TheDivineDeity
Banned via Administration
Alright, no need to get your panties in a bunch. Here is my response.
I can't really support your roster or even award points, but I can give suggestions
Removals
Hades- Medusa would make more sense, but we probably won't get anybody besides Palutena.
Slippy- As deserving as Slippy is, we don't need a 4th Fox Semi-Clone or any other Star Fox Characters. Besides 4 Star Fox Characters is too many.
Black Shadow- Unless he has moves different enough from Ganondorf
Zoroark- There's really no reason to have him over Mewtwo unless your goal is to have a Pokemon that hasn't been a veteran. It's just Lucario is more popular and people like him way better.
Dark Link- It's already a costume, make Toon Link DLC, or better: Replace Vaati with Toon Link I'll concede this point.
Dark Pit- It's already a costume, there's no reason to have someone if they can be a costume. Bullcrap on this, Dark Pit isn't just another color variation of Pit - he's an entirely separate character within different movesets and characteristics. Go read Dark Pit's discussion guide.
Dark Samus- It can easily be a costume, probably should town down on the Dark characters. Same as Dark Pit, although I feel Metroid could use, at most, 3 representatives. Besides, it's not my official roster prediction, just DLC, which may not even happen.
Lloyd- You have 2 Namco reps, you can't have 2 Third-Parties from the same company. Also Sakurai has stated Namco characters aren't getting any special treatment for working on the game. So I think Pac-Man is kind of unlikely too. He's more iconic as an arcade classic than he is in his modern titles. I just don't see Pac-Man in a SSB title.
Dillon- Dillon should be an assist trophy or a sticker. I know his games sold well on the eShop, I don't think he warrants a playable spot. You can represent characters without them having to be playable. SmashChu has an interesting read about Dillon's inclusion.
Impa- Really no reason she should get in over Sheik, it makes more sense to have Zelda transform into Sheik because Sheik IS Zelda. Were does Zelda go when she transforms into Sheik. I don't think Impa served a major role in the series, she's Zelda's servant, Zelda should have the major characters of the series. Link: The protagonist, Zelda: The princess in the title, Ganondorf: The main villian of the series, and Toon Link: The younger version of the hero that also represents the beloved Toon titles. So instead of allowing Zelda to evolve into something of her own with Impa, a more recent character with the potential of uniqueness and desirability, we should just keep an overrated and outdated ****** disguise of Sheik, whose prime has passed significantly a long time ago.I understand that Sheik may have a chance with the recent OoT reboot on the 3DS, and stay relevant, but to keep the Zelda series from advancing to its next stage (Skyward Sword) and keep ourselves stuck in the past (OoT), is wrong on many levels.
I understand old-schoolness has its place in within other series, like Ice Climbers or Game and Watch, but Zelda the character (and series) isn't going to remain an outdated character for the rest of eternity just because of ONE other transformation. It's unfair. It's like forcing Link to remain the OoT version forever, instead of SS. Besides, Impa appeared in far more games as a character than Sheik. Impa has a worthy presence, and can mesh better with Zelda as a character who can play alongside her, not have Sheik take all the glory.
We need to move on, because it's going to happen eventually. Truth hurts.
Shadow Mario- I just don't think that's gonna happen. And Bowser Jr is fine on his own.
Toad- You need to pick between Bowser Jr, Paper Mario, and Toad. You have too many Mario characters. For all we know, Sakurai can choose 2 out of the three. For my money's worth, I'd say Toad is most deserving.
4th Third Party- 4 (well 5 because you have Lloyd) third parties is too many, Nintendo characters need to be prioritized. You can't remove Ness, Lucas, and Ike for frikin Pac-Man.
Geno- That's never gonna happen and he has no reason to be in Smash (kind of ironic considering you like to remove characters because you think they're "irrelevant") Again, it's DLC, and again, it's unlikely. But Geno has a huge fanbase that wants to play as him, regardless of relevancy. You can't say the same for Ness or Lucas.
Additions:
Ike - add him back because there is no way Chrom is gonna get in over him. Ike is the second most popular lord of all time and has 2 installments unlike the rest (with the exception of Marth & Leif) You can keep Chrom just bring back Ike. Nobody wants him to leavea and there aren't any reasons for him to leave. And Chrom being in the latest title isn't a reason to replace someone. I like Ike, but so far a pattern suggests Fire Emblem gets both Marth and another character who had a game recently. If Sakurai said he was possibly going to have cuts, then obviously a transitional character like Ike will get the cut. I'd rather have Roy than Ike, however, if it were to happen.
JigglyPuff - having 5 Pokemon reps this time is very likely. Maybe add her, Lucario, or Kalos Trainer. 2 Pokemon trainers is too much, although it'd be cool.
Little Mac - He shouldn't be DLC Alright, I admit, I should have considered him roster worthy. But then I would love to have King Hippo as well, even if unlikely it is to happen.
Issac/Matthew - You need to pick one, you can't have both
Ness and/or Lucas - I don't know why the discontinuation of the Mother series leads you to believe Sakurai would remove one of Nintendo's best and most popular franchises. Mother wasn't erased from existence and neither is the impact it had on us gamers, people love EarthBound and there is no way in hell they'd be removed. Mother is never going to be irrelevant, heck they even released it on the Wii U eShop. What on earth are you talking about??? You declared it as "The truth of the matter" in which case you may need a reality check, NOBODY is going to get over it and NOBODY wants Dillon, Lloyd, or frikin Pac-Man over the EarthBound reps.
Mii - Not gonna single customization to one character. Mii has plenty of his own moves from Wii Sports, Wii Party, and StreetPass Quest. The Mii is an obvious choice to join the roster, whether you like it or not. Sakurai talks about customization, so might as well have the mother of all customization in the Mii. It's the mascot of Nintendo. Honestly, and I'm speaking the truth here, if the Miis showed up much earlier than Brawl, they would've showed up already. What a waste for Nintendo to include Mario as a mascot, and not the Miis.
You need to learn that can't just remove characters because you think they're outdated and irrelevant, that's not how it works. Also there was never a TP version of Sheik so who says there can't be a SS one. Also it's unlikely we will get SS Zelda because they version of Link we currently have in SSB4 isn't entirely SS and there is no SS Ganondorf. And if SS Zelda means you have to remove Sheik than it's not worth it. Yes it is, like it or not. Ganondorf can stay as himself because OoT 3DS is fairly recent, giving him relevance. Zelda, on the other hand, has had more character development and transformation. TP Zelda is very template like, and therefor can copy-and-paste Sheik there. But SS Zelda is different! She has more personality and involvement in the storyline, so to **** over Impa in favor of the outdated ****** Sheik makes NO SENSE. SS version of Zelda with SS version of Sheik is illogical, because Impa is already there to provide the role. No need for Sheik anymore. Sorry.
and STOP calling series "irrelevant" you even called Fire Emblem irrelevant, did you forget about the game that came out a couple months ago? You do know what irrelevant means. Comparing Fire Emblem's impact to Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, Icarus, etc. is RIDICULOUS. Irrelevant series with little to no impact, compared to Xenoblade or Project X. Therefor, irrelevant.
and the current pattern isn't just Marth and the new coming lord, Roy is in the coding of Brawl, and there is plenty of room for a third Fire Emblem rep. You just removed the second most popular one of all time. Also Marth Ike and Roy being awesome is not why Fire Emblem is playable in SSB.LOL, says the guy who says removing Ike is stupid because he's popular. They were only in the game in the first place to promote a recent WTF Japanese title. Now they've stayed because of their popularity in Smash (which does not mean popularity outside of it).
I suggest you stop posting "OMG" and "LOL" and all of your thoughts as facts as almost none of them are true at all. And you don't have the authority to declare a character useless, irrelevant, undesired, or even remove them. Neither do you, by that logic.
Not to be mean, but I hate it. I'm only saying that because you asked us if we did. Hope you don't take anything I said as rude, it's kind of hard for me to tell what people take as rude especially when it's in text. Whatever, I don't mind.
I like it, just not so much the addition of Giriham.
What's so funny bout Bumbermon?
He's one of the most popular Third-Parties ever, with the most affiliation with Nintendo. Not to mention he was recently acquired by Konami, which should heighten his chances assuming Third-Parties from Brawl don't return. It makes more sense than Snake who mostly got in because of a friend request. For all you know Sakurai probably WANTS Bomberman in SSB, it wouldn't surprise me. I wouldn't be so quick to shun him just because he's owned Konami (which should make him more popular than ever before.)
Like I said, most games that have guest characters don't have them return. If any game does that it should be smash due to a limited roster and the priority of Nintendo Characters. So you have no reason to shun Bomberman other than the assumption that the 2 Third-Parties will return.
