Smash 4 Ver. 1.08 Patch Thread [MOVE TO NEW THREAD]

[Sacrosanct]

Any word on DDD and suited samus changes?

 

[Myran]

Olimar's FSmash seems to have a slight damage nerf, at lease with purples. Anyone confirm?

That isn't true.

 

[SapphSabre777]

Confirming no more Quickstone for Kirby, sourspot (Up) F-Smash does 1% less damage.

Also confirming from my end that his pummel is nerfed, 1.55% -> 1.5% (20 pummels = 30%, not 31%), and I'd like someone to check on his F-Smash, it may have more endlag, or I may have placebo.

EDIT: Pummel is the same, my bad. Blame the cruddy Training Mode thing telling me that it was 30%, and blame me for not looking down.

 

[Katakiri]

Is Charizard's back air still the same? Heard it was faster or something

As far as I can tell, B-Air was unchanged

 

[ElectricBlade]

Mewtwo is still the same weight ;-; he still dies at 64% from a Marth F-smash

 

[WRECK-IT MUNDO]

No changes to Wario. (but i still think his jabs are faster?)

 

[Funtroon]

How about Zelda? Any changes to her?

 

[Shog]

RIP in Pepperonis 2k14 - Bananas

Charizard will welcome you, and Seismic Toss you 7


NO seriously: Did Diddy Kong deserved that nerfs? Why can't they instead BUFF characters, nerfs always feel worse in my opinion...

 

[Jaguar360]

Actually, it does .5% more, as last patch it was 6.5%.

Otherwise, he's unchanged AFAIK.

Seems to do 7.3% damage now. Used it ten times in Training mode and came up to 73%. Love this buff! :3

 

[Dumbfire]

How about Zelda? Any changes to her?

Yes:

CURRENTLY CONFIRMED CHANGE LIST

Up Smash​

[+] The BKB of the final hit was increased slightly. As a result the move KOs roughly 20% earlier.

Neutral Aerial​

[=] The damage numbers for the loop hits were switched; the front loop hits do 2% each now, and the back ones do 1% each.

Nayru's Love [Neutral B]​

[-] The ability to get an aerial momentum boosted Nayru by running off an edge and using Nayru's at the right moment has been removed. Zelda now either only sticks to the edge or floats at normal momentum.

From here.

 

[TheLippyLapras]

Ch-Charizard got buffed? MY LIZARD GOT BUFFED?!!?!??!

 

[Donkeykong98123]

Every one of DKs throws got buffed.
Aerial Down Throw makes him hop a little bit, so if he tries to stage spike with Dthrow, he can edgeguard afterwards if they might come back. Grounded Cargo Dthrow deals more knock back. Aerial Cargo Dthrow also got a huge knockback buff, this now kills off stage at around 130ish.
Uthrow got buffed by 3%. Knockback MAY have gotten buffed(can't uthrow uair mario at 50%) but I'm not sure. Don't take my word on that one.
Aerial Backthrow lag got massively reduced. Stage spike starts working at around 80ish with no risk of dying(any early and they just pop back up on the stage.) Not sure about other stuff, still more testing to do.
Forward Throw MAY have gotten a % increase, don't take my word for that one either though.

 

[Nidtendofreak]

Ike's Fair hitbox has been buffed. Hits above him better according to the Ike boards, confirmed by San and Renegade.

 

[BJN39]

Yes:

From here.

Thank you for posting this here.

Btw @ TheReflexWonder all 3 of the currently confirmed Zelda changes were tested on 2 3DSs side-by-side for clarity.

 

[Spinosaurus]

nvm no changes as far as I can tell.

 

[AGES]

Can someone check PacMan?

Haven't tested too much but hydrant no longer glitches through platforms(used the fair bair setup)

 

[ItoI6]

mk changes confirmed by me

ftilt does 8% instead of 7% and knocks at a lower angle with more knockback.

jab finishers cooldown cut signficiantly

nairs landing lag cut nearly in half

cooldown on first hit of ftilt and 2nd hit of ftilt lowered significantly

 

[J_the_Man]

Currently trying to reproduce Mario Circuit Wii U glitch... So far unsuccessful. Perhaps its a placebo, but when the stage transitions away from the ceiling transition, it almost instantaneously begins moving preventing someone from getting trapped in the ceiling. They just get stage spiked.

 

[Sacrosanct]

I feel like ddd's landing lag is reduced

 

[san.]

Ike so far: http://smashboards.com/threads/ike-e3-patch-changes-discussion.406208/

Confirmed:
>Ftilt:startup 15 frames -> ~12 frames, damage reduced: 14%->12%. Ftilt's old sourspot did 12% up close, so it's overall a buff IMO.
>Dash attack: startup reduced and damage increased: Sweet spot: 10%->14%. Sour spot: 7%->11% and 5%->9%
>Nair: Less landing lag by a few frames
>Aether: The suction properties were tweaked in some way.
>Fair: Hitbox better follows visual animation. Hits better above and below him.

Unconfirmed(likely):
>Uthrow has less ending lag. Can combo more easily into aerials.
>Jab combo is sped up

Unconfirmed (dubious):
>Quick Draw startup reduced
>Utilt has more lingering hitboxes
>Nair has a faster startup

 

[FalconXD]

Does anyone know if ROB got changed at all?

 

[Venks]

I compiled all of Little Mac's percentage changes in 1.08. Didn't look for range/speed increases. I'll leave that for someone else.

Little Mac got a lot of buffs this time around. I'm happy. :D

 

[J_the_Man]

Ceiling Glitch in Mario Circuit Wii U still exists.

 

[Xinc]

Any changes to our man Ganon?

 

[Sacrosanct]

Just played a bit of ganon. Did they improve his horizontal jump distance?

 

[Myran]

All Olimar damage %s remain unchanged. I can confirm that the Pikmin lineup becoming reversed after ledge grab has been removed. Lineup remains the same every time the ledge is grabbed. Most likely an update to Pikmin AI. Will test the nitty gritty of the character later when I have someone to help.

 

[R0Y]

Palutena is the same weight, Marth's now extremely powerful Utilt kills Palutena before it kills Marth. She is still lighter than him.

Sorry, I might be wrong. She just felt heavier to me.

 

[RedCap-BlueSpikes]

Palutena's U-tilt seems to have bigger hitboxes and/or it links properly. Before, if she used it while standing a slight distance away from Fox (about the width of Fox's model) he would fall out of it. Now, he gets sucked all the way in and every hit connects. IIRC it used to whiff on Kirby/Jiggs if they were standing next to her but now it hits 'em. It also does 1% more damage.

 

[Mr.Sile]

Any changes to or ?

 

[adom4]

Ganon didn't seem to recieve ane changes.

 

[Aki]

I think DDD's backthrow kills later now. Can't say that with 100% certainty but I tried it on a Mario in Training Mode on FD and he just wouldn't die until ******** percentages. Either knockback growth was changed or the angle (more horizontal) or I am just imagining things. Didn't notice anything else. (Did dtilt always do 10%?)

 

[Ogopogo]

Quick attack canceling on platforms feels different now. Where is esam?

I feel the same. It still exists though; maybe only possible at the end of the zip?

 

[Xeze]

Any changes to Mario?

 

[mariobros612]

Swordfighter's tornado gets many more hits in.

 

[RoachCake]

There's a new added amiibo menu for the regular 3DS now in the "Games & More" area.
Requires one of those NFC reader things that aren't released yet.

Edit: Oh that's cool, the bottom screen shows an amiibo and it changes whenever you go into different menus an stuff.

 

[Solreth]

Preliminary testing of mac shows SIGNIFICANT reduction of deadzone off of smashes, primarily forward and upangled-forward

 

[Kofu]

I think DDD's backthrow kills later now. Can't say that with 100% certainty but I tried it on a Mario in Training Mode on FD and he just wouldn't die until ******** percentages. Either knockback growth was changed or the angle (more horizontal) or I am just imagining things. Didn't notice anything else. (Did dtilt always do 10%?)

According to my testing from a few patches ago, with Dedede standing at the spawn point on 3DS's FD in training mode BThrow would kill Mario at 205%. Does it kill later than that now?

DTilt always did 10%.

 

[Aki]

According to my testing from a few patches ago, with Dedede standing at the spawn point on 3DS's FD in training mode BThrow would kill Mario at 205%. Does it kill later than that now?

DTilt always did 10%.

I think the blast zones on Wii U and 3DS are different but I kill a Mario from the spawning point on FD at 195% with a back throw. I know I usually kill much earlier than that against real people but I guess that's because of DI.

 

[Lost_Taco]

Question, why aren't confirmed patch notes being compiled in the OP?

 

[Zarxrax]

Preliminary testing of mac shows SIGNIFICANT reduction of deadzone off of smashes, primarily forward and upangled-forward

What do you mean by deadzone?