Stage Discussion

[JaidynReiman]

Nice catch.

It looks similar, but it looks like we can't swim in it, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGQ1BsLlzn8

Which, again, doesn't matter. Game and Watch's Final Smash can't swim either, it just floats.


I never even noticed there was water in Mushroom Kingdom U.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Which, again, doesn't matter. Game and Watch's Final Smash can't swim either, it just floats.


I never even noticed there was water in Mushroom Kingdom U.

Swim, float, whatever, we can't go in it as it's beyond the blastzone.

There's only few videos of the stage, so it's hard to notice.

 

[MrGame&Rock]

Can't tell if you're trying to be funny or be a d***?

Combined, the 3DS and Wii U versions have 80 stages

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Combined, the 3DS and Wii U versions have 80 stages

It's actually 81 (if one counts Miiverse)..... but yeah, you're absolutely right and I never saw it that way......

Swim, float, whatever, we can't go in it as it's beyond the blastzone.

There's only few videos of the stage, so it's hard to notice.

What about this magical thing called "taking photos while on pause"?

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

It's actually 81 (if one counts Miiverse)..... but yeah, you're absolutely right and I never saw it that way......

What about this magical thing called "taking photos while on pause"?

I guess it would be hard to take the photo considering it's beyond the blastzone and the "bubblezone", if there's a name for it.

 

[Strofirko]

So,after we knowing every single stage on the wiiu version,this thread turned kinda " irrelevant",someone could update the OP putting the final list of the stages on the wiiu version,mentioning their traits,physics,stage hazards,or something else....

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

So,after we knowing every single stage on the wiiu version,this thread turned kinda " irrelevant",someone could update the OP putting the final list of the stages on the wiiu version,mentioning their traits,physics,stage hazards,or something else....

There's still DLC possibility......

 

[LordVacation]

Combined, the 3DS and Wii U versions have 80 stages

Yes I know but just the way he said it was suspicious to me.
There's a lot of people who either can't afford an entire handheld for one game or can't get mommy and daddy to spend 300+ dollars on a 3DS/Smash Bros.

And even then it's not like you can link the two games and get each amount of stages so, idk... just... **** that comment, lol.

 

[MrGame&Rock]

Yes I know but just the way he said it was suspicious to me.
There's a lot of people who either can't afford an entire handheld for one game or can't get mommy and daddy to spend 300+ dollars on a 3DS/Smash Bros.

And even then it's not like you can link the two games and get each amount of stages so, idk... just... **** that comment, lol.

No I agree with you, when Im playing Wii U, 3DS stages don't count. For me, Stage Builder is the main condolence here, and I suspect the low number of stages made by devs might encourage people to try making their own

 

[Rockaphin]

I wish one of the Animal Crossing stages wasn't on a floating platform.
Add a little variety because the two stages are nearly identical.

 

[LordVacation]

I wish one of the Animal Crossing stages wasn't on a floating platform.
Add a little variety because the two stages are nearly identical.

I wish we got Tortimer Island instead.
I really really dig that level.

 

[Weldar]

No I agree with you, when Im playing Wii U, 3DS stages don't count. For me, Stage Builder is the main condolence here, and I suspect the low number of stages made by devs might encourage people to try making their own

While its true the stages for the other version don't count while you're just playing one you do have the remember the developers were actually working on both the games at the same time. You say making up for the low number of stages made by the devs but the devs did actually make around 80 stages (or around 45-50 if you're only counting new, I can't really be bothered for an exact count). They made a lot of stages on the whole, just had to be split up between two different games. It makes each individual package look kind of disappointing but it was kind of to be expected, and overall is still fairly reasonable.

 

[Techno Hunter]

So....we STILL don´t get a new ROB stage? FOR THE THIRD TIME?

 

[Hayzie]

Miiverse stage comes with other stages in a pack just as Mewtwo comes with other characters in a pack.

This is what's going to happen.

Spoiler

THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Miiverse stage comes with other stages in a pack just as Mewtwo comes with other characters in a pack.

This is what's going to happen.

Spoiler

THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

No, Miiverse is going to be added in a patch. Mewtwo will be actual DLC you can get free if you have both versions. These are two different scenarios all-together.


Although, technically, Miiverse is somewhat accurate. Miiverse is going to be added in a patch with a variety of game modes.

 

[MrGame&Rock]

While its true the stages for the other version don't count while you're just playing one you do have the remember the developers were actually working on both the games at the same time. You say making up for the low number of stages made by the devs but the devs did actually make around 80 stages (or around 45-50 if you're only counting new, I can't really be bothered for an exact count). They made a lot of stages on the whole, just had to be split up between two different games. It makes each individual package look kind of disappointing but it was kind of to be expected, and overall is still fairly reasonable.

Well I mean specifically the low number of stages on the Wii U version. I understand it took a lot of effort to make all the stages in both versions but we're mostly going to be playing the Wii U version when it launches

 

[Hayzie]

No, Miiverse is going to be added in a patch. Mewtwo will be actual DLC you can get free if you have both versions. These are two different scenarios all-together.


Although, technically, Miiverse is somewhat accurate. Miiverse is going to be added in a patch with a variety of game modes.

Hey you mind your own business.

 

[Luigi-man]

Also, SMASH 64 STAGE KONGO JUNGLE RETURNS!!

 

[Rockaphin]

Also, SMASH 64 STAGE KONGO JUNGLE RETURNS!!

I was really hoping for Hyrule Castle, Saffron City, or the Super Mario Bros. Stage. I loved going into the pipes as a kid.
Kongo Jungle was a good one too. I really hope some Donkey Kong Country music play on that stage. David Wise is a great composer.

 

[Luigi-man]

I was really hoping for Hyrule Castle, Saffron City, or the Super Mario Bros. Stage. I loved going into the pipes as a kid.
Kongo Jungle was a good one too. I really hope some Donkey Kong Country music play on that stage. David Wise is a great composer.

If it doesn't take too much space, bringing back all the n64 stages would be awesome It would have it's own section called 'n64 stages'. But again, only if it wouldn't take too much space.

 

[Naoshi]

If it doesn't take too much space, bringing back all the n64 stages would be awesome It would have it's own section called 'n64 stages'. But again, only if it wouldn't take too much space.

Stages shouldn't take up that much space (storage wise). Level data isn't very huge, especially past levels since they have lower res assets.

 

[MrGame&Rock]

Besides, if there's one N64 stage to have playable in multiplayer, it should have been this:

The VERY FIRST thing I do when I get this game is recreate that stage in the stage builder.

 

[König Nickerchen]

Guys there wont be downloadable stages Sakurai said this. I just create an Thread for this. -_-"

 

[JaidynReiman]

Guys there wont be downloadable stages Sakurai said this. I just create an Thread for this. -_-"

No he didn't. I don't know what you're getting at. He said there's no plans at this time for DLC. He never said their won't be downloadable stages, characters, etc. You're reading way too much into this, especially when Sakurai said the exact same thing a short while before Mewtwo was revealed.

 

[Naoshi]

Guys there wont be downloadable stages Sakurai said this. I just create an Thread for this. -_-"

As I've explained in your thread, you took what he said out of context, someone already made the thread to begin with. Please read things more carefully next time.

 

[König Nickerchen]

Okay sorry didn´t see it.

 

[CardiganBoy]

Well, that's disappointing, Some franchises that had 3 stages in Brawl now have 2, plus they brought back bad ones like Eldin Bridge instead of Pirate Ship, Norfair instead of Frigate Orpheon, just to mention those.

 

[Weavile's Wrath]

I think we'll get 5 DLC packs, one for each game(including 3DS) and one with new stages. Here are my ideas for the packs:
64:
Hyrule Castle
Saffron City
Metal Cavern
Melee:
Fourside
Fountain of Dreams
Pokéfloats
Brawl:
Pirate Ship
Frigate Orpheon
Hanenbow
3DS:
Reset Bomb Forest
Mute City
Magicant
New:
Gyromite
Chaos Vortex
Clock Town's Clock Tower(MM3D!)

 

[LordVacation]

In the Game Explain review he says that the 8 player and 5-6 player smash stage roster is different... I thought it WASN'T though?
Maybe I just need to wait and play it...

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

In the Game Explain review he says that the 8 player and 5-6 player smash stage roster is different... I thought it WASN'T though?
Maybe I just need to wait and play it...

I don't remember where, but it was said that there were more stages playable for 5-6 players than for 7-8 players.

 

[LordVacation]

I don't remember where, but it was said that there were more stages playable for 5-6 players than for 7-8 players.

If that's true that makes me happy thanks for the good news, haha

 

[Rueckkoppler]

If that's true that makes me happy thanks for the good news, haha

Check this out: http://smashbros-miiverse.com/stages/wiiu

They listed some stages that are playable with 6 players!

 

[Piford]

Yeah like Wii Fit Studio and Wuhu Island are available in 5-6 but not 7-8

 

[Johnny Heart Gold]

Somebody please tell me all the stages

 

[König Nickerchen]

Somebody please tell me all the stages

Learn to read -_-"

 

[JaidynReiman]

Somebody please tell me all the stages

That's interesting. If that's the case, it messes up with the roster:

So, either the roster WON'T be clean at the end, or there's several more stages we don't know about and the list will expand to 7 columns.

This is it, except "Flat Zone 2" is actually "Flat Zone X", a combination of Flat Zone's 1 and 2. Miiverse is not available yet, and there is no stage at the "?" at the top.

Learn to read -_-"

That too.

 

[Lozjam]

How are we looking in terms of competitively viable stages?
I think PS2 should be legal this time around.
I also think Kalos Pokemon league should be legal due to the fact that none of the hazards last for long, they are low damage, and the aren't random and are well choreographed.

 

[Piford]

How are we looking in terms of competitively viable stages?
I think PS2 should be legal this time around.
I also think Kalos Pokemon league should be legal due to the fact that none of the hazards last for long, they are low damage, and the aren't random and are well choreographed.

Here's the list of legal stages I came up with

Legel
Battlefield
Big Battlefield
Final Destination
Mario Circuit (Wii U)
Delphino Plaza
Skyloft
Norfair
Halberd
Orbital Gate Assault
Lylat Cruise
Pokemon Stadium 2
Castle Siege
Town and City
Smashville
Duck Hunt
Pilot Wings
Wuhu Island
Windy Hill Zone
Miiverse

Well See
Mario Galaxy
Luigi's Mansion
Wooly World
Jungle Hijinx
Port Town Aero Dive
Coliseum
Garden of Hope
Wii Fit Studio
Wrecking Crew


Probably Not
Mushroom Kingdom U
Mario Circuit (Brawl)
Yoshi's Island
Gamer
Kalos Pokemon League
Onett
Skyworld

Banned
Boxing Ring
Gaur Plains
Wily Castle
75m
Temple
Bridge of Eldin
Pyrosphere
The Great Cave Offensive
Flatzone X
Palutena's Temple
Pac-Land

 

[andalsoandy]

How are we looking in terms of competitively viable stages?
I think PS2 should be legal this time around.
I also think Kalos Pokemon league should be legal due to the fact that none of the hazards last for long, they are low damage, and the aren't random and are well choreographed.

Umm, from what I've seen, these ones look pretty safe to me:
Battlefield
Big Battlefield
Final Destination
Delfino Plaza
Wuhu Island
Pilotwings
Smashville
Town and City
Kongo Jungle
Halberd
Skyloft
Lylat Cruise
Duck Hunt
Pokemon Stadium 2
Orbital Gate

(iffy choices but still might work):
Wii Fit (walk-offs)
Coliseum (walk-offs)
Windy Hill (a bit big)
Mario Circuit 8 (shy guys)
Jungle Hijinks (explore background/foreground mechanic)
Gamer (depends on how frequent Mom shows up and how much area her attacks cover)
Castle Siege
Bridge of Eldin (walk-offs)
Mario Galaxy (big, walk-offs)
Boxing Ring (just ****ing weird)
Port Town Aero Dive
Wrecking Crew (weird platforms, oil drums can trap you)
Norfair (lava)
Wooly World

I haven't seen a ton of footage of every stage, so bear with me if I'm not aware of a glaring stage hazard.
Also this is just my opinion. please don't hurt me.

 

[Piford]

Umm, from what I've seen, these ones look pretty safe to me:
(iffy choices but still might work):
Wii Fit (walk-offs)
Coliseum (walk-offs)
Windy Hill (a bit big)
Mario Circuit 8 (shy guys)
Jungle Hijinks (explore background/foreground mechanic)
Gamer (depends on how frequent Mom shows up and how much area her attacks cover)
Castle Siege
Bridge of Eldin (walk-offs)
Mario Galaxy (big, walk-offs)
Boxing Ring (just ****ing weird)
Port Town Aero Dive
Wrecking Crew (weird platforms, oil drums can trap you)
Norfair (lava)
Wooly World

Castle Siege isn't really iffy; it was legal in brawl and with the removal of chain grabs the stage is that much better.
Windy Hill Zone isn't really that big. Kills happen at about the same percent, and only half the windmill is on the stage at one time.