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despite shiek being subpar as well... watch a shiek vs. ike matchup and tell countinue trying to say ike is top tier...Hell I wouldn't even say Ike is mid. More like low.
The better the opponent gets, the easier he is to beat. Once you get into metagame levels, Ike is ****ed
Maybe because Kirby Wii was cancelled a long time ago?Snake is gonna continue to win tourneys left and right, not only is he a really good character, but he's easily one of the most popular characters in the game. Mario may have more fans, but Snake plays better and many Mario fans are also Snake fans. The coupling of Snake being so ridiculously good and his huge fanbase means that he's gonna stay near that top spot longer than Sheik in Melee.
How many of us are going to be in line for the Kirby Wii release? No one? Thought so. How many of us are going to be in line for the MGS4 midnight release? A whole helluva lot of us. Snake is gonna stay on top because he's so frickin popular and he's good at the same time.
Ah, yes. Thank you very much sir. Exactly what I was looking for.
Is this some kind of cruel joke?Zamus when being hit with Ice Climbers Down B.
Forgot someone in the Female Tier List.Mini tier lists for the hell of it.
Samus is a guy in her suit, everyone knows that.Forgot someone in the Female Tier List.
Look at her face though. It's really soft and feminine. You can see it through her helmet...or is she just one of those yaoi bishi buttsecks characters when she's in the suit?Samus is a guy in her suit, everyone knows that.
S/he has about 5 surgeons operate, who come out of her arm cannon. Of course, Nintendo edited this out with blinding light and a bunch of hitboxes.Zero laser causes sex change.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=alepBscgUX0&feature=relatedS/he has about 5 surgeons operate, who come out of her arm cannon. Of course, Nintendo edited this out with blinding light and a bunch of hitboxes.
This should be a power up in the next metroid game.
Seriously...I think Wario being so worthy caught everyone off guard lol. He's really tough and has strong attacks. Also he can last a while too. O_oHer f-smash range might be "huuuge" but it has crap damage. And d-smash is hard to hit with even if true combos rox with anoyingness.
Anyway, I'd like to have a quaint discussion on Wario. I've totally underestimated this guy from the beginning and I still don't really understand him, but is he good enough to be high tier? Thoughts appreciated.
I doubt Top tier. Maybe Mid Tier or High Tier due to poor vertical recovery (fart usually won't get charged soon enough so can't really include that as part of recovery. It also wrecks Wario on Melee stages since he ends up killing himself on a lot of them) and his horizontal recovery is easily wrecked if he doesn't have the bike. He does last for a long time though with the exception of against certain characters like Fox, Ike, and Marth (if tipped). However, his moves are indeed strong and he's got a nice spike (?) I think.Wario, i think, caught everyone off guard. His attacks are quick and strong, he has an excellent recovery, perhaps one of the most annoying moves in this game. He looks to be a candidate of even top tier!
I doubt Top tier. Maybe Mid Tier or High Tier due to poor vertical recovery (fart usually won't get charged soon enough so can't really include that as part of recovery. It also wrecks Wario on Melee stages since he ends up killing himself on a lot of them) and his horizontal recovery is easily wrecked if he doesn't have the bike. He does last for a long time though with the exception of against certain characters like Fox, Ike, and Marth (if tipped). However, his moves are indeed strong and he's got a nice spike (?) I think.
My (personal) updated tier list (characters not listed in any specific order):
Top Tier:
-Toon Link
-Zelda
-Marth
-Snake
-Falco
-R.O.B.
High Tier:
-Mr. Game and Watch
-MetaKnight
-Kirby
-Luigi
-Diddy Kong
-Ike
-Olimar
-Ness
-Lucas
-Pit
-Pikachu
-Lucario
-King Dedede
Mid Tier:
-Wario
-Pokemon Trainer (Overall)
-Shiek
-Mario
-Bowser
-Donkey Kong
-Ganondorf
-Zero Suit Samus
-Samus
-Ice Climbers
-Jigglypuff
-Fox
Low Tier:
-Peach
-Captain Falcon
-Wolf
Bottom Tier:
-Sonic
-Yoshi
-Link
Comments? Wolf and Pit maybe out of place though....