Social PK Love - Lucas Social Thread: “Inside the mailbox was absolutely nothing”

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

No, like... it breaks Super Armor? I thought only grabs did that? I've used PK Fire on Charizard during Rock Smash and he didn't move so I'm confused.

I just realized when I watched the replay I timed it so it Mac after the Super Armour frames lol woops XD

DIP!

 

[LimitCrown]

The second hitbox of PK Fire Burst, Flame Pillar, and Lucas's PK Fire seems to have a hurtbox. Because of this, it will block all projectiles that would normally disappear after hitting an opponent.

 

[PKBeam]

it also explodes on hitboxes so you can't just simply cancel it out with a jab or fair.

 

[Luco]

Some characters like Marth would theoretically be able to cancel out PK Fire with jab. I've had it done to me in Brawl, and Marth's sword is the same length in this game (maybe longer, I can't remember).

 

[BlueberrySyrup]

Figured you guys might enjoy this!
https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3c7icj/pk_blueberry_2_a_smash_4_combomontage_video/

 

[Kangaexe]

Soon ill be able to record Smash 4 and play against people and not on For Glory so expect some Lucas vids BOOOOYZZZZ

 

[Kangaexe]

Figured you guys might enjoy this!

That combo @ 3:46 with the d-throw - nair- nair - bair - uair was pretty awesome, is that guaranteed? know the % where it becomes hard to pull off?

 

[Luco]

Nice work Blueberry! Although there were some clips in that that didn't always look fresh. There was a Ness one which was mostly stock standard combos until a Nair stage spiked the opponent. Remember you really want to wow the audience with every single clip! All that said, there was a lot of brilliant stuff in there, fantastic work buddy. <3

 

[BlueberrySyrup]

Nice work Blueberry! Although there were some clips in that that didn't always look fresh. There was a Ness one which was mostly stock standard combos until a Nair stage spiked the opponent. Remember you really want to wow the audience with every single clip! All that said, there was a lot of brilliant stuff in there, fantastic work buddy. <3

Thanks! A lot of those ones were added because 0-death "montage" :3
I'm pretty proud with how the video came out.

 

[NekoJubei]

Have you guys ever done falling Nair to footstool offstage?
I always die laughing when that happens Lol

 

[GalaxyWaffles]

Am I the only one who finds Zair to not be all that great? Like everyone hypes it up but it's actually nothing special. It's also kinda hard to hit with imo.

 

[A Polar Bear]

People shouldn't fear Lucas' PKT2 as much as they are. It has the priority of a service complaint at a Comcast call centre. Literally Lucas' own n-air could beat it, let alone other disjoint characters' moves. It's still a decent risk trying to go for it, but it doesn't do that much knockback, and the way it drags you along before the final hit should make it easier to time a tech. Point is people shouldn't just be content sitting at the ledge while I recover from deep with it, especially not Meta Knights or Falcons or the FE Swordies. I think they'll eventually learn though.

 

[Solfiner]

People shouldn't fear Lucas' PKT2 as much as they are. It has the priority of a service complaint at a Comcast call centre. Literally Lucas' own n-air could beat it, let alone other disjoint characters' moves. It's still a decent risk trying to go for it, but it doesn't do that much knockback, and the way it drags you along before the final hit should make it easier to time a tech. Point is people shouldn't just be content sitting at the ledge while I recover from deep with it, especially not Meta Knights or Falcons or the FE Swordies. I think they'll eventually learn though.

Yeah, my friend always gets free spikes whenever we play friendlies pretty much. At least he has rope snake too.

 

[A Polar Bear]

Am I the only one who finds Zair to not be all that great? Like everyone hypes it up but it's actually nothing special. It's also kinda hard to hit with imo.

It's not meant to do mean damage or hitstun, its more of a spacing tool or an approach option from the air. Regardless of if you're trying to land it or not, you should be using it when you're moving toward the opponent in the air, since it has negligible landing lag, so even if they shield it whatever. It also cancels out a lot of projectiles. I get how some people might think it's more a chore to have to press the z-air button all the time, but eventually you can get used to it, and find it's actually really good. I got used to it fast since my Brawl Lucas playstyle was heavily inspired by Mekos, who always landed with z-air.

 

[pikazz]

something I did together with my fiancie today 'w'

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

something I did together with my fiancie today 'w'

This video is great XD

 

[BlueberrySyrup]

Lucas techs (Text)

 

[Tito Maas]

Am I the only one who finds Zair to not be all that great? Like everyone hypes it up but it's actually nothing special. It's also kinda hard to hit with imo.

Right

 

[BlueberrySyrup]

I love the new title thread LOL

 

[NekoJubei]

So uh i just remembered that we can punish Multi Hit Smashes on shield with Up Smash Thanks to invincibile Frame 1-4 on start up
We can punish stuff like Diddy's F Smash on shield and Sheik's Down Smash will Jump Cancel Up Smash

Also jabs on shield and stuff
EDIT: PSI Counter!

 

[TewnLeenk]

I love the new title thread LOL

I try to keep it fresh with Mother 3 quotes every couple of weeks

 

[WaffleDinosaur]

(Mother 3 spoilers, my bad for not putting this warning here earlier)

BTW you guys ****ing pumped for the Mother 4 fan game?

 

[Luco]

Dude I've been waiting for the past months ever since I really looked into it. I'm SO GOSH DARN HYPED! I hope it's really good. :D

 

[NekoJubei]

It seems Up Smash out of shield is SORTA a good option if both players are shielding at the same time and they try to grab us thanks to the invincibility frames on start up which is frame 1 to 4

 

[A Polar Bear]

I try to keep it fresh with Mother 3 quotes every couple of weeks

I look forward to when the thread title becomes "It was stabbed through your wife's chest"

 

[NekoJubei]

Not much going on around these parts eh?

 

[k-ta]

Why hasn't Lucas' up Smash been coined as the Brainblast yet

 

[Tito Maas]

Why hasn't Lucas' up Smash been coined as the Brainblast yet

Thought that was Mewtwo's Final Smash

 

[Tito Maas]

It seems Up Smash out of shield is SORTA a good option if both players are shielding at the same time and they try to grab us thanks to the invincibility frames on start up which is frame 1 to 4

I absolutely hate those invicibility frames. It seems like I can never get them to actually work.

1-4 might be too small a window.

EDIT:

So uh i just remembered that we can punish Multi Hit Smashes on shield with Up Smash Thanks to invincibile Frame 1-4 on start up
We can punish stuff like Diddy's F Smash on shield and Sheik's Down Smash will Jump Cancel Up Smash

Also jabs on shield and stuff
EDIT: PSI Counter!

Oh this is awesome.

Does this work on multihit dash attacks?

 

[PKBeam]

the window is right at the start of the attack, so the only thing you really need to do is input usmash just before you're going to get hit.

It seems Up Smash out of shield is SORTA a good option if both players are shielding at the same time and they try to grab us thanks to the invincibility frames on start up which is frame 1 to 4

the problem is you don't know if they're even going to grab. if you did know, you'd still have to guess exactly when.
if you did know exactly when to do it then it becomes a "sorta good idea" (like a multi hitting move on shield) but otherwise it's just too risky to be feasible (but that doesnt mean it wont work at all)

 

[Snackss]

Is down throw to back air spike a true combo? I haven't practiced it.

 

[PKBeam]

yes, at least at 0%, but the ease of pulling it off is affected by DI.

 

[Tito Maas]

Is down throw to back air spike a true combo? I haven't practiced it.

In practice mode you can do it around 100% and further combo into UAir for what most of the time is a kill.

However I haven't been able to land it in a game with the variable of rage and DI

 

[Tito Maas]

Guys, I never land BAir but I landed two of the sexiest BAir spikes today. Nothing is more beautiful than that spike, I swear.

I wish I had a capture card for the run off BAir I did on a Kirby today.

 

[NekoJubei]

I absolutely hate those invicibility frames. It seems like I can never get them to actually work.

1-4 might be too small a window.

EDIT:


Oh this is awesome.

Does this work on multihit dash attacks?

Yep! Something like Kirby or Bowser Jr but not Pac Man since is lagless

 

[Tito Maas]

Yep! Something like Kirby or Bowser Jr but not Pac Man since is lagless

Does this mean the hitbox activates within those first 1-4 frames or is it something we gave to do towards the end of the attack?

 

[NekoJubei]

Does this mean the hitbox activates within those first 1-4 frames or is it something we gave to do towards the end of the attack?

We have to do Up Smash when the final hit of their dash attack is about to touch us
Also we can punish Yoshi's stupid janky DAir with this! Yay ;D

 

[k-ta]

Thought that was Mewtwo's Final Smash

IT ISN'T WORTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
at least not when Lucas has an alt with brown hair.

 

[FullMoon]

My Smash Corner has made this for us:

 

[Tito Maas]

I usually don't pay too much attention to jab locks, especially as they get more complex, because I'm skeptical of its viability in actual matches.

But Lucas's jab locks get a lot of attention. Maybe it's worth spending a day or two practicing.