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Try getting people play against who play those characters so you can start to look for how high they bounce their jump heights, try different grabs.. Look for kill percents. Sheik has an amazing crouch cancel so the jab is not good against her.
d-tilts and f-tilts work well against sheik form what I've experienced. If you can, don't let him get below you obviously. Not much Ganon can do in air besides a highly predictable dair.
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Not exactly, if I made an input error then Fox punishes me for it.. it doesn't mean he has the momentum, it means I have made mistakes that costed me the game. Remember that you can always turn the game around, the momentum means the Fox would corner himself a lot because he was scared. It's clear as day in the video that's what he's doing. Anyways, I already played a lot on monday and will do so tonight as well and A LOT more in the future.. im ****ing tired of losing because of input errors when I know I can beat these guys without struggling that much. I need to get the full power back when I could contend with the best. Mango beat me pretty hard this tourney but I didnt feel like it was impossible, he just punished me at really bad spots and I missed a lot of things, I rewatched the vids.. it makes me salty as hell lol.That last game looked like there was a total momentum shift. You had all the momentum the first two stocks, but then the last two, Weon-X had all the momentum. It really sucks playing a Fox when he has that kind of momentum.
Useful for catching opponents on platforms as a pseudo-tech-chase, you can use it to combo Marth after a downthrow, and the first hit can be useful to extend a combo. Kage probably knows more applications that I do cause he uses it a lot.
Double jumping huh? Careful with that.. That habit of DJing after getting hit needs to go.. or even just DJing when the opponent is near.
Very good to juggle opponents and also to put opponents on platforms... both instance you have to hit it on the first hit. And putting people on platforms = easy techchase read. Downthrow into Nair on works at 0 on Marth, Peach for example. Usually it's good to do on floaties at low % since you can pop them up then put them in a bad position or at mid % on fast fallers for juggling too.
Actually, I started to experiment with it in other ways yesterday. I like to throw out uairs vs fox in case of an areal approach, but Ripple started noticing that I did that, so he would wait for the uair and then come in and punish. Nair will trade with a fox approach and doesn't allow for fox to come in and punish the same way as he would normally for a whiffed uair. He got hit by it a couple times. It's not super viable, but it's definitely a mixup if you're getting punished on your uair game.
LOL.. Brings back memories.
The only reason I did is because it was a huge punish rather than just punish the ledge jump with uair and he had no jump at low %... so why not? lol Double hit nair into fair.
Ftilt into Jab is one for sure if they decide to jump after Ftilt on shield but it's not super good though as you'll be generally pretty far for jab to hit. (But if you are close and they jumped after ftilt, jab will probably hit)
There are some crazy good combos you can do with just down-throw, jab and dtilt. Racks up easy %
