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There’s a bit of follow-up conversation where I clarified I meant more so that he was a villain and he’d recurred in the series, not that he was a main villain multiple times. Plus the fact that villains/rivals have gotten into Smash series before “core” characters before. I also never said I expect Marx, just a hope.
Sonic: Tails or Knuckles, I wouldn't really care
As someone who frequents just about every Smash-related forum, that's completely incorrect.
I can agree that someone like Magolor or Marx has more for them in the moveset department. But BD having the spear moveset kind of does enough I think.I think it's not that Marx is so darn likely, it's more that Bandanna Dee, despite his popularity, really doesn't have a whole lot going for him moveset-wise. Don't get me wrong; I like him overall. It's just that people push the spear thing as being worth way more than it is. I can see them doing some creative stuff with BD; he could use some of Parasol's cooler moves, they could make him use some of the powerups from more recent Kriby games. But the whole spear thing is played-out; I'm not against it, but we've got no shortage on medieval weaponry. It's really not a push factor. The only unique things I could see them pulling with a spear to differentiate it from a sword or big tail or other disjoints is maybe giving it some kind of a lunge move or a move where he can stand on it while it's pinned to something. Corrin already does both of those things with the Dragon Fang Lance Arm.
That's not to say I deem him an impossible character. He's definitely got popularity, reputation, relevance, and I'd even say history at this point. And like I said, there's plenty they could do with him. But I feel people WAAAAYYY overestimate his likelihood. Marx or Magolor, while not as recognizable, still have an edge on BD moveset-wise in my humble opinion. And they're both popular enough to land a spot as playable characters in Smash at some point. While I'm down for any of them, I just can't help but open my mouth when there are so many people going nutso over BD and I honestly can't tell why.
Honestly, guys. They could just pull a curve-ball on us and add in one of the helpers/allies like Gym, Chili, or Bugzy. Any of those three characters would be recognizable to the vast SuperStar fanbase and have great potential for moves. Not to mention Star Allies cross-promotion. Although I suppose BD and Marx would also count as Star Allies cross-promotion, too.
Honestly, I'm just throwing things out there at this point. We can all do better to keep an open mind. Remember how we all "knew" Chrom would be in Smash? And how Robin was chosen instead? And we were all baffled by how well he fit/how well his moves work in the game? There's no such thing as a shoe-in character. Except for maybe Inkling, but we already know they're in the game.
Interesting how you sorta compare Bandanna Dee's moveset potential with Chrom's. I could see that kind of decision from Sakurai if he were to choose a 4th Kirby candidate. But personally, I do not see a new Kirby character getting in anyway.I think it's not that Marx is so darn likely, it's more that Bandanna Dee, despite his popularity, really doesn't have a whole lot going for him moveset-wise. Don't get me wrong; I like him overall. It's just that people push the spear thing as being worth way more than it is. I can see them doing some creative stuff with BD; he could use some of Parasol's cooler moves, they could make him use some of the powerups from more recent Kriby games. But the whole spear thing is played-out; I'm not against it, but we've got no shortage on medieval weaponry. It's really not a push factor. The only unique things I could see them pulling with a spear to differentiate it from a sword or big tail or other disjoints is maybe giving it some kind of a lunge move or a move where he can stand on it while it's pinned to something. Corrin already does both of those things with the Dragon Fang Lance Arm.
That's not to say I deem him an impossible character. He's definitely got popularity, reputation, relevance, and I'd even say history at this point. And like I said, there's plenty they could do with him. But I feel people WAAAAYYY overestimate his likelihood. Marx or Magolor, while not as recognizable, still have an edge on BD moveset-wise in my humble opinion. And they're both popular enough to land a spot as playable characters in Smash at some point. While I'm down for any of them, I just can't help but open my mouth when there are so many people going nutso over BD and I honestly can't tell why.
Honestly, guys. They could just pull a curve-ball on us and add in one of the helpers/allies like Gym, Chili, or Bugzy. Any of those three characters would be recognizable to the vast SuperStar fanbase and have great potential for moves. Not to mention Star Allies cross-promotion. Although I suppose BD and Marx would also count as Star Allies cross-promotion, too.
Honestly, I'm just throwing things out there at this point. We can all do better to keep an open mind. Remember how we all "knew" Chrom would be in Smash? And how Robin was chosen instead? And we were all baffled by how well he fit/how well his moves work in the game? There's no such thing as a shoe-in character. Except for maybe Inkling, but we already know they're in the game.
Absolutely not.
I am going to say up front, I prefer Marx. That being said, I recognize that Dee is way more likely based on what we know. Now that being said... It's still better than a Pyra censorship debate
Not saying he doesn’t have moveset potential, just that I think some of the other have more. Honestly though, I’ll be pleased if any new Kirby character gets in
Says the person who’s created like a dozen Fire Emblem polls this week
See, the thing is......unless stated otherwise, it is safe to assume that there will be cuts. You can make a case for literally any character not to get cut, but, fact of the matter is, there most likely will be cuts.
I thought most people assumed it began in early 2016 right after Bayonetta's Smash 4 DLC. Why do you think it is late 2016?
I am guilty of the Roy claim, not going to lie. I never knew Roy was that popular.
I am not forcing you to stop to like your characters. Sakurai seemed so firm on his Ridley quote though. I could be wrong, but still. Not everyone instantly drops their big ideas when developing a game.
https://twitter.com/AllSourceGaming/status/972090999479574528
Trust me, both sides been at at each other's throats.Says the person who’s created like a dozen Fire Emblem polls this week
I’ve seen Bandana Dee talk before, but when was Marx brought up in this thread?
why would you wish for less support for a game? that logic makes no sense to me. if you dont like the characters dont get them but sometimes timing and negotiation force alterations to game dev schedules. As long as nintendo does dlc correctly id want them to support this game as long as possible especially since dlc updates give incentive for balancing to be done.
Sigh, I really hope there are no cuts. As much as I would love to have no cuts, you are right about cuts. Maybe it was some kind of coincidence that Cloud did not have much content? Square Enix has been working on Nintendo with more games lately, and I am sure Sakurai and his team will gladly try to appeal to the Final Fantasy fans again by adding Cloud.
The only way I see him ever coming into the game is a clone
Fair enough. I don’t frequent Gamefaqs
Do you think Sakurai would know about the Switch ports being planned like Skyrim to consider some additions for Smash Switch's base roster as a result of development beginning in late 2016?
Don't get me wrong, I'd love for the entire Smash 4 roster to return. Heck, I'd love for everyone to come back, the previously cut characters included.
It's hard to say what he would know and what he wouldn't.
How was including a "third party" like Bayonetta tied in with having to bring back Wolf? Last sentence makes no sense whatsoever. Regardless of whether she was in or not it has nothing to do with him.
I mean. Techically no.
It's a bit silly to think that the only potential cuts will be the three characters with the smallest workload.
Isn't the idea of 'reps' kind of nonsense at this point, though? I don't believe they usually add characters based on how many reps a series has, outside of a few exceptions.
Reps really don't matter.
