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Super Armor List

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bombr

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Wario's Side Smash has super armor when he's moving forward.

EDIT: So does a fully charged Wario Waft. Don't know which part. Both tested on Warlock Punch.
 

Ryanarius

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I'd request that you change the credits for Pit's SA from Ryanarius to me, seeing as the video provided was mine, as well as I posted it a long time before.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=152723

Additional information, the only part of the shield that is SA is the time before the noise the shield makes, and it can only be used on the ground.
Agreed. I didn't mean to take credit for it at all I was just trying to put it on the list. This was all NxC video and find I just copied the link from the pit thread.
 

Kyle_Wattula

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The first post desperately needs updated, Seriously, who starts a project this big and isn't going to follow through.
 

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Lucas' up smash

DK's up b (the beginning)

DDD's inhale (when he is sucking them up). And about the inhale thing, when a kirby and a DDD try to suck each other up at the same time, kirby always wins.
 

looduhcriss

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i think Rob might have super armor when doing a grab or dash grab - im not sure...i just remember grabbing and taking dmg from DKs Giant punch all at the same time.
 

ReNiC

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im blind. is there any video showing the super armor situations in action?
 

edde

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i have no video proof of it, but, 2 days ago, with marth, i grabbed my friend (he was using fox) while he did fsmash

i took 17 damage and grabbed him without flinching, im not sure if it is super armor frames what im talking about, but if it is, marth's grab has the first frame or 2 with superarmor

you can ask PeteBeast on this forums, he was the fox
 

purekorea

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im blind. is there any video showing the super armor situations in action?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YoYmG4_6ews

Hmm, so Bowser doesn't have much SA at all, does he?
I've heard his Forward smash and upb have a few SA frames. Also his Side B has SA at the startup.

i have no video proof of it, but, 2 days ago, with marth, i grabbed my friend (he was using fox) while he did fsmash

i took 17 damage and grabbed him without flinching, im not sure if it is super armor frames what im talking about, but if it is, marth's grab has the first frame or 2 with superarmor

you can ask PeteBeast on this forums, he was the fox
All character's grabs have SA at the startup it seems. I've seen multiple characters do what you have described.
 

omegablackmage

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ok so yeah, this needs to be taken off the sticky list if it isn't going to get updated -_-

gw does NOT have super armor in his up smash

grabs do have super armor when connecting
 

ssbbFICTION

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Strange no one has mentioned it yet....Wario's F-smash has it while he is dashing. I smashed him and he didnt move.
 

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sorry if this has been mentioned in this thread, i only checked the updated first post.

anyway today i was doing 4 player brawl against 3 lvl 9 cpu's as marth, and 3/3 times i got critical hit against the ice-climbers they super-armoured against it. i got no idea what move they used or maybe it was invincibility frames, but the animation happened along with the big 'CHING' noise of it connecting, but they didnt budge. same game i managed to critical hit pikachu and fox so i dont think it was bad luck that 3/3 missed. we know lvl 9 cpu does some strange things, but this seemed a little too much :p
 

Kiederen

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A big 'ching' sounds as if they just powershielded it, though off hand, I don't remember the momentum physics for that.

I don't know if it was posted yet, but I suspect DDD might have super armor frames when he's sucking someone in with his neutral b. As in, during the animation of the opponent falling off their feet into his mouth, not when the attack is not affecting anything or when he's finished swallowing them, just in-between. If this hasn't been confirmed, can someone double check it?
 

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Since I'm moderately lazy, I haven't checked most of the thread... BUT

Bowser's side-b has Super Armor around the start of the move. Fairly short though.

and I'm quite sure that Lucas' UpSmash has super armor frames just before the actual attack is released. I suppose that one isn't definite.
 

chumlord

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I didn't see this on the list but I think ganondorf might have super armor or whatever once he grabs someone with his over b....
 

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I was playing DDD, and a Wolf was using his neutral air on me while I was doing his forward smash (right at the startup), so I assume there are some there.
 

Kyle_Wattula

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I am SOOOOOOOO MAD @ Mosquito UPDATE DAT 1st post noob.


DK's 3rd SA window. =)


Cargo carry has Frames for the first 60-120 frames of the opponent on your shoulder.

-This makes the IC match much better as you can throw them now.
-This will utilize hazards like Onett. LOL free car deaths.
-Improves DK's role in group/team Brawl.
-Pick up snake and walk over his own Grenades/motion sensored bombs.
 

motion51

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dedede's neutral B "inhale" has super armor frames if you manage to get by a physical attack before sucking the opponent in. best demonstrated with snake by doing his dash attack in his mouth.
 

Magus420

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Contrary to popular belief:

Regular grabs do NOT have super armor.

My theory about grabs and attacks connecting at the same time and trading hits was correct.

People that think they see super armor on grab based moves are more than likely just confusing it with this new game mechanic. I'll post a video later when I get a chance.

Why it took someone who had played the game a total of 2 times since the jpn release to figure that out I haven't a clue =P
 

Jink

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All grabs at near hit frames have SuperAmor, most noticeable with Link's ClawShot, you get hit but the grab just goes on.
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Edit: sorry, I didn't read this...

By Magus420

Contrary to popular belief:
Regular grabs do NOT have super armor.
My theory about grabs and attacks connecting at the same time and trading hits was correct.
People that think they see super armor on grab based moves are more than likely just confusing it with this new game mechanic. I'll post a video later when I get a chance.



Now I'm looking toward to that...
 

Magus420

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Alright, here's the video I was talking about that shows that grabs just trade with attacks and it isn't SA frames:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeuXNw5P3G4

Luigi's grab and Fox's f-tilt are both 6 frames in Brawl.

From the front, the grab connects on Fox and the f-tilt connects on Luigi at the exact same time. The result is Luigi getting the grab on Fox, but still taking the damage from the f-tilt though he doesn't go anywhere since he also has Fox in the grab. The attack has no hitlag/freezeframes.

From behind, the f-tilt connects on Luigi but the grab misses Fox (looking at it 2 dimensionally it may appear that the grab should connect near his foot, but that's actually in 'front' of the grab hitbox in the foreground). The result here is Luigi taking the hit normally.

The key thing here is that if it truly were SA frames, then when the grab whiffed he should still take the damage and no knockback regardless. This is not the case however.
 

Kurorin

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Successful Grab SA?

Alright, here's the video I was talking about that shows that grabs just trade with attacks and it isn't SA frames:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeuXNw5P3G4

Luigi's grab and Fox's f-tilt are both 6 frames in Brawl.

From the front, the grab connects on Fox and the f-tilt connects on Luigi at the exact same time. The result is Luigi getting the grab on Fox, but still taking the damage from the f-tilt though he doesn't go anywhere since he also has Fox in the grab. The attack has no hitlag/freezeframes.

From behind, the f-tilt connects on Luigi but the grab misses Fox (looking at it 2 dimensionally it may appear that the grab should connect near his foot, but that's actually in 'front' of the grab hitbox in the foreground). The result here is Luigi taking the hit normally.

The key thing here is that if it truly were SA frames, then when the grab whiffed he should still take the damage and no knockback regardless. This is not the case however.
May I suggest one last test to make sure there are NO super armor frames on grabs? Perhaps there is super armor, but only upon a successful grab.
Do the same test, but hit Luigi from behind while he successfully grabs another character in front of him. He can not trade hits with someone behind him as he is not grabbing them and if "super armor with a successful grab" does exist then he should not flinch because he is grabbing someone in front.

I would test this myself, but I do not have the capabilities to test or capture video.

PS: I believe your theory is correct, but I like to test everything thoroughly before declaring it to be true.
 

Magus420

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May I suggest one last test to make sure there are NO super armor frames on grabs? Perhaps there is super armor, but only upon a successful grab.
Do the same test, but hit Luigi from behind while he successfully grabs another character in front of him. He can not trade hits with someone behind him as he is not grabbing them and if "super armor with a successful grab" does exist then he should not flinch because he is grabbing someone in front.

I would test this myself, but I do not have the capabilities to test or capture video.

PS: I believe your theory is correct, but I like to test everything thoroughly before declaring it to be true.
I thought of this as well, but someone else would need to test that since I do not have the game, and it was after the time I was able to record stuff.

Just for the record, Pit has Super Armor on his grab too.
You mean this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeuXNw5P3G4
 

NoVaLombardia

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I don't have a video, due to the lack of a camera or a recording device, but if i can get the clip under 3 minutes i can save the replay to my wii.

Absolutely sure Ike's D-tilt has no SA Frames, check more on my thread on his SA Frames in the Ike boards. I'm also starting to doubt any on the AAA jab, though im still testing.
 

Black Waltz

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I don't have a video, due to the lack of a camera or a recording device, but if i can get the clip under 3 minutes i can save the replay to my wii.

Absolutely sure Ike's D-tilt has no SA Frames, check more on my thread on his SA Frames in the Ike boards. I'm also starting to doubt any on the AAA jab, though im still testing.
NoVa's Ike SA test thread, just for reference:

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=160707
 
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