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1. You agreed with some of my sentiments on Orange. 2. If he's townie, then it just means he didn't play it correctly and needs to learn from his mistakes. Basically, he should have been less emotional and more rational, and should have made that observation earlier than just omgus Prota. (Even if what he said after the fact was true, it doesn't look that way to me and others)
One sec, answering questions from Twitchy. Also, for future reference, if I'm on before 3-ish, I probably won't post (unless it's something fairly short) because I'm usually checking mid-class after I'm done with an assignment and the next one hasn't started yet.
We both just did a 180 because of mod-confirmed info that one of the three of us is scum.
It was a reasonable, round estimate for the minimum number of posts for thread control (seeing as it is a bit less than twice what the most frequent poster had D1).
I still thought you were town in the post you were referencing in the "again, why the sudden shift?", but I saw that worst-case scenario for town would be a NL at that point, so I would have been willing to compromise to anyone. The reason for the sudden shift is already posted in #450. I agree that Phoenix's arguments aren't all well-grounded and if he didn't do so much to help town this phase I would say that he's trying to push a lot of slots out of desperation to look like he's scumhunting (if I recall correctly, his first vote on me and his first vote on BarMaven were about 3 minutes apart), but I see literally no incentives for being so active as scum and wanting to increase thread activity. You could argue that he wanted to do that to look townie, but I'm pretty sure that if activity didn't increase significantly, the thread would have just died and scum would have won anyways. The only possibility I could think of is if he were an indie slot and felt he needed complete thread control, but even if that is true, town will autolose if mafia isn't lynched this phase.
You being genuine or not depends upon if you actually misinterpreted the role PM or if you used that as an excuse to justify a complete 180 on Polish.
I thought your wagon analysis was good, other than the fact that you're making statements about game balance while we only have 3 people with confirmed slots thus far. I feel like a third of the game isn't enough info to make justifications based on balance, especially since we don't know either of the mafia roles.
1. It's either wrong or right. Why would you be willing to let a slot die on reasoning you think may or may not be right? That doesn't make sense from a town mindset. Again, if you knew it was a suspicious, why do it when you were claimed cop? Plus, you claiming showed your true scumness. Sometimes people become more involved or feel invincible, so they do more things to help town because they know everyone else knows, they can trust that person. Yet you took advantage of it. You got lazy, and stayed mobile. You voted Orange with Ycare of the world of his flip. Again, it shows you don't care to help move town forward. You claiming helped you get pressure off, and then you did the opposite of what a town wincon would ask of you: You got lazy. No scumhunting, and wanting to survive = scum.
Didn't think of a scum having a daykill, but wouldn't the scum slot just use the daykill right now if he could? It would prevent the day from ending in a Mafia lynch and thus would result in a mafia victory. If you still feel like a claim is inappropriate this phase we don't have to do it, but I'm not sure if a scum daykill is a good reason to not roleclaim.
If there is, it wasn't done iintentionally. I usually try to disguise my PR and not drop any hints before a claim. If scum would have suspected me as a PR, they might have killed me earlier.
At this point, seeing as there are 6 players left, I'm pretty confident that there are 2 scum (one in this pool, one in the next).