Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[CosmicQuark]

I get that harassment is bad and all, and I agree some people are acting like dolts about this, but I genuinely wonder how a lot of people who are complaining about this “toxic atmosphere” would’ve felt being on the wrong side of the ESRB. Because I still stand by that this leak looks like a peace treaty compared to the **** fest that was the ESRB leak

I mean, I think this is real and I complain about the toxic environment, the two are (hopefully to most people) not mutually exclusive. That being said, many of the insiders have responded to aggressive attacks aggressively, though sometimes at the people not being aggressive (people who believe the leak are called stupid, naive, etc. with no qualifications that they're only talking about a vocal minority). Not sure if Push has been arrogant or made sweeping statements like some of the insiders have.

 

[LetterO]

What have I missed? Any updates on the Grinch Leak, or anything else?

 

[ShadowGamer193]

I'm really scared for Roy. At least I'll have Chrom. I've never even heard Japanese Chrom.

I played Awakening with Japanese Audio and then again with English and honestly, both VAs are amazing for him so I wouldn’t mind either way. But Roy and Marth....

 

[Cutie Gwen]

If Japanese Chrom doesn’t say holy **** in broken english at least I’m boycotting this game

Edit: Though, I’m assuming he has young Joseph Joestar’s VA, so just have him say nice

Yeah he's Young Joseph. Old Joseph's VA kinda died this year, I think it was throat cancer

 

[Chrollo.]

Yeah he's Young Joseph. Old Joseph's VA kinda died this year, I think it was throat cancer

Oh **** I didn’t know that, it actually kind makes me sad. He was a good VA with some hilarious moments.

 

[Senselessbreak]

I don't see why Grant Kirkhope not being involved with the game is evidence that Banjo-Kazooie aren't in.

Grant is a freelancer and doesn't work exclusively for Rare; the Smash Bros. team probably hired another composer to do the music, making metal remixes or whatever other style these composers usually use. It's not the first time a composer arranged a cover of a different composer's music in Smash (and I'm sure there's multiple instances of this).

Anyway, I see the leak is still alive and possibly has evidence in its favor?

Its degrees of separation. Gregg Mayles 100% knows whats going on with Banjo as hes a higher up at Rare. Gregg's brother Steve is both the creator of Banjo and works at Playtonic Games with Grant Kirkhope. Gregg 100% knows whats going on. Its very very plausible his brother knows. So if Steve knows is it impossible that Grant would know through association? Grant is extremely close to the source of info.

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Can someone explain the Smashboards anime to me? xD

 

[SmashingXan2]

Banjo will not get animal noises, remember, Bowser Jr. and Yoshi didnt ver animal noises in smash because they neve had animal noises. The characters that did had them in their debut. Banjo never had animal noises, thus he will have his YaHa

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Either PapaGenos is going to look like a saint and all the Insiders are going to be simultaneously BTFO the likes we've ever seen, or theres going to be the biggest "Told ya so" in history and people like PapaGenos will become one of the biggest jokes of this episode arc.

At least this story arc will have been shorter than the Box Theory arc, that one took forever to end.

It can also be because people just want BWD in Smash rather than just some fan quota. Ever think of that?

Yeah man, some/most people genuinely want their characters in, a quota being filled is an arbitrary goal that becomes obsolete anyway.

 

[Kuon]

Its degrees of separation. Gregg Mayles 100% knows whats going on with Banjo as hes a higher up at Rare. Gregg's brother Steve is both the creator of Banjo and works at Playtonic Games with Grant Kirkhope. Gregg 100% knows whats going on. Its very very plausible his brother knows. So if Steve knows is it impossible that Grant would know through association? Grant is extremely close to the source of info.

I thought Banjo-Kazooie was Microsoft now and no longer Rare?

 

[Michele]

What have I missed? Any updates on the Grinch Leak, or anything else?

We're now leaning it toward real. New information is that ACP-PLV has already deleted the video showing the work enviorment so the leak is indeed 100% real now. https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/436781578

 

[Chrollo.]

I mean, I think this is real and I complain about the toxic environment, the two are (hopefully to most people) not mutually exclusive. That being said, many of the insiders have responded to aggressive attacks aggressively, though sometimes at the people not being aggressive (people who believe the leak are called stupid, naive, etc. with no qualifications that they're only talking about a vocal minority). Not sure if Push has been arrogant or made sweeping statements like some of the insiders have.

Oh yeah I don’t want it to come off as I’m excusing the bad behavior because I think its awful too, but its weird seeing people act as if this is a new low for Smash fans when the ESRB leak was a considerably worse time.

 

[Taco Cruise]

Its degrees of separation. Gregg Mayles 100% knows whats going on with Banjo as hes a higher up at Rare. Gregg's brother Steve is both the creator of Banjo and works at Playtonic Games with Grant Kirkhope. Gregg 100% knows whats going on. Its very very plausible his brother knows. So if Steve knows is it impossible that Grant would know through association? Grant is extremely close to the source of info.

If the creator of King K. Rool didn't know about his inclusion, it easily could be the case where only top management at MS knows, though in a perfect world I think it's only courtesy to let the creators of the characters know when they're being used in all cases. It just seems to be the right thing to do, even if it doesn't happen all the time.

 

[Heracr055]

I dont know if Im late.

Apc just removed their promocional viddeo about their offices. One of the "evidencws" we had about the workplace and possible genuity of the leak.

I saw ir in reddit.

Hey guys I don't know if I'm late but the French company that was on the leaker's Linkedin put out a statement that deconfrims the leak

I saw it on Disney channel

 

[LetterO]

We're now leaning it toward real. New information is that ACP-PLV has already deleted the video showing the work enviorment so the leak is indeed 100% real now. https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/436781578

Great news, my hype is flowing back up!

 

[CosmicQuark]

Its degrees of separation. Gregg Mayles 100% knows whats going on with Banjo as hes a higher up at Rare. Gregg's brother Steve is both the creator of Banjo and works at Playtonic Games with Grant Kirkhope. Gregg 100% knows whats going on. Its very very plausible his brother knows. So if Steve knows is it impossible that Grant would know through association? Grant is extremely close to the source of info.

If Steve does know, then his tweet responding to Banjo news could be suspicious--he said it's a shame how things get leaked and he's avoiding it. However, I assume it means nothing, because Steve may not know. Gregg hasn't talked much about Banjo in Smash, as far as I know. I think even Gregg has a non-zero chance of not knowing, but it all depends on how Nintendo works with Microsoft/Rare on it and how secret it's kept.

 

[The_Naraotor]

While I think the leak is real, I don't think this is a good argument. Those stuff can be done, and people are stupid, and management can be stupider. Though, the fact this is *likely* be involved with a studio, similar to studios that do work with game developers on advertisements (though with no known connections) is partly a reason for thinking it's likely in itself. Not by much, though.

You don't know how French compagny works, they can ***** for everything even paper, ink and other stuff. Heck one time at one place job I just borrowed a pen for wrote a report my +1 asked me where the pen came from and if I asked for this pen.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I thought Banjo-Kazooie was Microsoft now and no longer Rare?

Nah, Rare is Microsoft now

 

[Michele]

Great news, my hype is flowing back up!

While I wasn't the first person who found it out about the video, you should skill like me, as I was the one who found the thread in the first place.

 

[Metal Shop X]

We're now leaning it toward real. New information is that ACP-PLV has already deleted the video showing the work enviorment so the leak is indeed 100% real now. https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/436781578

Unless the leak is confirm by official footage, a "leak" can't ever be 100% real, only 99-90% at best.

 

[Untouch]

If Steve does know, then his tweet responding to Banjo news could be suspicious--he said it's a shame how things get leaked and he's avoiding it. However, I assume it means nothing, because Steve may not know. Gregg hasn't talked much about Banjo in Smash, as far as I know. I think even Gregg has a non-zero chance of not knowing, but it all depends on how Nintendo works with Microsoft/Rare on it and how secret it's kept.

He didn't know about K Rool being revealed, I don't he knows here either.

 

[Kuon]

Nah, Rare is Microsoft now

Rare is owned by Microsoft now? Or does Rare no longer exist anymore?

 

[T-Hell]

We're now leaning it toward real. New information is that ACP-PLV has already deleted the video showing the work enviorment so the leak is indeed 100% real now. https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/436781578

No, not really. You gotta learn to be more careful with your wording. I'm on TeamReal but that doesn't make the leak any more real.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

I need a visual on this. Click on the video then look at Banjo.

...I'm not feeling it, and because of that you know Sakurai will go for it.

So would that make Kazooie sound like this?

 

[lightdrago]

Yuri Lowenthal is a great voice actor. The more games I play with him in it, the better.

The real travesty here is Ike’s new English voice actor.

We're now leaning it toward real. New information is that ACP-PLV has already deleted the video showing the work enviorment so the leak is indeed 100% real now. https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/436781578

It really doesn’t.

 

[Chrollo.]

Also, for the record, ACP-PLV could’ve deleted the video because of it being possibly spammed by Smash fans. I haven’t seen the comments myself, but its not out of realm. Of course they could’ve just turned the comments off, but I wouldn’t act as if this is definite evidence.

 

[NabiscoFelt]

Whether this leak is fake or real, the Grinch materials are likely real. There's no reason for them to be faked, since neither ACP or Marina have any visible connection to the movie. I'm not really sure why people keep saying Marina does, neither Universal or Illumination is mentioned on their website.

So either a faker had access to legit Grinch materials, or ACP has an unstated project with the Grinch movie.

 

[Taco Cruise]

Hey guys I don't know if I'm late but the French company that was on the leaker's Linkedin put out a statement that deconfrims the leak

If you're talking about Marina you are very late to the party, he hasn't worked there since 2016 and the new company is where the leak came from (ACP)

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

Noipoi been making avatars for people? Been seeing a lot of them in his art style

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Rare is owned by Microsoft now? Or does Rare no longer exist anymore?

Rare still exists, it's just owned by Microsoft and almost all the original employees left. They're mostly at Playtonic iirc, and made Yooka Laylee

 

[CosmicQuark]

He didn't know about K Rool being revealed, I don't he knows here either.

I do think that's different, since Nintendo owns King K Rool, whereas Rare, where he works, does own Banjo. But, indeed, it all depends on how secret it's kept (if it's happening). One interesting thing is after this is revealed, either way, we could have some interesting insights.

 

[Michele]

Yuri Lowenthal is a great voice actor. The more games I play with him in it, the better.

The real travesty here is Ike’s new English voice actor.



It really doesn’t.

While it really doesn't confirm it all true, why would the company still take down the video? It's really weird since it's also a point of presentation

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Can someone explain the Smashboards anime to me? xD

Well, Noipoi is preparing a key art for it, that much I'm sure of.

 

[osby]

Yuri Lowenthal is a great voice actor. The more games I play with him in it, the better.

The real travesty here is Ike’s new English voice actor.

I agree about Yuri Lowenthal being great at his job, but I think he's main character voices tend to have less range compared to Hikaru Midorikawa. That's just me though.

And it's not like Ike ever had a good English voice in Smash.

Noipoi been making avatars for people? Been seeing a lot of them in his art style

He draw a few people in here in his style and they just used those as icons. It's cute, actually.

 

[Chrollo.]

Rare still exists, it's just owned by Microsoft and almost all the original employees left. They're mostly at Playtonic iirc, and made Yooka Laylee

Rare at this point is just a Pirate Propaganda Studio

 

[T-Hell]

Well, Noipoi is preparing a key art for it, that much I'm sure of.

Inb4 Noipoi was behind the leak all this time. He drew it all!

 

[Untouch]

Whether this leak is fake or real, the Grinch materials are likely real. There's no reason for them to be faked, since neither ACP or Marina have any visible connection to the movie. I'm not really sure why people keep saying Marina does, neither Universal or Illumination is mentioned on their website.

So either a faker had access to legit Grinch materials, or ACP has an unstated project with the Grinch movie.

Unfortunately any search of the grinch or ACP just brings up smash stuff now, but I can't see anywhere where they state they're working with companies.
Our only source of what companies they work with comes from finished products, so we won't find out until they update that page, if they ever do.

 

[ShadowGamer193]

“Prepare yourself”

“Prepare yourself”

 

[Guh-Huzzah!]

I agree about Yuri Lowenthal being great at his job, but I think he's main character voices tend to have less range compared to Hikaru Midorikawa. That's just me though.

And it's not like Ike ever had a good English voice in Smash.

Oh boy we talking about voice actors? I’m actually one which is cool I guess. *cough* ok my opinion.
Honestly I think all the voice actors for smash did a great job. Not a single voice I didn’t like. Wish I could do voices like theirs lol.

 

[Deleted member]

Rare is making a new Battletoads game at the moment, i think.