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LOL! Do you have side-to-side comparison shots to prove this? :-)
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Dat sunset on the Marth pic
The older Pokémon games/material had a fatter Pikachu. But the latest versions just have skinnier one, which they made him look like for Smash 4. The render beside the Smash 4 render is from Pokédex 3D.
Also, the difference in polygon count is actually quite huge. Even with a HD texture hack applied to Brawl, it pales in comparison to Smash 4:
You're right - it WAS plumper! :-O I have to say, I think it looks better now, with some flab shed.
The older Pokémon games/material had a fatter Pikachu. But the latest versions just have skinnier one, which they made him look like for Smash 4. The render beside the Smash 4 render is from Pokédex 3D.
Also, the difference in polygon count is actually quite huge. Even with a HD texture hack applied to Brawl, it pales in comparison to Smash 4:
Look at his hair, his back elbow, the sword hilt, and his front sleeve. All are way more cleaned up.
I don't think those specific details are the results of a vastly increased polygon count, though - but rather lightning and sharper textures.
It's still pretty blocky IMO. :-P
Her butt is much more round is all I'm getting from this lolI don't think those specific details are the results of a vastly increased polygon count, though - but rather lightning and sharper textures.
It's still pretty blocky IMO. :-P
Now look at this:
The only character who got a serious increase in polygons in Zero Suit Samus! :-D
Her hair looks much better too, but that's because of resolution and textures, not polygons.
Exactly. And that's because they put a lot more polygons to her butt this time around. If they just stretched it with the same amount of polys it would look blocky, but it doesn't - they increased the polygon count and the amount of lovely, female butt fat.
The textures can only look sharper because of increased polygon count... without extra polygons, it would still be jagged. ZSS on the other hand was much smoother to begin with, so the extra polygons don't show so much as the enhanced shaders and textures, maybe you have the two backwards? And dynamic hair is only possible through more polygons, the flat hair is caused by low polygon count, while the volumetric hair is because it is actually multiple strands of hair.I don't think those specific details are the results of a vastly increased polygon count, though - but rather lightning and sharper textures.
It's still pretty blocky IMO. :-P
Now look at this:
The only character who got a serious increase in polygons in Zero Suit Samus! :-D
Her hair looks much better too, but that's because of resolution and textures, not polygons.
Why not have the best of both worlds, eh? ;-D
I may not be explaining it well, but I'm sure what I mean is correct
The game is still in development as well, so.
I really hope their priority is a steady 60 fps, and from there they're trying to optimize the engine as much as possible.
I believe there's about 80085
Help me count the polygons, OK? 1, 2 ,3, 4, 5...
Your signature fits what your quote says well.
Heh eh, I see what you did there, good one! :-P
Eyes not as anime-ish doesn't feel right for characters like Marth, IMO.
Ahem....
Help me count the polygons, OK? 1, 2 ,3, 4, 5...
IMO they're still anime-ish, but they're generally better shaped.
It doesn't look that great, but it's the best looking Smash game we've had yet IMO. Even relative to the time it was released. This is the first time I've been satisfied with the way almost every character model looks. And some characters just look flat out amazing (Marth, ZSS, Dedede, Sonic, Lucario, Pit, Mega Man, Pikachu, Kirby).
It is the best looking Smash we've had yeah -- but that's expected. Why would it look worse on new better hardware? The jump though, isnt as impressive to me as the jump between Melee and Brawl though.
But this is a thread for graphics and character models - how can it be inappropriate? That's like saying the character Zero Suit Samus herself is "inappropriate" by the way she looks.
It's the breast and butt jokes. It's kinda offenseive to some people that that's the only part of her they care about.
No, see, its a comparison thread. We're comparing graphics from Brawl to Smash 4. We're comparing the improvement as a whole, and the new things such as texture, polygon improvement, environment detail, lighting mechanics. Character wise, Samus does look better. But you're taking it too far by objectifying. Frankly, you do this in EVERY thread you post in, and TWO of them have already been locked. You need to be mature with your posts. When people discuss other characters, you certainly don't see them discussing things like that, but they COULD. They choose not to because this isn't the place for it. You have private messaging for that. Regardless, you're going to ignore what I say and counter argue, and you need to save your energy. I can't force you to stop, but I'm asking you to consider the feelings/views of the other members of this forum before you post.
Its just the focus and jokes period.
Mic_128
"Samus has boobs and a butt. Get over it."
This thread is about all the characters, not just one. Let's not completely derail this thread by acting like we're still in middle school.
I never ignore what people are saying, but that doesn't mean I necessarely agree. I have no plans to continue discussing the beauty of the Zero Suit Samus model in this thread, but of what already has been said has been about the improvement of her body - which is her model.
That's like saying "The characters have polygons and textures - get over it" without going deeper into discussion about polygons and textures. He made a very typical, cliché comment there, I think.To quote @
I'm not going to continue this here, but these kind of comments are really unnecessary, you know. You don't become more "mature" because you keep ignoring sex appeal on the character models. It has nothing to do with being mature or childish, it's about interest.
You don't have to agree with anything, but when you post on a public forum, you have a merit of the consideration of others. I'm telling you its offensive. Why must you counter that?
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did you not see this? You can appreciate the model but you don't have to objectify. It's rude and offensive. If you appreciate the model, discuss the richer, finer details. Like the detail in her Plasma Gun/Whip or the amazing effects of her jet heels. No, it applies. For example, we're talking about how the polygons in the models have all increast vastly. But then you go and say
Ignoring the creeper talk, ALL of the characters have had increased polygons, and Zamus has had this happen over ALL of her, not just her bottom.
Gameboi834
) are obsessing over the fact she has breasts and buttocks. We get it. She has them. 
