Eh, in the matches I've seen it's even at best. I don't trust the matchups thread personally.The last time I checked, R.O.B. owned Snake. Not sure about MK.
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Eh, in the matches I've seen it's even at best. I don't trust the matchups thread personally.The last time I checked, R.O.B. owned Snake. Not sure about MK.
i agree its probably even. if rob has an advantage its not a big one.Eh, in the matches I've seen it's even at best. I don't trust the matchups thread personally.
Having the worst tournament outings at present time will never help you in a tier list discussion. Add to that a shield you cannot jump out of, has a hard time playing defensively, a painfully slow grab, and being a large target.Why the heck is Yoshi still so low on everyones lists???
I don't know about the others, but I know Yoshi is the worst character in Mario Kart 64. IIRC it wasAnd that he flat out sucks in every Smash game. Nitnedo hates him in fighters, but he's awesome in golf, tennis, karting, etc.
Not saying he's worthless.Wow, tell that to everyone I have ever played
I have never lost a match of MK64 and I always choose Yoshi.
Whaaaaa?
Toad
Peach
Bowser
Wario
DK
Luigi
Mario
Yoshi
Whaaaaa?
I always used Yoshi. He's my fave nintendo char, and would probably main him in Smash if he didn't suck.
Any more questions?Not saying he's worthless.
Just saying Toad and Peach are hax.
Ivysaur ruins Pokemon Trainer, huh? Well dang. I guess having one of the most broken specials, a good projectile, and an awesome spacing move must REALLY bring down a character.Dis iz mah tire list (Warning, uneducated n00b posting a list):
Worst Character in Brawl Tier
Captain Falcon
Top tier
Snake > Meta Night
Upper tier
G&W > DDD > R.O.B > Marth > Falco
High-high tier
Wario > Wolf > Pikachu > Pit > Lucario
Low-high tier
Olimar > Zelda > Toon Link
Mid tier
DK> Kirby > Ice Climbers > Diddy > Mario > Fox > Lucas > Zamus > Shiek > Luigi
Low tier
Peach > Ness > Sonic > Bowser > Ganondorf > Ike > Link > Samus
Bottom tier
Pokemon Trainer > Yoshi > Jigglypuff
My comments
-Captain Falcon is THE worst character, but he is too manly and awesome to be at the bottom.
-Zelda and tLink are in a different tier than the rest of high tier is because of tourney results. Olimar is in this tier because of sh***y recovery.
-DK is in mid tier because DDD is a VERY hard counter to him. Shiek is in middle tier because outside of KO power she is still decent. Moreso than ZSS IMO; Plus painful combo on the spacies is hax.
-I hate Ike (His tier position has been approved by The King).
-Samus is in low tier because she can somewhat camp, escape with up-b, has has the potential for combos. If she did not have the third worse tournament results, she would be above Link.
-Ivasaur ruins Pokemon Trainer IMO.
Any more questions?
Actually, Upsmash is easy to land and is a kill move, and people don't realize that his down tilt has killing power, because it's JUST THAT DECEPTIVE.charizard cant land KO moves and squirtle dies so easily.
Oh, so you main Ganondorf instead. I get it.Whaaaaa?
I always used Yoshi. He's my fave nintendo char, and would probably main him in Smash if he didn't suck.
the pokemon trainer is high mid tier.
snake can either be really good or bad. most likely a higher tier with top tier potential.
olimar is low high tier.
space animals will all place very high, Falco being the highest.
Yoshi should really move up to mid tier. hes a lot better, not great but better and some people will start to use him.
dedede will be high midtier or low high tier.
Samus will drop to low mid tier, or high low tier.
MK will be high tier.
Pit will be High Tier.
Ike has high tier potentional, we will have to wait longer to see how his game evolves though.
Pikachu is definatly high tier, with TOP tier Potential.
Lucario in a good players hands can be low high tier, but will mostly likely fall into mid tier.
Marth will remain high tier. I still don't think hes good enough to get top though.
These are players i play a lot as, and all of the predications are quite reasonable.
Whaaaaa?
I always used Yoshi. He's my fave nintendo char, and would probably main him in Smash if he didn't suck.
What more can we find of Ike? His game was figured out 3 days after the JAPANESE release.Ike has high tier potentional, we will have to wait longer to see how his game evolves though.
agreed. ikes game cannot evolve any more. unless of course someone finds some crazy AT with him...which wont happen.What more can we find of Ike? His game was figured out 3 days after the JAPANESE release.
Fixed.Is DK still high tier? I know he's apparently very good against Meta Knight who's probably the best at the moment but i heard he's very poor against some of the other higher tiered characters.
IvanEva's Match-Up ChartWouW is DK not considered a Snake counter? I've heard that alot hear and elsewhere
oh right sorry its just i heard different but thanks for the link and quick reply.
I actually somewhat like this. The general placings are about right, but the individual placings are always open to nitpicking.Tier List
woah. what is up with your top. game and watch number 1. i think your being biased if you main him. im assuming you do because hes you symbol thing. game and watch is great and he is one of my mains but not the best. he should be third. and snake is definitley number 1 and metaknight number 2. marth is probably like number 5 and falco is maybe 4 or so. the rest looks pretty ok execpt for a few mistakes here and there.Top:
Mr. Game & Watch
Marth
Snake
Meta Knight
Falco
Toon Link
High:
King Dedede
R.O.B.
Pikachu
Luigi
Wolf
Diddy Kong
Pit
Olimar
Wario
Donkey Kong
Middle:
Fox
Ice Climbers
Zero Suit Samus
Lucario
Zelda
Lucas
Bowser
Link
Ness
Low:
Peach
Pokemon Trainer
Ike
Shiek
Samus
Sonic
Mario
Bottom:
Jigglypuff
Ganondorf
Yoshi
Captain Falcon
Maybe PT to bottom. Lol.
I stopped reading here.Now you may say wtf is Pika doing in Top, and if you do, it only shows on thing. You have never played against a good Pikachu player.