evil when you have indeed been playing the game (and survivor is a dirty and dishonest game) with a dirty and dishonest player.
This. Ken's only jury threat is Bob, he can work around Matty.
Why would Sugar vote for Ken? Sugar turned on Ken and ended her alliance with him in this episode after hearing him and Crystal beat on Matty when he was lying down and knowing he was probably next and after Ken's scheme to oust Bob.
Sugar hasn't played dirty or dishonest at all! She's been one of the most honest players in the game. And what "dirty" tactics has she used, really?
OMG Yuna you must make your over 9000th post epic, this is your 8999th.
blindsiding ace? lying to crystal about voting to matty? (watch the extra scenes on cbs.com)
oh please, i cant beleive people beleive in this crap. the ****ing onions said that. they're saying it to feel better about themselves.
Why do you think I started a countdown towards the 9001st post from 8976 or something.
Maybe you guys missed the part where Ken lied to Sugar and convinced her Ace had turned on her and that he was plotting with Matty to take Sugar out. Sugar, believing she was being betrayed and was possibly set to go home unless she did something trusted Ken and turned on Ace in turn.
Why? It's perfectly possible to play for either side.
The Onion Alliance didn't get a chance to get to know Sugar the way the viewers have. It's not like they have seen the show.sure she mightve been edited sweeter then they could've, but there is no way she's as much as an *** as the onions claim. and i know this simply b/c everything else the onions have said has been a bunch of self-righteous bs with very little truth in it... why should this be any different? also, don't forget they're talking about the person the onions are the MOST pissed off about losing to
get over yourself. it was a joke and besides, it's SURVIVOR, a reality show that is completely based around treachery and deceit...
There are people who would seriously say that. And they have.
I based that on my own personal opinion from the deleted scenes/scenes that were shown. The fact that the other jury members said similar things in interviews was just something that backed it up.
No, that's her judging people "good" and "bad" and thinking of herself as a "good" player. It's not automatically arrogance. And from what we've seen, Sugar is more "good" than "bad", even if she's not playing the game to win it.
If I think it's a stupid reason, I'm perfectly justified in thinking so (and telling you so).
I'm not "meatriding" Sugar. Sugar isn't even one of my favorites to win. Well, from the people left on the show, she is. But she wasn't one of my favorites when there were more people still around.
Post 9001 will be reserved for a meaningful post in a meaningful thread. I'm certainly not going to waste it talking about Survivor or whether or not to ban D3's infinite.
Did you read my post?
She flipped on Ace, she flipped on Ken. More importantly, if you've read any of the interviews, she acted as a snot to everyone off camera. ALL of the jurors who have been interviewed complained about her. She played emotionally, not tactically, and made no moves of her own, just followed the lead of first Ace and then Ken, and then flipping on Ken in an emotional moment to save Bob who she viewed as "the nice guy". She had the fake idol played just to spite Randy, and more importantly, lost the respect of Marcus and Charlie and Bob by laughing at Randy as he was voted out.
She's emotional, makes cookie-cutter judgements of people ("good" vs "evil"), and has not made a single calculated decision in the entirety of this game.
No...Bob would get the votes from Corinne, Marcus, and Charlie. :/
Sugar hasn't played snake-y at all. She's played completely unintelligently as well as emotionally. She's easily the most gullible member of the cast, and has flipped *every* time someone has asked her to by spinning a lie. She believed Ken that Ace was plotting against her, and she believed Matty that Ken was lying about Bob claiming to have an immunity idol. She flip flops and acts very childish at tribal (making faces as she got rid of Crystal and laughing at Randy). She cries and makes a big scene, and then betrays her alliance to save Bob based on an emotional judgement rather than a rational one (Bob poses the greatest threat to her alliance).
Wait, I don't get this. Do you actually think there is/should be good/evil in a game? (like survivor) >.>
Sorry, I misread it was "if Sugar isn't in the Final 3".
I don't think Bob would vote Ken after what he tried to pull this week.
Ken didn't help Corinne out. Ken was tricked into thinking his best chances at winning was with Corinne. They're not idiots. They know he didn't do it out of the goodness of his hearts, he just played what he believed to be the most beneficial game.
She flipped on Ace because Ken lied to her and made her think Ace had betrayed her.
I've only watched the show. I specifically said that.
I never said she was some kind of princess who's nice to everyone and who should win. The stuff people say here on SWF, however, are largely inaccurate.
She's a bad player. No one's denying that.
No, I'm arguing that if you are going to deem people good or evil, then Sugar is perfectly justified in her judgments.
I very much doubt CBS would let that slip out. Unless this was in a non-CBS interview.
Well my initial point was that she was judging other people as good/evil when she's not being an angel herself. She's probably the least "sneaky" player left in the game. But still she lied to Crystal, and that is enough to take away her justification of judging people for being good/evil. She certainly did it for strategic reasons, but so was the majority of moves she judged as "evil" (ken's "evilness" has been 100% strategic)
its in the OP. You have to make an account on CBS though.
I said this when? I merely said that the fanboyism goes too far sometimes. The hypocrisy of it all. Ken can do whatever he wants but slight Ken in the least and you're a bad person or something.
Yet others who lie are deemed bad people. And did I not specifically state that Ken's played an interesting game?
See, this is where you fanboyism is blinding you. Sugar hasn't played snake-y at all. She's played badly. She's gullible and terrible judge of what is lies and what isn't.
Exactly. I wholeheartedly agree with this. This is why I think the fanboyism here on SWF has gone too far. Calling Sugar of all people Snake-y. She couldn't be Snake-y if she so wanted to be because she just isn't cut out for lying and scheming her way through the game.
Bob is like an older Ken. They're pretty much the same in the challenge department, only with Bob being better at most things. As in, neither is very athletic (Ken's fast, but ask him to lift heavy and stuff and watch him trip or something) but they're good at puzzles and stuff.
Corinne has jury connections, but I doubt she'd convince the others to vote for Ken (we're not even sure she'd vote for Ken).
Snake-y was the wrong word.
