More Alt costumes than Wario, *spoilers* Also complete AT, Trophy, and Sticker list.

[SuperLink9]

They're not alt. costumes. Shortfuse's Disc Ripping thread mentions them too. He reckoned they were just characters taken out in the early stages.

I hope it's true but I REALLY doubt it. We would have seen more by now.

 

[ChronoBound]

They're not alt. costumes. Shortfuse's Disc Ripping thread mentions them too. He reckoned they were just characters taken out in the early stages.

I hope it's true but I REALLY doubt it. We would have seen more by now.

That doesn't explain why the Assists of Sothe, the Pegasus Knights, and Rosalina are completely gone, and that the Pokeballs of Shaymin, Onix, and Regigigas are completely gone despite all these guys still being in the game a month ago. If these unfinished characters still have a file within the game disk why doesn't the Sothe Assist Trophy?

 

[SuperLink9]

What!? All those Assists are gone!? I had no idea. :S

Maybe it does have something to do with having data for Mario Galaxy or Pokémon on your Wii or your SD card...

Or maybe the sources that reported said assist trophies weren't telling the truth? Sorry, I'm not up to speed on this at all.

 

[GreenMamba]

Did we ever actually see the Rosalina, Sothe, Pegasus Knight Assist Trophies in videos, though? The only thing we had to go off was people's word, not actual video evidence. They could very well have been lying.

 

[SuperLink9]

Exactly :3

 

[ChronoBound]

What!? All those Assists are gone!? I had no idea. :S

Maybe it does have something to do with having data for Mario Galaxy or Pokémon on your Wii or your SD card...

Or maybe the sources that reported said assist trophies weren't telling the truth? Sorry, I'm not up to speed on this at all.

Tons of people sighted the Sothe Assist Trophy, they were all making a big hooplah over why Sothe was doing flips instead of using his trademark knife. The Assist Trophy of Sothe also talked, and said he would do his best to fight for Ike. Also, I don't think these Assists and Pokemon are accessed via memory card data, because these guys are completely gone from the game disk.

 

[aLeX-ssbfan]

The link doesn't work anymore in the first page... anyone would keep the list and would share it ?

 

[SuperLink9]

Well perhaps they were never there. Besides, we're the Smash community, it's not like we havn't seen dozens of prophets claiming to know the same things... but none of these are in the game.

EDIT: If these "alt. costumes" really are in the game, then where are they? Why havn't we seen them yet?

 

[ChronoBound]

The link doesn't work anymore in the first page... anyone would keep the list and would share it ?

List of Assist Trophies:

\effect\assist\ef_ast_ridley.pac, size:128 off:2A13D400
\effect\assist\ef_barbara.pac, size:81600 off:2A13D480
\effect\assist\ef_customrobo.pac, size:53728 off:2A151340
\effect\assist\ef_cyborg.pac, size:30944 off:2A15E520
\effect\assist\ef_devil.pac, size:11520 off:2A165E00
\effect\assist\ef_excitebike.pac, size:7008 off:2A168B00
\effect\assist\ef_goroh.pac, size:128 off:2A16A660
\effect\assist\ef_heririn.pac, size:128 off:2A16A6E0
\effect\assist\ef_hmbros.pac, size:9824 off:2A16A760
\effect\assist\ef_jeff.pac, size:18336 off:2A16CDC0
\effect\assist\ef_joe.pac, size:51456 off:2A171560
\effect\assist\ef_jugem.pac, size:128 off:2A17DE60
\effect\assist\ef_katana.pac, size:8096 off:2A17DEE0
\effect\assist\ef_kururi.pac, size:77600 off:2A17FE80
\effect\assist\ef_lin.pac, size:39520 off:2A192DA0
\effect\assist\ef_littlemac.pac, size:17568 off:2A19C800
\effect\assist\ef_metroid.pac, size:66528 off:2A1A0CA0
\effect\assist\ef_nintendogs.pac, size:22112 off:2A1B1080
\effect\assist\ef_resetsan.pac, size:90848 off:2A1B66E0
\effect\assist\ef_robin.pac, size:18048 off:2A1CC9C0
\effect\assist\ef_saki.pac, size:65504 off:2A1D1040
\effect\assist\ef_shadow.pac, size:67840 off:2A1E1020
\effect\assist\ef_stafy.pac, size:53632 off:2A1F1920
\effect\assist\ef_tank.pac, size:23648 off:2A1FEAA0
\effect\assist\ef_tingle.pac, size:133216 off:2A204700
\effect\assist\ef_waluigi.pac, size:6944 off:2A224F60
\effect\assist\ef_wright.pac, size:17632 off:2A226A80

List of characters:
\effect\fighter\ef_captain.pac, size:92832 off:2A8ED4A0
\effect\fighter\ef_dedede.pac, size:166720 off:2A903F40
\effect\fighter\ef_diddy.pac, size:81824 off:2A92CA80
\effect\fighter\ef_dixie.pac, size:128 off:2A940A20
\effect\fighter\ef_donkey.pac, size:76832 off:2A940AA0
\effect\fighter\ef_dr_mario.pac, size:128 off:2A9536C0
\effect\fighter\ef_falco.pac, size:300992 off:2A953740
\effect\fighter\ef_fox.pac, size:302016 off:2A99CF00
\effect\fighter\ef_gamewatch.pac, size:128 off:2A9E6AC0
\effect\fighter\ef_ganon.pac, size:62464 off:2A9E6B40
\effect\fighter\ef_gkoopa.pac, size:128 off:2A9F5F40
\effect\fighter\ef_ike.pac, size:134464 off:2A9F5FC0
\effect\fighter\ef_kirby.pac, size:159168 off:2AA16D00
\effect\fighter\ef_koopa.pac, size:105120 off:2AA3DAC0
\effect\fighter\ef_link.pac, size:218496 off:2AA57560
\effect\fighter\ef_lucario.pac, size:153696 off:2AA8CAE0
\effect\fighter\ef_lucas.pac, size:243616 off:2AAB2340
\effect\fighter\ef_luigi.pac, size:18016 off:2AAEDAE0
\effect\fighter\ef_mario.pac, size:71584 off:2AAF2140
\effect\fighter\ef_marth.pac, size:105728 off:2AB038E0
\effect\fighter\ef_metaknight.pac, size:302720 off:2AB1D5E0
\effect\fighter\ef_mewtwo.pac, size:128 off:2AB67460
\effect\fighter\ef_nana.pac, size:128 off:2AB674E0
\effect\fighter\ef_ness.pac, size:240832 off:2AB67560
\effect\fighter\ef_peach.pac, size:113280 off:2ABA2220
\effect\fighter\ef_pikachu.pac, size:94208 off:2ABBDCA0
\effect\fighter\ef_pikmin.pac, size:172384 off:2ABD4CA0
\effect\fighter\ef_pit.pac, size:242496 off:2ABFEE00
\effect\fighter\ef_pokefushigisou.pac, size:144864 off:2AC3A140
\effect\fighter\ef_pokelizardon.pac, size:80224 off:2AC5D720
\effect\fighter\ef_poketrainer.pac, size:64672 off:2AC71080
\effect\fighter\ef_pokezenigame.pac, size:64256 off:2AC80D20
\effect\fighter\ef_popo.pac, size:54816 off:2AC90820
\effect\fighter\ef_pra_mai.pac, size:128 off:2AC9DE40
\effect\fighter\ef_purin.pac, size:106720 off:2AC9DEC0
\effect\fighter\ef_robot.pac, size:305120 off:2ACB7FA0
\effect\fighter\ef_roy.pac, size:128 off:2AD02780
\effect\fighter\ef_samus.pac, size:102688 off:2AD02800
\effect\fighter\ef_sheik.pac, size:128 off:2AD1B920
\effect\fighter\ef_snake.pac, size:195904 off:2AD1B9A0
\effect\fighter\ef_sonic.pac, size:239232 off:2AD4B6E0
\effect\fighter\ef_szerosuit.pac, size:133280 off:2AD85D60
\effect\fighter\ef_toonlink.pac, size:102048 off:2ADA6600
\effect\fighter\ef_toon_sheik.pac, size:128 off:2ADBF4A0
\effect\fighter\ef_toon_zelda.pac, size:128 off:2ADBF520
\effect\fighter\ef_wario.pac, size:78464 off:2ADBF5A0
\effect\fighter\ef_warioman.pac, size:128 off:2ADD2820
\effect\fighter\ef_wolf.pac, size:108160 off:2ADD28A0
\effect\fighter\ef_yoshi.pac, size:92640 off:2ADECF20
\effect\fighter\ef_zakoball.pac, size:128 off:2AE03900
\effect\fighter\ef_zakoboy.pac, size:128 off:2AE03980
\effect\fighter\ef_zakochild.pac, size:128 off:2AE03A00
\effect\fighter\ef_zakogirl.pac, size:128 off:2AE03A80
\effect\fighter\ef_zelda.pac, size:155776 off:2AE03B00

Oh and before you ask, the Zakos are the Alloys.

 

[SuperLink9]

Where's the Isaac assist trophy?

EDIT: Also, if this is about "alt. costumes" then where is Wario's classic costume? They can't be alt costumes if Wario's alt. costume isn't even listed there...

 

[Shuma]

You know... in power, the Wii is crap, so maybe they didn't fit.

 

[sffadsad]

EDIT: If these "alt. costumes" really are in the game, then where are they? Why haven't we seen them yet?

Well there's also the question of why we have yet to see the Ridley assist. Of course I'm not going to believe any of this stuff since so much of it is iffy. I mean why would Shaymin be included when America isn't even supposed to know about it yet? Also just because people are Japanese doesn't mean that everything they say about games is true.


I'm going with leftover bits of data on this one...

 

[DMAJohnson]

Where's the Isaac assist trophy?

\effect\assist\ef_robin.pac, size:18048 off:2A1CC9C0

 

[ChronoBound]

Where's the Isaac assist trophy?

EDIT: Also, if this is about "alt. costumes" then where is Wario's classic costume? They can't be alt costumes if Wario's alt. costume isn't even listed there...

Isaac's name in Japan is Robin. Also, I don't like it how everyone is excusing Sakurai's incompetance regarding the cut Assists and Pokemon. This is the Japanese version, so the excuse about Shaymin holds no water. Also, you can't carry that excuse over to Regigigas and Onix.

I don't like how everyone is just going "LOL just left over data from earlier in development" and "LOL Those Assist and Pokemon never existed to begin with". There is much more to this than you guys are willing to accept. And I am going to do my best to find out.

 

[SuperLink9]

All I can say it, Nintendo had better make a great 8th gen console (being weaker than last gen would be the lowest of the low) so SSB4 can have all 1000 characters Sakurai promised and lied to us about.

EDIT: Ah... Robin... phew

If Isaac is an assist, and there's Golden Sun music, I personally couldn't care less about anything else

The only incompetance Sakurai might have is decloning Ganon and Toon Link, but apart from that we get on as good as ever.

 

[Andydark]

...The URL on the first page redirects me to 2girls1cup as well as lemonparty.

How delightful.

 

[ROOOOY!]

I hope this is true, Roy deserves to appear in some form..
I'm doubting it, though.

 

[Endless Nightmares]

err...is the link on the first page supposed to link to 2girls1cup? /

 

[Chojo]

Am I the only one that noticed that his link takes you to 2girls1cup? =__=

Why don't you guys try clicking it and see for yourself...

 

[thetoastinator]

um....the link....is not what it is supposed to be I think.....*shivers* Don't click it!

 

[SuperLink9]

Well ChronoBound, what do YOU think is the reason behind all this? If the disc rip is as important as people say, then why could those Pokémon and ATs possibly be missing? Noone is going "lol they never existed to begin with". People are just looking at the given evidence.

If Mewtwo is found playable in Brawl in any form, believe me I'll be very very pleased, but I just don't think it's going to happen. Why get your hopes up over incomplete data?

 

[ROOOOY!]

Thankfully, the link didn't work the first few times I tried it
That old goat..

 

[Saor Gael]

I'm suspicious of this, since it seems to lack a lot of things we're supposed to have.

However, if it is true, I have a bit of a hypothesis; perhaps Sakurai will later on release somethng that will activate those skins as extra costumes, giving us alternate characters without REALLY doing it.

Perhaps that's the story with some of the ATs, too. Especially the mysterious Ridley one.

Let me ask something real quick; when it says the SIZE, it means the size in bytes, correct? So Dedede is about 300 MB?

 

[Hejiru]

There's only 27 ATs? Somehow I got the impression there would be a ton...

Can somebody give me the list? The link leads to an ...... "adult" site.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I'm suspicious of this, since it seems to lack a lot of things we're supposed to have.

However, if it is true, I have a bit of a hypothesis; perhaps Sakurai will later on release somethng that will activate those skins as extra costumes, giving us alternate characters without REALLY doing it.

Perhaps that's the story with some of the ATs, too. Especially the mysterious Ridley one.

Let me ask something real quick; when it says the SIZE, it means the size in bytes, correct? So Dedede is about 300 MB?

If you really think about it...that doesn't even make any sense...

BTW, they would need different skins AND models...

 

[Jellybelly]

So Rosalina was confirmed at whobby but has since either been cut or is a very hard to find unlockable

hmmm *Twizzles beard*

*Gets out magnifying glass and loyal companion called Watson* I'll get to the bottom of this!

 

[Endless Nightmares]

\toy\fig\Snakenaked.brres, size:994176 off:B52035DC

D:

LMAO .

 

[plshrk729]

wat the hell is up with that site. was i redirected cuz there was some awful **** on that site. wat the ****!!!

 

[plshrk729]

OMG was i seriously taken to the wrong site. I dunno wat happened but that stuff was screwed up

 

[Jellybelly]

I clicked on the link earlier and it took me to a page filled with smash related writing

Unless it was binary porn?

100101110110100111 = Binary porn

 

[ChronoBound]

Well ChronoBound, what do YOU think is the reason behind all this? If the disc rip is as important as people say, then why could those Pokémon and ATs possibly be missing? Noone is going "lol they never existed to begin with". People are just looking at the given evidence.

If Mewtwo is found playable in Brawl in any form, believe me I'll be very very pleased, but I just don't think it's going to happen. Why get your hopes up over incomplete data?

The only reason I see for the cut content is that Sakurai is going to release an expansion pack somewhere down the road that uploads all the cut content into Brawl, and they'll charge $20 for it, and like the suckers we are, we will buy it Day 1.

 

[Dynamik]

"(url removed)"

 

[GaryCXJk]

My opinion?

I believe the characters were originally planned to be event characters, just like the alloys. The reason why they're so small in size is because they probably only have the model data in them. The animations are used from other characters. Hence the file size of the Samurai Goroh assist trophy.

If you look at the alloys, you can see they too have a small file size. This could only mean they use the same game data as other smashers, perhaps with altered stats.

 

[Your Hero]

There's already a thread for this..

 

[SuperLink9]

Heh, that won't make us suckers they release expansion packs for Halo games for similar prices.

Bet you us in UK would get it for £20. Even though £ is worth more than $. Same thing happened with Crossbow Training. Typical we have to pay more >.>

Personally I don't even see that happening though. If there were truly ATs in a DEMO version, then I don't see why they wouldn't be in the final game.

 

[TheLake]

*shrugs* Id so main dixie if any of this is true *nods*

*puts a flower at krystals grave*

 

[Jellybelly]

Dixie would make up for Krystals absense.

Brawl needs a female character!

*Puts platinum wig on wario*

...It's just not the same...

 

[Hejiru]

Wow, could they do that? Make expansion packs? That would rock.

 

[Hejiru]

Dixie would make up for Krystals absense.

Brawl needs a female character!

*Puts platinum wig on wario*

...It's just not the same...

That and your sig both made me laugh out loud.

 

[fums63]

wheres the AT list? all i see is the number