Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[NintenZ]

IMO everyone on both sides should just be more accepting of others’ standpoints.

Whether you’re commenting or complaining, just leave people be and enjoy the ride, it will make things all the more better, trust me.

 

[Idon]

As far as I'm concerned K.Rool is plenty unique. A super heavyweight with projectile tricks.

Ike coulda been the first heavyweight swordsman with a projectile...

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Found this Banjo leak from a month ago that has apparent voice files of him and his victory theme: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76992342

They seemed to be ripped from the N64 game... (yes, I understand Sonic had his ripped from Sonic 06, but that was due to time constraints)

 

[staindgrey]

Found this Banjo leak from a month ago that has apparent voice files of him and his victory theme: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76992342

I read these poorly made fake leaks and just think, "Guys. It's not that hard to make this **** believable."

I seriously think I should hop on the bandwagon and make one that can't be immediately debunked for plain bad storytelling alone.

 

[Opossum]

Yeah, he looks he'll play like nobody else, I just ranting because his fandom kinda overblown his moveset potential prior to his reveal.

Look man, it's pretty easy to tell you have some sort of vendetta against Ridley and K. Rool. It shows in a lot of your posts.

But like, just tone it down some. It's getting kinda toxic.

 

[Curious Villager]

>I says that for me K.Rool kit look kinda bland and Meh.
>Swarm of people jumping from the wood defending their Characters integrity as if I insulted their family

Yo, quote me where I said K.Rool looks like **** badly represented or whatever?

I just said that after reading so much stuff about K.rool during the Ballot era, seeing that into action wasn't as mind blowing as I thought it was and in the end he looked like a simple Character.
I like gimmicky Characters in fighting games, Zeku in SFV/ Noctis in Tekken/ Cloud/Robin in Smash 4

As far as I know y'all getting pumped as if I said he wasn't worth being here. I just said he's a simple Character. Nothing bad about that.

Yeah I feel like some people are getting a bit too bend out of shape about some fans being a bit underwhelmed about how K.Rool turned out. I don't think anyone's saying that K.Rool is a bad inclusion or that he didn't deserve to be in the game, just that after all the hype surrounding him and what he could bring, that the end result was a bit lacking.

I supported K.Rool too (Although not really to the same extend as most fans admittedly) though I can see where the other side is coming from. Especially if they aren't that familiar with his games and had mostly his fan demand, hype and what they had to say about him to go off of. They where probably expecting a bit more out of the character.

 

[Deleted member]

As far as I’m concerned, K. Rool’s moveset is fine. I don’t see anything wrong with it. If you don’t find interesting, then that’s fine. I don’t care. Aside from Echoes, every character that does have their own moveset is great in their own way.

You all are taking this way too seriously for you own good it’s almost sad.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Nobody has a Neutral Special that works like K. Rool's.

Kirby will.

 

[EnthusedPanda]

It’s unbecoming of any fan base to delight in the misfortune of another, or to wish misfortune on them.

We receive enough animosity from the rest of the FGC. Save your energy.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

What if one of the reasons Sakurai chose Incineroar was because he wanted another super-heavyweight newcomer?

 

[staindgrey]

Nobody has a Neutral Special that works like K. Rool's.

Kirby will.

Goddammit, take your stupid like.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

What if one of the reasons Sakurai chose Incineroar was because he wanted another super-heavyweight newcomer?

Along with the reason being he loves cats although if that was the case why had he never added Meowth to the roster since Melee?

 

[Mariomaniac45213]

Look man, it's pretty easy to tell you have some sort of vendetta against Ridley and K. Rool. It shows in a lot of your posts.

But like, just tone it down some. It's getting kinda toxic.

Exactly he's the only person on this entire site that I "ignore" his toxic and negative posts about anything that's not "relevant" or made within the last 5 years. Really brought me down. Shame as I usually never use the "block or ignore" on any site I go to. But I just couldn't anymore. We can't change what's already done it's time we just accept it and move on. The roster is what it is.

 

[Deleted member]

I dunno about all this moveset nonsense, but I think we can all agree that a Seth-like character would be real good.

Shoutouts to all my Seth mains from SF4.

 

[Deleted member]

Found this Banjo leak from a month ago that has apparent voice files of him and his victory theme: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76992342

Oh boy! I datamined the demo and then it crumbled to dust round 2: Gothitelle Boogaloo!

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I dunno about all this moveset nonsense, but I think we can all agree that a Seth-like character would be real good.

Shoutouts to all my Seth mains from SF4.

Seth? But I don't want another Fire Emblem character!

It’s unbecoming of any fan base to delight in the misfortune of another, or to wish misfortune on them.

We receive enough animosity from the rest of the FGC. Save your energy.

Oh please, competitive Smash needs to prove it's not a joke cause I can guarantee stage morphing will be banned despite being very controllable and we'll still get like 5 stages seen despite the hazard toggle due to the counterpick system not working

 

[Wyoming]

Yeah, he looks he'll play like nobody else, I just ranting because his fandom kinda overblown his moveset potential prior to his reveal.

He got a counter that he never used, but his subordinates did. He could have gotten a ground pound with shockwaves instead, which was my vision for a down B.

Otherwise he got everything people wanted, and he's fully unique because of it. So...no?

 

[Deleted member]

Seth? But I don't want another Fire Emblem character!

Real talk, the recent Fire Emblem track should've been a remix from Thracia 776. Show these "FE fans" what a REAL FE game is.

 

[Ura]

I never expected there to be the last Smash Direct this month (I mean before DLC and all). Always figured it would be in early November.

Though there is evidence to believe there's going to be a Robin-esque reveal this month.

 

[Deleted member]

At times it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. People are told they're bad, so they don't play them because they're "bad".

At the same time, as the meta develops, it becomes very clear by tourney results which characters are the best.

It’s also bad for the “bad” characters, as they are considered unviable, so they don’t get played, which means their meta can’t advance, keeping them in the low tier on an endless cycle.

 

[Union of Darkness]

Oh please, competitive Smash needs to prove it's not a joke cause I can guarantee stage morphing will be banned despite being very controllable and we'll still get like 5 stages seen despite the hazard toggle due to the counterpick system not working

All stages have Battlefield and FD variants that are identical. At the very least we'll have varied backgrounds and music.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Real talk, the recent Fire Emblem track should've been a remix from Thracia 776. Show these "FE fans" what a REAL FE game is.

The fact the Coliseum medly didn't have Thracia's attack theme is a crime

 

[ZephyrZ]

Seth? But I don't want another Fire Emblem character!

Agreed we really don't need Seth. With his mobility, power, and a spammable projetile in his signature Javelin throw, he'd be broken for sure. Trying to accurately represent his character would make him Bayonetta-tier!

FE: Hero's depiction of Seth is a crime.

Along with the reason being he loves cats although if that was the case why had he never added Meowth to the roster since Melee?

Because we already had Mewtwo to fill Sakurai's arbitrary kitty cat agenda.

It’s also bad for the “bad” characters, as they are considered unviable, so they don’t get played, which means their meta can’t advance, keeping them in the low tier on an endless cycle.

I'm having flashbacks to pre-Abadango Smash 4 Mewtwo.

 

[Deleted member]

What if one of the reasons Sakurai chose Incineroar was because he wanted another super-heavyweight newcomer?

If that were the case, he could have picked a number of the Alola Pokémon to fit that role. :V

Honestly, the main reason Sakurai would pick Incineroar is the heel wrestler fighting style.


This is all Sakurai would need.

EDIT: Image not working, but it's a cleaner version of the leaked concept art (which sadly, doesn't contain the reference to Asian mist).

 

[Deleted member]

Real talk, the recent Fire Emblem track should've been a remix from Thracia 776. Show these "FE fans" what a REAL FE game is.

Confronting Alvis/Arvis please. In fact, can we just replace Robin with Alvis?

 

[NintenZ]

All stages have Battlefield and FD variants that are identical. At the very least we'll have varied backgrounds and music.

People will probably just ignore them tbh, which is stupid but it has to be this way for some reason. (Even though they’re literally all balanced)

 

[Blade of Evil's Bane]

Kirby will.

Lol! I wonder if... yeah someone did it already:

Spoiler: King Kirby Rool

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

The fact the Coliseum medly didn't have Thracia's attack theme is a crime

The fact Guile's Theme wasn't in 4 is an even bigger crime, really.

 

[Deleted member]

Confronting Alvis/Arvis please. In fact, can we just replace Robin with Alvis?

Anything for Fire Emblem to finally not have a ****ing sword-user. I had hope with Robin and just can't deal with the Levin Sword play-style sometimes.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Confronting Alvis/Arvis please. In fact, can we just replace Robin with Alvis?

Ok but then you need to set a Robin amiibo on fire

Agreed we really don't need Seth. With his mobility, power, and a spammable projetile in his signature Javelin throw, he'd be broken for sure. Trying to accurately represent his character would make him Bayonetta-tier!

FE: Hero's depiction of Seth is a crime.

Because we already had Mewtwo to fill Sakurai's arbitrary kitty cat agenda.

I'm having flashbacks to pre-Abadango Smash 4 Mewtwo.

The reason FE Seth came to mind is because he's ****ing disgusting lmao

All stages have Battlefield and FD variants that are identical. At the very least we'll have varied backgrounds and music.

That's true I suppose, but considering we have viable stage layouts because of the hazard toggle. I fear everything will just become a counterpick and nobody will play them beause it's what happened for 4

 

[staindgrey]

Real talk, the recent Fire Emblem track should've been a remix from Thracia 776. Show these "FE fans" what a REAL FE game is.

Real talk, Awakening still has the best top-to-bottom soundtrack. It's so ****ing good.

But yes. Any FE pre-3DS is horribly underappreciated.

 

[Diem]

It’s also bad for the “bad” characters, as they are considered unviable, so they don’t get played, which means their meta can’t advance, keeping them in the low tier on an endless cycle.

Yeah, wasn't Bowser considered garbage in Smash 4 until Nairo showed up to a tournament with him and just mopped the floor with everybody, because he was the only one who decided to really dig into the character and find out what he's capable of, and no one knew how to counter it?

I have a feeling that R.O.B. might be a more competitive character if some of the better players put time into learning him, but he is a weird character both in gameplay and origin, so he doesn't appeal to many people the same way other top-tier characters do.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Because we already had Mewtwo to fill Sakurai's arbitrary kitty cat agenda.

Mewtwo's not really a cat though he's only cat-like.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Welp, rip playlist theory. At least spambot theory is still alive

That died yesterday

Besides the update and new disappearing still means we are close to character 69 maybe not this week maybe the next

Or maybe just a phase to get ready for the November direct

 

[Pakky]

I dunno about all this moveset nonsense, but I think we can all agree that a Seth-like character would be real good.

Shoutouts to all my Seth mains from SF4.

Tabuu?

Wait, that's wrong right?

 

[Union of Darkness]

People will probably just ignore them tbh, which is stupid but it has to be this way for some reason. (Even though they’re literally all balanced)

I wouldn't be so sure. The reason FD variants aren't used in 4 is because they aren't the same. Literally no reason to not use them now that they're identical. All you need to do is press a button and it's done.

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

It’s also bad for the “bad” characters, as they are considered unviable, so they don’t get played, which means their meta can’t advance, keeping them in the low tier on an endless cycle.

the only way to solve this is consistent, competitive focused, balance patches. Nerfs and Buffs are the only way to artificially shake up the meta and push players into lower tier characters.

Then there's the natural way to shake up the meta, aka the Melee method, which is let the community play the game for a decade until some one trick figures out how to be godtier with their midtier character ala Armada, Axe, Hbox, Amsa, Wobbles

 

[ZephyrZ]

Mewtwo's not really a cat though he's only cat-like.

Well that's because I was joking.

"Sakurai's cat" is a bit of a meme. We know he likes it but I seriously doubt that has a signifact impact on his roster picks.

 

[Fastblade5035]

Real talk, Awakening still has the best top-to-bottom soundtrack. It's so ****ing good.

But yes. Any FE pre-3DS is horribly underappreciated.

I'd argue that Fates edges out Awakening barely, but yes, they're both amazing. Two of my all time favorite OSTS without a doubt

where the **** is my fates music in smash we dont need more lost in thoughts remixes

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Well that's because I was joking.

"Sakurai's cat" is a bit of a meme. We know he likes it but I seriously doubt that has a signifact impact on his roster picks.

Whelp looks like the joke went over my head...