Stage Discussion

[PKNinja95]

Stage Builder is probably the most disappointing feature so far in Smash Bros 4 overall. So nice you can draw out the level but real lame you can't make them look actually visually pleasing since it's lacking so much.

Also the lack of gameplay elements like conveyor belts, ice blocks, falling blocks, etc... just why?

Stage Builder has always been disappointing

 

[König Nickerchen]

Wuhu Island is my favorite Stage right now!

 

[Naoshi]

Stage Builder has always been disappointing

It certainly has.. but they finally got it right this time, except they removed some features that should've stayed. :<

 

[LordVacation]

I don't get the stage builder hate just because of the lack of gimmicks?

 

[Naoshi]

I don't get the stage builder hate just because of the lack of gimmicks?

Disappointments does not mean hate.

I really really appreciate I can draw out the layout now, that is a huge plus. But I am disappointed that they cut out almost every gimmick that Brawl had in its builder. I think it's a weird omission and would limit my ideas for stages. I feel they took a huge step forward but several small steps back.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

It certainly has.. but they finally got it right this time, except they removed some features that should've stayed. :<

Although to be fair, we haven't seen every unlock on the Challenges screen, have we? Until then, are we sure that it lost all those features?

 

[Naoshi]

Although to be fair, we haven't seen every unlock on the Challenges screen, have we? Until then, are we sure that it lost all those features?

Someone has said they've done almost everything and have not come across a single stage builder part unlock. It's extremely unlikely that he just happens to somehow miss all of them if he already played the game that much.

I would love to be wrong though.

 

[BearUNLV]

I still love Wily's Castle stage on Omega Mode. The music is too good.

 

[PKNinja95]

I have only made a Stage once.

And that was back in '08

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Someone has said they've done almost everything and have not come across a single stage builder part unlock. It's extremely unlikely that he just happens to somehow miss all of them if he already played the game that much.

I would love to be wrong though.

Or he was under embargo to not show it? I dunno. Probably not, which is too bad. Well, I guess we'll find out more tomorrow.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Someone has said they've done almost everything and have not come across a single stage builder part unlock. It's extremely unlikely that he just happens to somehow miss all of them if he already played the game that much.

I would love to be wrong though.

Me too, but as you said, not all stages are revealed and maybe "make _ stages" is among them

 

[MrGame&Rock]

when does Embargo get lifted?

 

[Deleted member]

deleted account

 

[Xevious 1]

I guess they combined Flat Zone 1 & 2 into one stage called Flat Zone X.

 

[Meelow]

So it seems Flat Zone X is the last stage, someone unlocked all of them.

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There are 47 stages (Miiverse stage is the 47th), and then we have a chance of more DLC stages, hopefully Earthbound/Mother and F-Zero get a new stage + a 2nd Zelda and Pokemon new stage, I just am confused as to how Toon Link doesn't have a stage, they could of brought back Pirate Ship instead of Bridge of Elden for example.

 

[G-Guy]

So it seems Flat Zone X is the last stage, someone unlocked all of them.

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There are 47 stages (Miiverse stage is the 47th), and then we have a chance of more DLC stages, hopefully Earthbound/Mother and F-Zero get a new stage + a 2nd Zelda and Pokemon new stage, I just am confused as to how Toon Link doesn't have a stage, they could of brought back Pirate Ship instead of Bridge of Elden for example.

that's cool, though. I am happy with the selection of stages. The 3DS version had a lot of stages i found unbearable to play (tomodachi, save the crown, nintendogs, etc) while the Wii U really does not have a single stage i dislike. Hooray!

 

[toadster101]

That's only 5 more than Brawl, and 21 are from previous games. Embarrassing, but not surprising.

 

[Vintage Creep]

Yeah another victim of the 3DS version is the disappointing stage roster on the WiiU one.
Still pretty good, but you cannot stop thinking about what could've been. Transfering all the 3DS exclusive stages alone on WiiU would be more than enough. Ugh. **** the 3DS version.

 

[König Nickerchen]

Okay guys its all over.

 

[NintenRob]

People complain there are only 46 stages but I'm just going to be sitting at home with my 80 stages.

Even with 46, I'm pretty happy with this stage roster.

 

[Naoshi]

People complain there are only 46 stages but I'm just going to be sitting at home with my 80 stages.

Even with 46, I'm pretty happy with this stage roster.

I plan on moving on from the 3DS version once I get the Wii U game. I consider both of them separate games even though they are paired titles. (Seriously, they're 2 titles I've paid full price of each.)

I don't mind too much that there's 46 stages, but I find it really disappointing that Mother and F-Zero don't get any new stages on Wii U (I mean, Magicant HD and Mute City would've been perfect to port over). And no franchise has a 2nd new stage (except Mario), which is kind of weird considering Zelda and Pokemon has 2 brand new stages on 3DS. I mean, I was for sure thinking Zelda, DK and Pokemon would get a 2nd new stage on Wii U... ah well at least DK got his N64 stage back which is pretty neat.

Still though, there's less new stages on Wii U than there is in Brawl, so it's not gonna feel as fresh. I don't think the stage roster is terrible, but it certainly could've been better. But with DLC I'm sure it'll fix things.

 

[Rueckkoppler]

Yeah another victim of the 3DS version is the disappointing stage roster on the WiiU one.
Still pretty good, but you cannot stop thinking about what could've been. Transfering all the 3DS exclusive stages alone on WiiU would be more than enough. Ugh. **** the 3DS version.

Yep. A Wind Waker HD, Tropical Freeze & 3D World stage would've been perfect for this version. I would swap each of them with Wolly World at any time... :/ But I think it was important to get the game out on black friday / holiday season, so we might (or rather will) get new stages sometime in 2015.

 

[G-Guy]

In all honesty, I do not recommend being salty or disappointed with this stage selection. In fact, I see this as the starting point with a lot more to come.

Mario kart 8 just has proven that Nintendo is able to produce amazing Dlc and with Miiverse they have a very potent way of watching fan request.

Heck, I strongly advise you to create the classic stages you want with the stage builder only to put them up for download. Thats another way to show nintendo what we want.

Bottom line: the game is developed and Sakurai has everything in it he wanted. Now its our turn to tell him what we want in addition :-)

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

In all honesty, I do not recommend being salty or disappointed with this stage selection. In fact, I see this as the starting point with a lot more to come.

Mario kart 8 just has proven that Nintendo is able to produce amazing Dlc and with Miiverse they have a very potent way of watching fan request.

Heck, I strongly advise you to create the classic stages you want with the stage builder only to put them up for download. Thats another way to show nintendo what we want.

Bottom line: the game is developed and Sakurai has everything in it he wanted. Now its our turn to tell him what we want in addition :-)

Well, it could've been better, but as you said, DLC may be our way to tell Sakurai what we want (I want Magicant HD too, so beautiful)

 

[JaidynReiman]

Oh, I'm not salty about the stage selection, and I'm definitely expecting more to come next year. We can still speculate on what may come as DLC now.

 

[fogbadge]

i may not of gotten that nintendo land stage, but i got skyloft, wrecking crew, mario galaxy, wuhu island and delfino plaza returing so overall im happy

 

[LordVacation]

*grumbles unintelligibly to self*

Seriously though; kinda depressing but... and I hate to even think this--
DLC will cure my woes.
I'm sure the DLC stages will be outstanding.

I can see an N64 pack in the future... my heart is fluttering just thinking of it.

I had fun speculating with y'all.
Have fun with the game!

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

I don't want to make stupid speculations, but...

There's exactly the room needed for a DLC tab, nex to the Normal and Custom tabs.

 

[JaidynReiman]

I don't want to make stupid speculations, but...

There's exactly the room needed for a DLC tab, nex to the Normal and Custom tabs.

Yes, and we know there's arrows in the 3DS room as well. I'm pretty sure we will get a DLC tab. Now, I'm 50/50 on whether or not Miiverse will be on said tab at this point.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I don't want to make stupid speculations, but...

There's exactly the room needed for a DLC tab, nex to the Normal and Custom tabs.

Or between them....

 

[LordVacation]

People complain there are only 46 stages but I'm just going to be sitting at home with my 80 stages.

Can't tell if you're trying to be funny or be a d***?

 

[Daeyrat]

*grumbles unintelligibly to self*

Seriously though; kinda depressing but... and I hate to even think this--
DLC will cure my woes.
I'm sure the DLC stages will be outstanding.

I can see an N64 pack in the future... my heart is fluttering just thinking of it.

I had fun speculating with y'all.
Have fun with the game!

If smash follows hyrule warriors and mario kart's trend, we'll be getting some really cool DLCs.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Or between them....

Or between them, yep.

Also, I was thinking... What stage is it, in the end?

We can only swim in two stages, Wuhu Island and Delfino Plaza, and neither have this kind of water.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Or between them, yep.

Also, I was thinking... What stage is it, in the end?

We can only swim in two stages, Wuhu Island and Delfino Plaza, and neither have this kind of water.

Pretty sure its Delfino. And the thing is, the background changes when Mr. Game and Watch's Final Smash is active, that's why the water looks different.

 

[LordVacation]

bair was 17% for


If smash follows hyrule warriors and mario kart's trend, we'll be getting some really cool DLCs.

Definitely.
I'm stoked to see what they have in store for us.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Pretty sure its Delfino. And the thing is, the background changes when Mr. Game and Watch's Final Smash is active, that's why the water looks different.

Still, Delfino's water is really different.

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And the background should still be visible too, despite the color change.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Or between them, yep.

Also, I was thinking... What stage is it, in the end?

We can only swim in two stages, Wuhu Island and Delfino Plaza, and neither have this kind of water.

Still, Delfino's water is really different.

Spoiler

And the background should still be visible too, despite the color change.

There is another thing that should be noted. Game and Watch's Final Smash doesn't "swim," it just floats. That can literally be any stage with water.


EDIT: Ok, so there are only two stages with water. That's different from saying the only stages where you can swim.

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

There is another thing that should be noted. Game and Watch's Final Smash doesn't "swim," it just floats. That can literally be any stage with water.


EDIT: Ok, so there are only two stages with water. That's different from saying the only stages where you can swim.

Well, you could try to swim in Norfair's lava, but I don't think that's recommended

That water texture is weird. Especially considering it's not an old picture: it was release on the 24th of October. It has a Wind Waker look, yet it's transparent.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

@ Erotic&Heretic @ JaidynReiman

You forgot Mushroom Kingdom U......

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

@ Erotic&Heretic @ JaidynReiman

You forgot Mushroom Kingdom U......

Nice catch.

It looks similar, but it looks like we can't swim in it, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGQ1BsLlzn8