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Genei Ibun Roku #FE Protagonists Thread (OP Updated with Itsuki Moveset and Arguements)

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SMT x Fire Emblem Stars Makes a Grand Appearance!


What's this J-Pop Pandering Mess All About?
Genei Ibun Roku ♯FE(幻影異聞録シャープエフイー Gen'ei Ibunroku Shāpu Efuī, lit. "Revelation of the Illusion ♯FE") is an upcoming crossover role playing video game in development by Atlus and Intelligent Systems for the Wii U, based on the two companies' Megaten and Fire Emblem franchises, respectively. It is an upcoming title that is stated to be released near the end of this year for Japan and next year for the West, the latter similar to another anticipated Fire Emblem title. The name "Ibunroku" was previously used in the original Japanese titles of Revelations (Megami Ibunroku Persona) and Sin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor (Megami Ibunroku: Devil Survivor).
Genei Ibun Roku ♯FE
is a role-playing game which combines elements of both the Shin Megami Tensei RPG series and the Fire Emblem tactics series. This largely lends itself to the main characters, who merge themselves with Mirages based on Fire Emblem characters during battle. For example, the main protagonist, Itsuki, merges with Chrom from Awakening. Outside of battle, players can interact with characters, visit shops, and access a texting system. When exploring dungeons, players can attack on-field enemies to stun them, allowing them to have an advantage in battle or avoid them altogether. Battles in the game incorporates systems from both games, including Fire Emblem rock-paper-scissors mechanic of melee weapons and Shin Megami Tensei elemental properties. In additions to the various skills each party member possesses, some skills trigger Session Attacks where all party members attack in a combination. During these sessions, sub-characters can be called in to attack, and pairs of characters can activate combined techniques.
The game takes place in Shibuya in Tokyo, following the lives of the young members of the Fault Entertainment talent agency. These youths become "Mirage Masters", who have the power to merge with Mirages, souls of warriors from another world. While some Mirages are kind-hearted and help out the Mirage Masters, others seek to cause chaos and draw power from the emotions of innocent people, and it is up to the Mirage Masters to stop them. There's also the appearance of other Fire Emblem antagonists as bosses with radically different designs like the main Mirages themselves.


Who the hell are these fighting performers?

Given that no one really knows which one of the main characters will be picked as the representative for Genei Ibun Roku X FE, this thread will focus on all of the main fighters themselves. Each character plays a different role in the story or have their own Mirage to fight with. Some these characters are bound to be more popular than others due to having more screen time or capturing the attention of the main audience. But the most obvious picks would have to be Tsubasa Oribe and Itsuki Ao.


Itsuki Aoi - An ordinary high school student who suddenly awakened as an Mirage Master. He was forced into joining his friend's entertainment office, Fortuna Entertainment and thus has no strong aspirations towards it. He is honest and has a strong sense of responsibility, but can also be quiet and unsociable. He is able to take on the guise of the Lord class and his Mirage partner is Chrom, a courageous prince from another world. (His surname "Aoi" is the Japanese word for blue, the color of hair shared by most Lords.)


Tsubasa Oribe - A high school student and Itsuki's childhood friend, who awoke with him as a Mirage Master. Foolhardy and reckless, she has a one track mind and always gives it her all. She frequently messes things up, but never gets discouraged due to her optimistic personality. She is a fan of Kiria.She is able to take on the guise of the Pegasus Knight class and her Mirage partner is Shiida, a kindhearted princess from another world. (Her given name "Tsubasa" is the Japanese word for wings.)


Toma Akagi - A hotblooded classmate of Itsuki and Tsubasa who aspires to be a Heshin hero, he's an affiliate of Fortuna Entertainment and a Mirage Master. He appears to be a slacker, but actually goes out and does things first. His dream is to take the lead role in the tokusatsu show "Masquerader". He is able to take on the guise of the Cavalier class and his Mirage partner is Cain, a dauntless knight from another world. (The characters in Toma's given name refer to horses, while his surname means "red castle".)


Kiria Kurono - A stoic singer who receives a lot of support from young people, her stage name is KIRIA. She is a Mirage Master highly skilled in battle, and serves as a upperclassman to Itsuki and the others, guiding them to their goals. She appears as a "cool beauty", but few know her true face. She is able to take on the guise of the Mage class. (The "Kuro" in her surname means black; possibly a reference to black or dark magic.)


Eleonora Yumizuru - A half-Japanese half-Scandinavian girl who aims to be a star in Hollywood. She is a young up and coming actress as well as a Mirage Master. Despite being younger than Itsuki, she serves as his upperclassman as an entertainer and acts like a big sister towards others. Her nickname is Elly. She is able to take on the guise of the Archer class. (The kanji in her surname refer to bows, bowstring and chords.)

Mamori Minamoto - A talent and Mirage Master that belongs to the same public entertainment office as the protagonists. She’s an elementary school student that likes Showa era songs and clothing.

Mirage Moveset Capabilities and Abilities

As previously stated, the crossover's combat is turn-based and predicated on discovering and exploiting enemy weaknesses. As in both Shin Megami Tensei and Fire Emblem, enemies are weak to specific element or weapon types. The player can also trigger Session Attack combos where the other party members follow up the attacking character's blow with strikes of their own. As party members gain affinity, they can also learn dual attacks where pairs of characters can combine their strength to deal high damage. This could potentially used as a unique gimmick for any of the five protagonist that are chosen since it would be a great way to involve every character. So in a way, the character can work as a summoner along with the use of their own weapons (Rapier for Istuki, Lance for Tsubasa, Spear for Toma, Magic for Kiria, Axe for Mamori, and bows for Elly).

But that's not all, Mirages can also be involved in their playstayle for which they can act as sort of a stand that appears for certain attacks akin to JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. In the game itself, certain attacks from the characters themselves even involve summoning these Mirages for the more stronger attacks. Even a potential Final Smash could involve a double attack between the protagonists and their Mirage (depending on which character has one).


Arguments From the Performa-less Souls

These guys are too new or not old enough to be in Smash!

That may be true, but it doesn't have any effect on any character to be in Smash. A great example would be Greninja would would debut in Pokemon XY before he would be revealed in the vanilla roster in Smash. While Sakurai may have chosen this Pokemon while he was in his concept stages, it proves that he doesn't care whether a character is too new or not. Another great example is how we got a Wholly World stage in the base game before the game was even released and the fact there is DLC stage based on Super Mario Maker soon as the original game launched. That means there are chances that the company would want the team to promote the game regardless of any ballot votes, even if it;s as small as a stage to promote the game's release.

Ugh, we have too man freaking Fire Emblem characters!

You are technically right and wrong since this game is more of an original IP than a legit crossover. Sure it contains the copyrighted Fire Emblem characters as the Mirage partners to the original characters, but most of everything is completely original while borrowing elements of Shin Megami Tensei and Fire Emblem. So the characters would most likely have something original like the "#" symbol instead of the Jack Frost face or Marth's Falchion. And the SMT spells in addition to the Mirage system would be proven to be effective for a new, original fighting style that the current Fire Emblem cast lacks.

But this game is hated by fans of both series and Sakurai would not want to add something that is hated by them!

The Other M content would like to have a word with you. We all know that the game is considered the worst in the franchise and ruined Samus's character, but that still didn't stop the team from making most of everything (stage, Samus's design, etc) inspired by it in the long run. And may I remind you that we also have an abundance of clones (who are last minute appetizers as stated by Sakurai) and the video game equivalent of Scrappy Doo in the roster (who would eventually turn the heads of his former detractors from the 80's and 90's and redeem his controversial character). So whether or not the Megaten and Fire Emblem fanbase hates the crossover should have no effect on any content from it not appearing in Smash (DLC or the future).

But we don't know which one of them is more likely to be in Smash!

Again, it depends on who the original team finds worthy enough to be their own character. Toma, Kiria, Eleonora, and Mamori aren't very likely since they are side characters of the party despite having the more unique weapons/Mirages. In terms of who should represent Genei Ibun Roku #FE, it should be between Itsuki and Tsubasa. The former is the true main characters would would join Fortuna Entertainment with his friend despite his lack of interest in the industry while most of the story focuses on the latter who mostly appears in the trailers out of the entire cast to show off how the Fortuna Industry works. Lord Itsuki has Chrom as his partner and wields a rapier while Tsubasa is a Pegasus Knight with her lance and Sheeda as her partner. One of these two characters would be picked by Sakurai or the team that wants to promote GIR#FE in Smash while any other non-used characters can have roles on the Idolsphere stage that goes along with that character.

Moveset (Work in Progress)

Entrance Animation: Chrom appears in a flash before his master Itsuki (in his school attire) leaps above him for a pillar of light to engulf both. ld result into Ituski wearing his Carnage Form attire as a result of the two assimilating with each other and he elegantly raises his blade into the air.

Idle Animation: Itsuki would be standing in a calm manner with serious posture and a look of professionalism, as his cape flutters in between the animation. There are times when he would either twirl his blade or even flip his hair backwards with a smile.

Walk: He walks slowly while holding his blade to his side with a determined look.

Run: He makes a quick dash similar to Marth, but it's a bit less "controlled" and slightly slower.

Sleeping Animation: He falls asleep on his knees while still holding his blade and the cape drooping on his legs.

Dizzy Animation: He holds his forehead with his free hand and wobbles while struggling to hold his blade with a deep moan.

Dodge Animation: He does a quick dodge similar Marth.

Normals
Jab:
Itsuki swipes his blade once with Chrom appearing from his body to initiate another quick slice and his master deals the final stab. Continuously attacking after that last hit would result in Chrom dealing a flurry of slashes with his blade while Itsuki watches him from behind.
Forward Tilt
He does a quick backhand slice with Chrom following up with an upwards slash.
Up Tilt
Itsuki swings above himself with a serious face.
Down Tilt:
He deals a sideways slash while crouching.
Dash Attack:
Itsuki does a jumping slash while yelling with Chrom assisting with a similar gesture.
Neutral Air
Itsuki and Chrom deals a spinning slash together in a complete circle.
Forward Air
Itsuki commands Chrom to deal a powerful slash that acts as a Meteor Smash.
Back Air
Chrom does a vicious serious of slashes behind Itsuki while the later turns back cautiously. Chrom appears in a blur during this track since he's attack at a speed faster than the eye can see.
Up Air
Itsuki slashes above himself before Chrom follows up with another similar slash.
Down Air
Itsuki swings his blade downwards with his leg spread, meant to be an anti-air attack.

Forward Smash:
Itsuki raises his arm behinds him while Chrom appears with his weapon ready for an attack. He deals a blade slash attack and it can follow up with an upwards stab through Itsuki's command thanks to a second input (Think Toon Link's Double Forward Smash).

Up Smash:
Itsuki gathers electricity in his own blade while having his eyes closed in a charging stance. Then he yells while thrusting this blade into the air to initiate a powerful shock. This can function similar to Roy's Up Smash, with the lack of an explosion being the major difference.

Down Smash:
Itsuki holds his blade to the side as Chrom appears to the other side of him. Then the two would deal a powerful downwards slash to the opponent's feet for both sides.

Grab:
Itsuki summons Chrom before him to reach out his right hand while the later yells "Get over here!".
Pummel:
Itsuki commands Chrom to continuously stab him while that victim is within his hardened grip.
Forward Throw
Chrom slashes the foe at his/her chest to knock his foe away while Itsuki does an "Over there!" gesture.
Back Throw:
Chrom passes the foe to Itsuki, whole then does a powerful slash that knocks the foe behind the both of them.
Up Throw:
Chrom knocks the foe into the air for Itsuki to quickly deal an uppercut on the foe before he/she flies above them.
Down Throw
Itsuki commands Chrom to kneel the foe into the ground while the latter tries to absorb their energy with his other hand (references all Mirage's hunger for Performa). This would result in a dark energy being injected into the foes body and they would be left lying on the floor a la Snake's Down Throw.

Neutral Special: Lightning Spell: Zio/Zionga/Mazio/Mazionga
Itsuki would use this classic Shin Megami Tensei spell to charge electricity into his blade while looking intense. Depending on the charge, he would cast a spell by its name and attacks his opponents with it. Zio allows a minor flash of lightning to appear before him which is the default press or minimum charge. Zionga allows him to launch a large bolt of lighting as strong as Pikachu's Thunder before him at medium charge. Mazio allows him to launch a series of lighting flashes before him in a row (with a length of a weak Hadouken) at a much larger charge. Then Mazionga allows him to launch powerful lighting bolts around his entire body at a length of two Charizards at maximum charge. Like Robin, he would have to be completely still to charge and would only be allowed to fully move around with that charge when it's full.


Side Special: Session Attack

The first part of this attack would result in Itsuki dashing at the foe with his blade ready for an attack. If this connects, he would deal a Fatal Stab to their body to cause the foe to fly. Pressing the Special Method again would result in Chrom appearing near the foe to deal another deadly attack to the opponent to knock him/her away. Pressing it for the last time would result in Itsuki to home in towards his opponent and deal the final strong attack. This would the two to combo their opponents with a consecutive attack from far way.

Over all, there are different variations of how the move works based on the direction of the button where Itsuki or Chrom are near the opponent after they press the Side Special move. The foe can be knocked to the side, into the air, or towards the ground based on this inputs (there are no backwards attacks with this special). Though the move can be rather risky since the third strike can lead Itsuki flying off bounds with the opponent and fall towards the ground in a defenseless manner after the attack.

When used in mid air, it allows him to do an aerial dash and works very well as a great recovery move if there aren't any opponents in the way. It more or less functions the same with all three Side Special pressed when you are near an opponent or if you send Chrom after him.her during the second press.

Up Special: Performa Boost
Itsuki engulfs himself in the rainbow aura while holding his blade out in a calm manner. Based on the directional input, he would launch himself in that direction in a powerful burst of Peforma like a rocket. Pressing the attack button when an opponent is struck by this drilling move, allows Chrom to appear and knock the opponent away with a slash a la Meta Knight's Dimensional Cape.

Down Special: Rakukaja
Ituski would say "The power of Performa is within me!" while swingy his blade around with a blue light emanating from the blade. This would result in him holding it into the air and emanating a flash of blue light from his body. This would eventually allow himself to raise the defense of anyone that's near him in a Team Battle (or himself in a regular match) for a short amount of time (5-8 seconds).

The main thing with this spell is that he can now take the more heavier attacks without flinching or serious knock back while a blue light continuously glows from his body. While this may sound broken in context, it does have a few downsides like sacrificing his own speed and light weight to make himself a heavier target in battle. This would be proven dangerous if you are dealing with a fast opponent or having trouble recovering to the stage.

Final Smash: Void Blade


Based on one of his Critical Arts, Itsuki would toss his blade at the opponent while yelling "Chrom, assist me!". This is a Final Smash that depends on the number of opponents that are hit by the flying blade (which moves as far as your average Fire Emblem Critical Attack in Smash) and it triggers a cutscene where the attacked foes windup in the Idolsphere with a series of evil Mirages surrounding him. But all is lost when these supernatural baddies would be sliced away in a flash due to Chrom's blinding speed.


This would result in the shady Mirage appearing before his victims with his twin Falchions while yelling "It's time for you to die like those monsters!" in a frightening voice. Then he deals a few powerful slashes to his victims in the Idolsphere while the crowd cheers within each hit. Then he would eventually finish things off with a cross slash to send his opponents flying out the stage with the crowd cheering. Then it returns to regular gameplay with the foe flying (and possibly KO's based on their damage input) with Chrom appearing behind Itsuki while laughing. This would result in Itsuki doing a victorious pose with a smile before the latter reenters his body.

Taunt 1: Itsuki raises his blade into the air with a clam face and quickly swings it to the side as a reference to his in-game idle animation.
Taunt 2: He sakes out his cellphone and checks his messages with the familiar bottom click sounds being made during that "message". Then he hangs it up and his blade appears again when it's over.
Taunt 3: Itsuki swings his blade extravagantly with a smile and laughs while his cape flutters. Then Chrom appears to briefly scold him and his young master shrugs in an embarrassed manner.

Victory Animation 1: Itsuki slashes a few times seriously with Chrom appearing beside him for the last swing. "It's show time!" they both yell after that final slash.
Victory Animation 2: Itsuki reverts back into his Civilian Form in a flash and rubs the back of his head with a smile. His last words would be "That was a pretty hard performance, don't you think?" as Chrom appears to watch his fatigued master.
Victory Animation 3: Itsuki sings part of the lyrics for Reincarnation without his weapon while Chrom already appears next to him. This time he would place his hand on Itsuki's shoulder to stop him and the latter does a nervous laugh.
The Grand Support Hall for Fortuna Entertainment Performers

Team Itsuki
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I highly doubt characters made specifically for a crossover have any chance at all (see, the Sora affect), but it'd be nice to have a place to talk about the game without hearing people constantly whining about how Japanese a Japanese game is.

You should have their text match the team text.
 

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I highly doubt characters made specifically for a crossover have any chance at all (see, the Sora affect), but it'd be nice to have a place to talk about the game without hearing people constantly whining about how Japanese a Japanese game is.

You should have their text match the team text.
Was thinking about having the descriptions match the team color, then I've realized it would make the entire thread look consistent. Thanks for the advice.

This is also how I feel too and things would probably be better if the ballot itself was still open around the time the game comes out. Maybe the next game when it actually becomes its own franchise depending on Gebei Ibun Roku # FE's success. This could also be a test drive to see who around here is actually interested in the game or characters themselves. I know that @ Jason the Yoshi Jason the Yoshi and @ S SSBCandidates are the few people who would be interested.

Just for fun, I'll bet that Tsubasa will have the most supporters since she's more marketable and not a swordsman. That's why I'll be a part of her team for now since it will be the closest thing to having Caeda in Smash. ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°).



 

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Well if it's anything like that time in the Daisy thread, this will definitely be a fun place to hang around.

But just like then, I'm still not in support. Sorry.
 

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I'm sorry.
There's only one SMT x FE character I need.

Might as well make a Team Tiki section then since she screams "Optional Playable Character" to me. :troll:

Plus it would be an excuse to have Tiki in Smash as something from another series than Fire Emblem.
 

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As much as I am looking forward to Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem, I don't have any interest in this.

These are characters from a non-canon crossover between Fire Emblem and Shin Megami Tensei. They wouldn't add a non canon character in smash unless it's some sort of joke character like Dr Mario was.

Plus, these characters are likely owned by Atlus, which is a SEGA subsidiary. It's pretty much a fantasy at the first glance.
 

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No surprise that she's getting this much attention and this was made back around E3. She might as well be the "Lucina" for the game.

Also, I finally figured out who Eleonora's Mirage is and it's a certain archer from Radiant Dawn.
 
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No surprise that she's getting this much attention and this was made back around E3. She might as well be the "Lucina" for the game.

Also, I finally figured out who Eleonora's Mirage is and it's a certain archer from Radiant Dawn.
Just to say.
Whoever it is.
Their tag line should be "Tunes in!"
 

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Just to say.
Whoever it is.
Their tag line should be "Tunes in!"

Agreed, "Tunes In!" would be so much better and more straightforward. But it's DeviantArt and most artists there put little effort in their works.
 

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Both are from Shadow Dragon, the very first Fire Emblem game.

Are you thinking about supporting Toma or Tsubasa?
That makes sense. That first game is probably revolutionary enough that the characters are recognizable. But if the side characters are from the Marth saga... shouldn't the Chrom mirage be Marth? Interesting decision.

I would actually support either Itsuki or Toma if I had to choose between any of them. I don't think they'll ever make it, but I could be wrong.
 

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That makes sense. That first game is probably revolutionary enough that the characters are recognizable. But if the side characters are from the Marth saga... shouldn't the Chrom mirage be Marth? Interesting decision.

I would actually support either Itsuki or Toma if I had to choose between any of them. I don't think they'll ever make it, but I could be wrong.
Chrom over Marth does seem pretty interesting,especially if we take into account his popularity among the fanbase. Maybe they felt the need to give the former a bigger role since he couldn't make it in Smash. laugh:

When we had threads like Corrin and Xenoblade X's Cross in existence, I doubt anyone would really care about the likeliness of their subject. Though I can realistically see them as a contender when the fans warm up to the game or it becomes its own franchise like Xenoblade.

I'll just place you in the Itsuki House for now since he's a bit likelier than Tomo.
 

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For me it is between Itsuki and Tsubasa. Tsubasa seems to be the poster girl while Itsuki can be a way to get Chrome in, but we would have another sword user.
 

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For me it is between Itsuki and Tsubasa. Tsubasa seems to be the poster girl while Itsuki can be a way to get Chrome in, but we would have another sword user.
Tsubasa it is then. Will add you right away.

We never had a Pegasus Knight in Smash before and she can easily fill in for that role. And you are right about her being the possible poster girl since she easily got the most attention for two big reasons.

 

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Tsubasa it is then. Will add you right away.

We never had a Pegasus Knight in Smash before and she can easily fill in for that role. And you are right about her being the possible poster girl since she easily got the most attention for two big reasons.

I MISSED THE LIKE BUTTON AND THEY JUST LUNGED RIGHT AT ME.
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I MISSED THE LIKE BUTTON AND THEY JUST LUNGED RIGHT AT ME.
THIS THREAD WILL NEVER BE THE SAME, DO NOT ACCIDENTALLY EXPAND THAT IMAGE
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You want me to expand that image you say?



But hey, this is a game based on the ever popular J-Pop industry and you have to be very captivating to get a massive following. This could potentially hold true for her when the game gets out and people speculate for Smash 5.
 

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I MISSED THE LIKE BUTTON AND THEY JUST LUNGED RIGHT AT ME.
THIS THREAD WILL NEVER BE THE SAME, DO NOT ACCIDENTALLY EXPAND THAT IMAGE
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Hey!! As long as they're covered, it's not bad for my eyes. If they really were about 30% more exposed, that's when you go for the brain bleach.
 

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Make sure you put in Tsubasa listening to J-pop as a taunt to help complete the moveset! At very loud volume. It would be a top tier taunt among :4peach:'s and :4marth:'s. I dare not suggest the victory animations with her dancing and shaking.
 

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Make sure you put in Tsubasa listening to J-pop as a taunt to help complete the moveset! At very loud volume. It would be a top tier taunt among :4peach:'s and :4marth:'s. I dare not suggest the victory animations with her dancing and shaking.
Oh believe me, I'll make sure to add that when making the moveset. And I'm assuming that you're for Tsubasa too? :troll:

Well on second thought, I might as well give it a shot for support. I can't lose anything if it fails. I'd got for team Tsubasa.
Good choice, man. Good choice.
 

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Welcome to the dark side for which we have a pink Pegasus Knight as our mascot. Only a matter of time until more people start asking for her in the ballot because boobs. :evil:
 

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Tsubasa it is then. Will add you right away.

We never had a Pegasus Knight in Smash before and she can easily fill in for that role. And you are right about her being the possible poster girl since she easily got the most attention for two big reasons.

Sorry, but I am still not decided. Weird how you kind of agree on Tsubasa because of her "looks" since usually this is a mature board. lol.

Anyway like some say, in a way J-pop is a niche market worldwide; but not sure why some hate it for being too Japanese. I mean, I am sure these people would also find Mex-Pop for popular music from other nation as "ugly" because it does not fit world standards... but that is something for another thread.

And something else, considering Atlus is now part of Sega... could the second Sega rep come from here?
 

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Sorry, but I am still not decided. Weird how you kind of agree on Tsubasa because of her "looks" since usually this is a mature board. lol.

Anyway like some say, in a way J-pop is a niche market worldwide; but not sure why some hate it for being too Japanese. I mean, I am sure these people would also find Mex-Pop for popular music from other nation as "ugly" because it does not fit world standards... but that is something for another thread.

And something else, considering Atlus is now part of Sega... could the second Sega rep come from here?
Mature for this site is pretty subjective unless you take a look at the Zelda boards or Smash 4 Social topic. What I said was just a little joke on her growing popularity and I'll make sure to remove your name immediately. My bad.

It's not just the J-Pop that they hate, it's more along the line sod this game being something nobody wanted. When people thought of Shin Megami tense x Fire Emblem, they think of an epic crossover with the actual characters and a dark storyline. Instead, they wound up with a bubbly game that pokes fun at the Japanese industry and has a more colorful atmosphere than what they want. I can already name the number of Fire Emblem games that were grim dark (which are little to none) and the fire Shin megami Tensei games are no longer relevant anymore thanks to Persona. Reminds me of all the hate for Mario Tennis just because it wasn't a Strikers game or Golden Sun 4.

Now that I think of it, these characters would count as a secondary Sega rep since Atlus is under Sega Sammy Holdings for a while. They do have plenty of competition with the many other Sonci characters and Sega reps from other IP's (Tails, Knuckles, AiAi, Arle, NiGHTS, ect). :glare:
 

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Mature for this site is pretty subjective unless you take a look at the Zelda boards or Smash 4 Social topic. What I said was just a little joke on her growing popularity and I'll make sure to remove your name immediately. My bad.

It's not just the J-Pop that they hate, it's more along the line sod this game being something nobody wanted. When people thought of Shin Megami tense x Fire Emblem, they think of an epic crossover with the actual characters and a dark storyline. Instead, they wound up with a bubbly game that pokes fun at the Japanese industry and has a more colorful atmosphere than what they want. I can already name the number of Fire Emblem games that were grim dark (which are little to none) and the fire Shin megami Tensei games are no longer relevant anymore thanks to Persona. Reminds me of all the hate for Mario Tennis just because it wasn't a Strikers game or Golden Sun 4.

Now that I think of it, these characters would count as a secondary Sega rep since Atlus is under Sega Sammy Holdings for a while. They do have plenty of competition with the many other Sonci characters and Sega reps from other IP's (Tails, Knuckles, AiAi, Arle, NiGHTS, ect). :glare:
Actually the fact that people are saying the story isn't going to have dark elements if pretty stupid. Go look at the reveal trailers for most Fire Emblem games. They'd find that most of those tell us nothing of the story. All that we know about the story of SMTxFE really is some of the characters names and abilities, that's it nothing else really.

Are we sure that these guys are Atlus' property? You see Nintendo may actually have the rights to them, seeing as they may wish to avoid another Super Mario RPG situation, in which say in the next 2 console generations they want to put this game on the VC, by them owning most of the rights to the game, they ca just put the game up.

Also honest question guys: Would these guys get a new icon, since they technically are from a new game, but they could be slapped with the FE lots, since their powers are supposed to be coming from the FE characters?

Also I find it would be really cool if SMTxFE became Nintendo's version Kingdom Hearts, basically a game that is a crossover, but adds things to make it it's own thing.
 

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Actually the fact that people are saying the story isn't going to have dark elements if pretty stupid. Go look at the reveal trailers for most Fire Emblem games. They'd find that most of those tell us nothing of the story. All that we know about the story of SMTxFE really is some of the characters names and abilities, that's it nothing else really.

Are we sure that these guys are Atlus' property? You see Nintendo may actually have the rights to them, seeing as they may wish to avoid another Super Mario RPG situation, in which say in the next 2 console generations they want to put this game on the VC, by them owning most of the rights to the game, they ca just put the game up.

Also honest question guys: Would these guys get a new icon, since they technically are from a new game, but they could be slapped with the FE lots, since their powers are supposed to be coming from the FE characters?

Also I find it would be really cool if SMTxFE became Nintendo's version Kingdom Hearts, basically a game that is a crossover, but adds things to make it it's own thing.
Saying that it won't have dark elements to the story?
PERSONA 4: DANCING ALL NIGHT HAS DARK ELEMENTS TO THE DAMN STORY.
AND IT'S NOT EVEN STORY DRIVEN
 

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Huh. My initial reaction to finding out that SMTxFE wasn't going to feature any actual crossover characters was pretty negative, but reading up on how the battle systems will be implemented as well as how integrated the original characters are with the traditional FE classes as well as the Persona-style summoning actually has me pretty hyped about the game now!

It has exactly zero chance of being in Smash 4, but hey maybe in Smash 5 if the game does well. I know -I'll- be buying it.

I think Tsubasa is the likely candidate as well. If for no other reason than to get a Peg Knight representative into Smash in a way that's actually viable.
 

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Actually the fact that people are saying the story isn't going to have dark elements if pretty stupid. Go look at the reveal trailers for most Fire Emblem games. They'd find that most of those tell us nothing of the story. All that we know about the story of SMTxFE really is some of the characters names and abilities, that's it nothing else really.

Are we sure that these guys are Atlus' property? You see Nintendo may actually have the rights to them, seeing as they may wish to avoid another Super Mario RPG situation, in which say in the next 2 console generations they want to put this game on the VC, by them owning most of the rights to the game, they ca just put the game up.

Also honest question guys: Would these guys get a new icon, since they technically are from a new game, but they could be slapped with the FE lots, since their powers are supposed to be coming from the FE characters?

Also I find it would be really cool if SMTxFE became Nintendo's version Kingdom Hearts, basically a game that is a crossover, but adds things to make it it's own thing.
You may be one to something there, this could actually be a second party title even though Atlus is involved in the development. Intelligent systems is involved (probably due to given rights to the characters or designing them) and Nintendo pearly owns the publishing rights to the game. It's at least a bit more clear like Metroid: Other M (which is heavily involved in Smash 4) and less confusing like Hyrule Warriors (which is published by Tecmo in Japan).

Seeing the characters have their own icon makes much more sense since they are from something completely different than Fire Emblem and Shin Megami Tensei. Perhaps the "#" symbol from the title screen can be used or the Performa itself can be used due to being an important part of the plot.

If people actually give the game a chance and buy it, the chances of it being its own franchise can be high. After all, Xenoblade sold well enough to spawn a successor called Xenoblade X. I'm one of the few people who's sold on the game since the actually reveal.

Huh. My initial reaction to finding out that SMTxFE wasn't going to feature any actual crossover characters was pretty negative, but reading up on how the battle systems will be implemented as well as how integrated the original characters are with the traditional FE classes as well as the Persona-style summoning actually has me pretty hyped about the game now!

It has exactly zero chance of being in Smash 4, but hey maybe in Smash 5 if the game does well. I know -I'll- be buying it.

I think Tsubasa is the likely candidate as well. If for no other reason than to get a Peg Knight representative into Smash in a way that's actually viable.
I even seen some people saying that the gameplay and boss fight should have been shown in the E3 trailer instead of the cutesy introduction of every character. You would be surpassed at the number of people getting excited once they actually saw the gameplay.

Team Tsubasa it is, will add you in a bit. ;)
 
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This game always confuse me... I don't really sure what the hell is exactly this?

Persona (?) with Fire Emblem Cameos?


Whatever... Please Atlus, I want to see no-Akanea Characters.
 

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This game always confuse me... I don't really sure what the hell is exactly this?

Persona (?) with Fire Emblem Cameos?


Whatever... Please Atlus, I want to see no-Akanea Characters.
More like Fire Emblem having a drunken one nighter with Persona, which resulted in a combination of different gameplay and the whole theme of the corrupt J-Pop industry. :troll:

I did see Leonardo the blonde archer as Eleonora's Mirage in the E3 gameplay event, which appears to be the first Telius character referenced in the game. Here's to hoping we finally know who Kiria's true Mirage is since we had so little information on her.
 

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More Gebei Ibun Roku #FE news were revealed today which talks about the game's expected playtime and a few other things. The entire story for the game would take at least 30 hours to complete while an extra 30 hours would be included if you complete all sidequests.

Enemies from the Fire Emblem games will be included as well given that this is a crossover after all. But the last thing to be told us that only characters from Shadow Dragon and Awakening will be featured in the game. This may or may not be disappointing for some of you fans since fan favorite games like Blazing Swird and Path of Radiance might not be properly represented in the game. But I'm sure some might overlook this and enjoy the game did what it is.

But one thing this news mean is that the blonde archer I saw in the E3 showcase might not be Leonardo after all. Many of the Mirages in the game so far had colors that matched their original Fire Emblem appearance, even if it's a minor detail like hair color. I might as well do a bit more research to figure out the true identity of Eleonora's Mirage in the game.


http://gematsu.com/2015/07/genei-ibun-roku-fe-30-hours-clear
 

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More Gebei Ibun Roku #FE news were revealed today which talks about the game's expected playtime and a few other things. The entire story for the game would take at least 30 hours to complete while an extra 30 hours would be included if you complete all sidequests.

Enemies from the Fire Emblem games will be included as well given that this is a crossover after all. But the last thing to be told us that only characters from Shadow Dragon and Awakening will be featured in the game. This may or may not be disappointing for some of you fans since fan favorite games like Blazing Swird and Path of Radiance might not be properly represented in the game. But I'm sure some might overlook this and enjoy the game did what it is.

But one thing this news mean is that the blonde archer I saw in the E3 showcase might not be Leonardo after all. Many of the Mirages in the game so far had colors that matched their original Fire Emblem appearance, even if it's a minor detail like hair color. I might as well do a bit more research to figure out the true identity of Eleonora's Mirage in the game.


http://gematsu.com/2015/07/genei-ibun-roku-fe-30-hours-clear
Oh god... All the Akanea Love... Meh.

The Archer maybe is the blonde one that appears in FE1/3
 

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Oh god... All the Akanea Love... Meh.

The Archer maybe is the blonde one that appears in FE1/3
I've looked him up and you may be right about him being Jeorge. He might as well be considered a fan favorite if you can pair you Avatar with him in Mystery of the Fire Emblem. I'd say they did go a bit far with the redesign with the green Robin Hood get-up and white flowery hat, probably to make him the resident fangirl bait of the team.

The Awakening and Akanea bias is real, it's definitely because of the fans being more drawn to the more popular Fire Emblem titles. No Sacred Stones was to be expected, but No Telius or Elibe is surprising. Oh well, I can see these series being referenced in a possible sequel if it actually sells well since this literally screams "Kingdom Hearts".

On a side note, I'm getting suspicious as to if they might use Medeus the Earth Dragon as the Final Boss since he was the series' first true main antagonist. Then again, a fashion inspired dragon would be too cheesy to be taken serious given that he was a pretty tragic character. A 30 hour long RPG (60 with side quests) easily makes this a much buy game for anyone that might not being interested in Xenoblade X. Though it would be silly to expect anyone to not buy both games since the Wii U is pretty scarce on RPG titles. :laugh:
 

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Gamexplain released a new video on the game and it's actually not half bad. Most of it is more focused on the setting and characters for now while Part 2 could be all about the gameplay. I'm glad they are going out of their way to say that this is its own thing instead of being a full on crossover since the Shin Megami Tensei dudebros are still crying because it's not the "Ow the Edge" RPG they had been waiting for.
 
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Gamexplain released a new video on the game and it's actually not half bad. Most of it is more focused on the setting and characters for now while Part 2 could be all about the gameplay. I'm glad they are going out of their way to say that this is its own thing instead of being a full on crossover since the Shin Megami Tensei dudebros are still crying because it's now the "Ow the Edge" RPG they had been waiting for.
Maybe I could see this.

because it's now the "Ow the Edge" RPG they had been waiting for.
Wait... What? XD
 

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Maybe I could see this.



Wait... What? XD
I meant that the game itself isn't dark enough for them to handle due to being the kawaii bull**** they hate. We could wind up with a pretty dark story if that reveal with Tsubasa's cousin from the demo is anything to go by. After all, Atlus never disappoints with their high quality RPG's. :p
 
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