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About that Stage Hazard in Pyrospear could that be Meta Ridley. btw whats the difference between Ridley and Meta Ridley?
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No its not. Meta Ridley is just Ridley with mechanical parts added to him to aid in regeneration. He literally is the same Ridley.About that Stage Hazard in Pyrospear could that be Meta Ridley. btw whats the difference between Ridley and Meta Ridley?
Actually, new news has come up for Takamaru. I'm actually nominating him and would really appreciate it if we didn't clear the existing noms, since there's only eight.x8 Takamaru Rerate (just did)
Ridley was and is my most wanted character. Nothing has changed.shrooby said:Now, onto the...big one.
I'll be honest, I've never completed a Metroid game. Heck, up until I played (But didn't complete) Super Metroid a year or two ago I had never even played a Metroid game. The series never interested me, bar my recent urge to try out the previously mentioned Super and, more recently, Prime. (Though I've only played about an hour of each.) However, even before I've ever touched a Metroid game, Ridley was my most wanted character for these games.
Up until 2011 I wasn't into speculation. I didn't really care what characters we got, I just kinda rolled with it. Ridley was the first character I legitimately supported and was the character that basically introduced me to this whole community. (Granted, back then it was just one single thread, but once character threads started popping up it really got moving.) So despite not having any attachment to the Metroid franchise as a whole, I do have much attachment to Ridley. And that goes into my first reason for wanting him: the satisfaction of seeing the first character I ever actually supported finally get his time to shine.
Another reason I want Ridley is to see his increasingly large hatebase finally get what-for. I like to see those that have personally insulted my views get what's coming to them when it's as something as arbitrary and, in the grand scheme of things, as insignificant as characters in a video game. This is the lesser of the reasons I will present, but I can't say it's not a reason either, so I still present it.
But now onto the actual reason I began supporting Ridley to begin with.
When I look for character that I want to see playable, the biggest thing I look for is if that character is important enough in their franchise and Nintendo as whole. If they're an "All-Star" if you want to call it that. Smash, the way I see it, is supposed to take these "All-Stars" and pit them against each other. The Smash roster is a list of Nintendo's finest. The greats, representative of big aspects of the world of this company that we all love. The way I see it, there is no character that should be included but hasn't yet more than Ridley.
Ridley, the main antagonist of the critically acclaimed Metroid franchise. A character that's existed since the NES days. A character as important to Metroid as Ganon(dorf) is to Zelda, if not even more-so. A character so ingrained in lore that the main character herself would not even be the character we know without his integral part in the backstory.
This huge franchise sets Ridley up as this incredibly important piece of this picture. Samus' mortal enemy that robbed her of everyone she knew, and set her up for the path that we were introduced to in the original game way back when.
The fact that such an important and long lasting character from such an important and long lasting franchise, an "All-Star" if you will, hasn't been included, at the time of learning all of this, astounded this 'ere new speculator. I read through the other character threads as well, granted. King K. Rool had my support. As did Mega Man, Little Mac, Mewtwo, what have you. But Ridley, was, is, and will always be at the top of my list. That is, until he's finally included.
I will reiterate my thoughts, and I care not if you disagree: of the characters that have not yet been playable in Super Smash Bros, there is no character more worthy of inclusion than Ridley. That alone is what gives my all the confidence I need to type the following...
Groose, mark my Want for Ridley as 100 percent. A rating I never did and never will give to any other possible newcomer for these iterations of Super Smash Bros.
I agree with this. Personally, I would not have the majority those characters marked as deconfirmed, but one of the mods updated the post for me to help and marked them that way in the process. I just haven't requested them labeled back because it'll almost definitely be pointless in a month, anyway.I don't think any of these characters have much of a chance of being playable, but not having much of a chance =/= having no chance at all.
If you don't nominate it, I will. We are definitely doing this before we get a GAME OVER.Well, what the hell?
Nominations:
x5 Brash the Friggin’ Bear
Just to get this stupid thing out of the way for BKupa's sake.
Honestly, this may be one of the few major characters we don't share a common opinion on. Just noting that down.I'm tired of hearing him. I don't hate him, but I really couldn't care less about him.
I take issue with the bolded statement. We never said Greninja was unlikely. We just never talked about him.I assume this is why most of our predictions and theories on how the roster is decided end up being completely and utterly wrong?
Ex: Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, Toon Link, Rosalina, Lucario, Greninja, Ike, Robin, Lucina, and No-Chrom.
I had just taken care of most of these while you were typing that up, but I had no idea about Metal Sonic. I'm marking him off now.Standalone Pokemon Trainer x5
As the self-proclaimed list tider, we can clear these nominations:
x44 Chibi Robo Rerate
x22 Metal Sonic (Sonic the Hedgehog) (trophy)
X22 Three Fire Emblem Characters (obvious)
X18 Chrom [Stance-Based Moveset] (No Chrom)
x8 Takamaru Rerate (just did)
x5 Four Fire Emblem Characters (confirmed)
I was going to say your post was amazing. And then I saw your nominations for Brash the Freakin' Bear.So, Groose, I know you and a lot of others are big fans of the Phoenix Wright franchise, yeah?
Well, in honor of the last time I plan on rating a character (Unless by some weird-*** reason we rate Ridley or K. Rool again) I’m gonna be going all out.
But just doing plain ol’ Phoenix Wright has been done. Ohoho, no, that wouldn’t leave enough of an impact!
Instead, I'm going to...
…
break you.
If by the end I have destroyed the Phoenix Wright fandom, then I have done my job!
Oh, and I'll be honest , I've never actually played an Ace Attorney game, so I have no idea what I'm doing!
The court is now in session for the probability of Ridley from Metroid being a playable character in Super Smash Bros for Wii U and 3DS.
Mr. Wright, how do y-
Y-you’re not Phoenix Wright!
No, I’m not. I’m Haruhi Suzumiya, your honor, and I’ll be taking the aforementioned attorney’s place today. See, ordinary “Rate Their Chances” posts involving Phoenix Wright are unoriginal and uninteresting. Though I assure you, your honor, I will provide a much stronger case than he ever has.
Umm-uh… Well… Okay…then…
I declare that Ridley is, beyond a shadow of a doubt, a playable character.
And… What say the…
Oh, of course, no Mr. Edgeworth either.
I apologize for the sudden change and confusion, your honor. My name is Itsuki Koizumi, and I’ll be taking Mr. Miles Edgeworth’s place today. I proclaim that Ridley is, as was hinted at, a stage hazard on Pyrosphere.
…*sigh* I don’t feel like dealing with this today. You two can handle this without me, yes? Of course you can. Good day.
He… left… Are judges even allowed to do that?
Let’s not delve on that for now and just continue as usual. I’m sure we can still have a civil enough discussion. Why don’t you present your case first, Ms. Suzumiya?
Okay then... Ridley is, without a doubt, a playable character. Mr. Sakurai has merely been “hyping up” Ridley. It’s a logical conclusion, and is based off of three facts:
First, Mr. Sakurai always fully shows nonplayable characters and illuminates on their role. He has done this much more bluntly with some of the more popular characters such as Ashley, Waluigi, and Skull Kid.
Second, Nintendo, and Mr. Sakurai, do listen to fans. Even though it was used as the butt of a joke, Nintendo acknowledged the outcry for a localized Mother 3 and a new Star Fox game in their Digital Event at this year’s E3. Regardless of whether they go through with either, though they’ve gone through with one those things, it still shows that they are aware of what their fans want. Mr. Sakurai even said in the Smash Direct that he has “player expectations to fulfill” when introducing Lucario’s mega evolution.
And lastly, Ridley, whether positively, negatively, or neutrally, is one of the most talked about character with regards to Smash Bros.
Ridley Smash4 videos, whether they be Shokio's or whoever's, get many views for a reason. GameFAQs gets those tons a Ridley troll threads for a reason. The Ridley support thread is, by far, the largest character support thread on Smashboards for a reason.
Now, Koizumi, surely we can both agree on these three things, yes?
I suppose I can, at the very least, accept them with some degree of truth.
Good, then we arrive at what happened during the fateful moment in the Smash Direct.
Ridley’s shadow on Pyrosphere.
“Boss characters make appearances on other stages, not just this one.”
Or, perhaps better to present, the original un-translated version of what Mr. Sakurai said: “他にもボスキャラ系の仕掛けが登場.” Which roughly translates to “other boss character system gimmicks come up.”
“Oh, Ridley, stage hazard on Pyrosphere. Okay, see ya. I'm not sure why they didn't just show him and say his name, but oh well.” A conclusion came to by many. And it’s understandable to come to such a conclusion based on this alone.
But I’m not basing my case on just this! I have meaningful context which comes from the three facts I said before. When considering those three facts, it makes Mr. Sakurai’s course of action with Ridley seem a lot more suspicious! Why ambiguously “show” one of the most talked about characters in a non-playable role when he’s very aware so many people desire said character to be playable? Why prepare people for a kick in the groin when he could instead just do it immediately like he’s done with every other character?
Because it’s in order to “hype up” Ridley’s reveal as, in reality, a playable character and make it incredibly unexpected for most people. What better way to surprise people than with a character that most though was flat-out disconfirmed? He knows that people clamor on and on about Ridley, whether for or against. If Ridley isn’t playable, then he would have no reason to act out of his own disconfirming norm. The answer is that he wouldn’t. In one of his own columns Famitsu, Mr. Sakurai himself wrote that he does not like to create “needless speculation.” But if Ridley is actually playable, then that would mean the speculation his shadow nonsense ensued not “needless,” but actually serve as a form of “hype building.”
With all these things considered, there’s only one logical conclusion!
While I can see how such a conclusion is logical, it’s based on a very important assumption being made.
You are assuming Mr. Sakurai views these “boss character system gimmicks” as just as important as any other way in which a character is not playable. Mr. Sakurai first showed us the Yellow Devil in a rather vague way. Granted, it was clear he was not playable, but it was not clear exactly what purpose he served. Many speculated it would be a mere stage hazard, while others considered it a glimpse at the return of boss battles from Super Smash Bros. Brawl. We were only provided actual insight into how this “gimmick” will work through giving the Yellow Devil its very own section in the Super Smash Bros. Direct, and he spent a noticeable amount of time discussing exactly how the gimmick in question works. Such actions seem to convey the belief that what seem like merely glorified stage hazards to us are actually very important pieces of the game that are worth treating in a “hype building” way. In short, who is to say that Mr. Sakurai does or does not think that these “gimmicks” are worth “hyping up?” Who is to say that the speculation induced by “boss characters” is “needless” in Mr. Sakurai’s eyes?
If I assume Mr. Sakurai does see these “boss characters” as something worth causing a stir about, then I can also make the argument that it makes sense to only show the shadow. By not clearly showing anything regarding Ridley’s design, besides his tail briefly making it into the shot, or his exact method of attack, Mr. Sakurai could induce speculation regarding how Ridley as a “boss character” on Pyrosphere will function. How could we know if he views such speculation as “needless?” It would certainly make sense if he does not, and this goes into my own answer to the question regarding why Mr. Sakurai has not shown Ridley in any shape or form since the Smash Direct. In the case that Ridley is indeed a “boss character” on Pyrosphere, it would presumably be a Wii U exclusive. Leaving speculation regarding Smash Bros. for Wii U is important because it comes out after Smash Bros. for 3DS. As has been made clear, we’ll know the entire roster of playable characters before the Wii U version comes out due to it sharing its roster with the 3DS version. This is also why we probably have not seen anything regarding single player modes in the Wii U version; it is because Mr. Sakurai wants to keep as much speculation towards that version open so as to not let the “hype die down,” as one might say.
And all of this was based on my assumption which is the exact opposite of yours.
So, with my argument proposed, Ms. Suzumiya, I ask you this: Why is your assumption a safer one than my own?
Because it's based off more substantial analysis!
If what you assume is true, then it would mean that Mr. Sakurai doesn’t know what fans actually care about the most! It would mean that he is out of touch with his own fans. And if the changes to physics, online, and the inclusion of Mega Man, Little Mac, and Palutena are anything to go by, he certainly isn’t out of touch when developing these games.
He said it himself when he began discussing the playable characters in the Smash Direct:
“And now what you’ve all been waiting for: the fighters.”
It’s the characters that cause most of the mountains of speculatory discussion. It’s the characters that get the trailers. It's the characters that get sections on the official website. It’s the characters that seemingly get vague hints. Yellow Devil may have been showed in a somewhat vague way that didn’t quite make its role clear, but it was clear that it wasn’t a playable character. With Ridley it’s different. It’s possible to argue that Ridley is playable based on what we’ve seen and the context surrounding it. But that isn’t even what I’m talking about when I said “more substantial analysis.”
This is where we get into the analysis of what we’ve actually been given: the shadow.
The Ridley Support Thread has gone through tons of analysis regarding the shadow and has come up with very interesting findings of which I will show the most pertinent.
I’ll trust that the second post of the Ridley Support Thread, specifically the “SHADOW EVIDENCE” section, will provide the crux of the necessary analysis I am speaking of.
All Mr. Sakurai did by just showing the shadow was imply that there is something worth hiding in regards to Ridley. You’re right, he could just want to hide details of Ridley’s boss appearance and mannerisms, but if the shadow analysis tells me anything, it’s that Mr. Sakurai went out of his way to make a Ridley model that not only moves in a rather odd way when compared to all other bosses we’ve seen in Super Smash Bros., but is also of a seemingly playable size.
So, now, the question: why would Mr. Sakurai go out of his way to make a relatively small Ridley be a stage hazard on a rather large stage, and why would he make this boss’ mannerisms such that it seems this boss would not lend itself to being very well designed in terms of dealing with players?
It’s because Ridley isn’t actually a “boss character!”
A rather solid case, Ms. Suzumiya, but an immediate problem to both of us just occurred to me.
And that would be…?
With the judge gone… We aren’t able to get a ruling
…
I suppose we’ll just wait until the game comes out then.
Okay, no more. You get the point! I’m also sure that that’s enough fandom-ruining for now.
Gods, I had to rip and resize all of those GIFs on my own. It was worth it though!
Groose, I give Ridley a 99% chance of being playable. I acknowledge the fact that the other side is not exactly unfounded. Far from it, but I think that my own stance is well-grounded as well! I have much confidence and, after being rather confident in Stage Hazardley for some months after the Smash Direct, am fully prepared in what I think to be the 1% chance that I’m completely wrong in analyzing Sakurai’s ways.
For my want score, I’ll quote a post I made from when we rated Ridley on another day.
Ridley was and is my most wanted character. Nothing has changed.
The only newcomer I will give my 100% Want is to the big, purple, commander of the space pirates, he who will not ever truly stay dead, the one and only Cunning God of Death, Ridley.Praise be unto him
…
I abstain from Chibi Robo.
…
And, just some last more general words.
While I haven’t necessarily posted a lot in this game in the past year, I’ve been with this game since before many of the more frequent participants even had accounts. It’ll be sad to see it go once character speculation dies down. (Though, I suppose it could move on to other kinds of Wii U speculation as well.)
Groose and Co., you’ve done an excellent job carrying (the artist formally known as) Super Smash Bros. Fan’s torch. I hope when Smash 5, err, 6, roles around we’ll be able to see this game's return. It’s been a fun ride, and I hope the next time is even better!
And I also hope that next time we’ll be rating the chance of Ridley, the veteran, returning for another installment.
Oh, right, how could a forget:
X5 Brash the Freakin’ Bear
That was an excellent analysis of Ridley's situation, I believe. You even presented both sides of the argument, and the whole Phoenix Wright reference made it quite entertaining to read. Good job.So, Groose, I know you and a lot of others are big fans of the Phoenix Wright franchise, yeah?
Well, in honor of the last time I plan on rating a character (Unless by some weird-*** reason we rate Ridley or K. Rool again) I’m gonna be going all out.
But just doing plain ol’ Phoenix Wright has been done. Ohoho, no, that wouldn’t leave enough of an impact!
Instead, I'm going to...
…
break you.
If by the end I have destroyed the Phoenix Wright fandom, then I have done my job!
Oh, and I'll be honest , I've never actually played an Ace Attorney game, so I have no idea what I'm doing!
The court is now in session for the probability of Ridley from Metroid being a playable character in Super Smash Bros for Wii U and 3DS.
Mr. Wright, how do y-
Y-you’re not Phoenix Wright!
No, I’m not. I’m Haruhi Suzumiya, your honor, and I’ll be taking the aforementioned attorney’s place today. See, ordinary “Rate Their Chances” posts involving Phoenix Wright are unoriginal and uninteresting. Though I assure you, your honor, I will provide a much stronger case than he ever has.
Umm-uh… Well… Okay…then…
I declare that Ridley is, beyond a shadow of a doubt, a playable character.
And… What say the…
Oh, of course, no Mr. Edgeworth either.
I apologize for the sudden change and confusion, your honor. My name is Itsuki Koizumi, and I’ll be taking Mr. Miles Edgeworth’s place today. I proclaim that Ridley is, as was hinted at, a stage hazard on Pyrosphere.
…*sigh* I don’t feel like dealing with this today. You two can handle this without me, yes? Of course you can. Good day.
He… left… Are judges even allowed to do that?
Let’s not delve on that for now and just continue as usual. I’m sure we can still have a civil enough discussion. Why don’t you present your case first, Ms. Suzumiya?
Okay then... Ridley is, without a doubt, a playable character. Mr. Sakurai has merely been “hyping up” Ridley. It’s a logical conclusion, and is based off of three facts:
First, Mr. Sakurai always fully shows nonplayable characters and illuminates on their role. He has done this much more bluntly with some of the more popular characters such as Ashley, Waluigi, and Skull Kid.
Second, Nintendo, and Mr. Sakurai, do listen to fans. Even though it was used as the butt of a joke, Nintendo acknowledged the outcry for a localized Mother 3 and a new Star Fox game in their Digital Event at this year’s E3. Regardless of whether they go through with either, though they’ve gone through with one those things, it still shows that they are aware of what their fans want. Mr. Sakurai even said in the Smash Direct that he has “player expectations to fulfill” when introducing Lucario’s mega evolution.
And lastly, Ridley, whether positively, negatively, or neutrally, is one of the most talked about character with regards to Smash Bros.
Ridley Smash4 videos, whether they be Shokio's or whoever's, get many views for a reason. GameFAQs gets those tons a Ridley troll threads for a reason. The Ridley support thread is, by far, the largest character support thread on Smashboards for a reason.
Now, Koizumi, surely we can both agree on these three things, yes?
I suppose I can, at the very least, accept them with some degree of truth.
Good, then we arrive at what happened during the fateful moment in the Smash Direct.
Ridley’s shadow on Pyrosphere.
“Boss characters make appearances on other stages, not just this one.”
Or, perhaps better to present, the original un-translated version of what Mr. Sakurai said: “他にもボスキャラ系の仕掛けが登場.” Which roughly translates to “other boss character system gimmicks come up.”
“Oh, Ridley, stage hazard on Pyrosphere. Okay, see ya. I'm not sure why they didn't just show him and say his name, but oh well.” A conclusion came to by many. And it’s understandable to come to such a conclusion based on this alone.
But I’m not basing my case on just this! I have meaningful context which comes from the three facts I said before. When considering those three facts, it makes Mr. Sakurai’s course of action with Ridley seem a lot more suspicious! Why ambiguously “show” one of the most talked about characters in a non-playable role when he’s very aware so many people desire said character to be playable? Why prepare people for a kick in the groin when he could instead just do it immediately like he’s done with every other character?
Because it’s in order to “hype up” Ridley’s reveal as, in reality, a playable character and make it incredibly unexpected for most people. What better way to surprise people than with a character that most though was flat-out disconfirmed? He knows that people clamor on and on about Ridley, whether for or against. If Ridley isn’t playable, then he would have no reason to act out of his own disconfirming norm. The answer is that he wouldn’t. In one of his own columns Famitsu, Mr. Sakurai himself wrote that he does not like to create “needless speculation.” But if Ridley is actually playable, then that would mean the speculation his shadow nonsense ensued not “needless,” but actually serve as a form of “hype building.”
With all these things considered, there’s only one logical conclusion!
While I can see how such a conclusion is logical, it’s based on a very important assumption being made.
You are assuming Mr. Sakurai views these “boss character system gimmicks” as just as important as any other way in which a character is not playable. Mr. Sakurai first showed us the Yellow Devil in a rather vague way. Granted, it was clear he was not playable, but it was not clear exactly what purpose he served. Many speculated it would be a mere stage hazard, while others considered it a glimpse at the return of boss battles from Super Smash Bros. Brawl. We were only provided actual insight into how this “gimmick” will work through giving the Yellow Devil its very own section in the Super Smash Bros. Direct, and he spent a noticeable amount of time discussing exactly how the gimmick in question works. Such actions seem to convey the belief that what seem like merely glorified stage hazards to us are actually very important pieces of the game that are worth treating in a “hype building” way. In short, who is to say that Mr. Sakurai does or does not think that these “gimmicks” are worth “hyping up?” Who is to say that the speculation induced by “boss characters” is “needless” in Mr. Sakurai’s eyes?
If I assume Mr. Sakurai does see these “boss characters” as something worth causing a stir about, then I can also make the argument that it makes sense to only show the shadow. By not clearly showing anything regarding Ridley’s design, besides his tail briefly making it into the shot, or his exact method of attack, Mr. Sakurai could induce speculation regarding how Ridley as a “boss character” on Pyrosphere will function. How could we know if he views such speculation as “needless?” It would certainly make sense if he does not, and this goes into my own answer to the question regarding why Mr. Sakurai has not shown Ridley in any shape or form since the Smash Direct. In the case that Ridley is indeed a “boss character” on Pyrosphere, it would presumably be a Wii U exclusive. Leaving speculation regarding Smash Bros. for Wii U is important because it comes out after Smash Bros. for 3DS. As has been made clear, we’ll know the entire roster of playable characters before the Wii U version comes out due to it sharing its roster with the 3DS version. This is also why we probably have not seen anything regarding single player modes in the Wii U version; it is because Mr. Sakurai wants to keep as much speculation towards that version open so as to not let the “hype die down,” as one might say.
And all of this was based on my assumption which is the exact opposite of yours.
So, with my argument proposed, Ms. Suzumiya, I ask you this: Why is your assumption a safer one than my own?
Because it's based off more substantial analysis!
If what you assume is true, then it would mean that Mr. Sakurai doesn’t know what fans actually care about the most! It would mean that he is out of touch with his own fans. And if the changes to physics, online, and the inclusion of Mega Man, Little Mac, and Palutena are anything to go by, he certainly isn’t out of touch when developing these games.
He said it himself when he began discussing the playable characters in the Smash Direct:
“And now what you’ve all been waiting for: the fighters.”
It’s the characters that cause most of the mountains of speculatory discussion. It’s the characters that get the trailers. It's the characters that get sections on the official website. It’s the characters that seemingly get vague hints. Yellow Devil may have been showed in a somewhat vague way that didn’t quite make its role clear, but it was clear that it wasn’t a playable character. With Ridley it’s different. It’s possible to argue that Ridley is playable based on what we’ve seen and the context surrounding it. But that isn’t even what I’m talking about when I said “more substantial analysis.”
This is where we get into the analysis of what we’ve actually been given: the shadow.
The Ridley Support Thread has gone through tons of analysis regarding the shadow and has come up with very interesting findings of which I will show the most pertinent.
I’ll trust that the second post of the Ridley Support Thread, specifically the “SHADOW EVIDENCE” section, will provide the crux of the necessary analysis I am speaking of.
All Mr. Sakurai did by just showing the shadow was imply that there is something worth hiding in regards to Ridley. You’re right, he could just want to hide details of Ridley’s boss appearance and mannerisms, but if the shadow analysis tells me anything, it’s that Mr. Sakurai went out of his way to make a Ridley model that not only moves in a rather odd way when compared to all other bosses we’ve seen in Super Smash Bros., but is also of a seemingly playable size.
So, now, the question: why would Mr. Sakurai go out of his way to make a relatively small Ridley be a stage hazard on a rather large stage, and why would he make this boss’ mannerisms such that it seems this boss would not lend itself to being very well designed in terms of dealing with players?
It’s because Ridley isn’t actually a “boss character!”
A rather solid case, Ms. Suzumiya, but an immediate problem to both of us just occurred to me.
And that would be…?
With the judge gone… We aren’t able to get a ruling
…
I suppose we’ll just wait until the game comes out then.
Okay, no more. You get the point! I’m also sure that that’s enough fandom-ruining for now.
Gods, I had to rip and resize all of those GIFs on my own. It was worth it though!
Groose, I give Ridley a 99% chance of being playable. I acknowledge the fact that the other side is not exactly unfounded. Far from it, but I think that my own stance is well-grounded as well! I have much confidence and, after being rather confident in Stage Hazardley for some months after the Smash Direct, am fully prepared in what I think to be the 1% chance that I’m completely wrong in analyzing Sakurai’s ways.
For my want score, I’ll quote a post I made from when we rated Ridley on another day.
Ridley was and is my most wanted character. Nothing has changed.
The only newcomer I will give my 100% Want is to the big, purple, commander of the space pirates, he who will not ever truly stay dead, the one and only Cunning God of Death, Ridley.Praise be unto him
…
I abstain from Chibi Robo.
…
And, just some last more general words.
While I haven’t necessarily posted a lot in this game in the past year, I’ve been with this game since before many of the more frequent participants even had accounts. It’ll be sad to see it go once character speculation dies down. (Though, I suppose it could move on to other kinds of Wii U speculation as well.)
Groose and Co., you’ve done an excellent job carrying (the artist formally known as) Super Smash Bros. Fan’s torch. I hope when Smash 5, err, 6, roles around we’ll be able to see this game's return. It’s been a fun ride, and I hope the next time is even better!
And I also hope that next time we’ll be rating the chance of Ridley, the veteran, returning for another installment.
Oh, right, how could a forget:
X5 Brash the Freakin’ Bear
True. But perhaps we should have?I take issue with the bolded statement. We never said Greninja was unlikely. We just never talked about him.
THIS, 100 times over. Discussion used to be calm and agreeable...I hate how people have turned it from a rational debate into a meme.
Ordinary Phoenix Wright references don't interest Haruhi...?Though isn't Phoenix usually on the left?
Fixed. Going back to sleep now.Thread name needs to be changed; I came in here ready to vote on what no longer is
Ridley at 88!
Heh. Well, it's impossible for us to agree on everything. I have nothing against Ridley, but I'm a bit tired of hearing him and his speculation. I guess you say that I have Ridley fatigue.Honestly, this may be one of the few major characters we don't share a common opinion on. Just noting that down.
...Oh, dearie me. Ridley? I need that crown back, buddy. When Erico9001 gave Ridley a 0% want score, he knocked you down to just a tenth of a percent below the good King. Looks like you aren't our most wanted after all. Too bad. You were so close though... just like Shulk, you lost your chance because of a last second vote. Speaking of Shulk, you're two-hundreths of a percent behind him, too, O Third Most Wanted.