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Roy is at least more interesting than Lucina, just look at her she's a blue haired swordswomen who will be forgotten in the next fire emblem. At least roy was remembered due to smash, has red hair, fire effects and more differences than lucina and a bigger fanbase. Roy>Lucina when it comes to smash.
Who said they weren't important or popular?
...so your only reason to include Roy is nostalgia? Rather than trying to draw in new FE:A A fans with a character they know and love? Smash was always an advertisement, what's new about that?
Please, I would love to hear you're reasoning. I'm honestly curious what you're prerequisites for an "all-star" is
It used to not be such a scummy advertisement. Roy for melee sure, Lucario and Ike for Brawl yeah, Robin/Lucina/Shulk/Palutena/Dark Pit/Villager/Wii Fit Trainer/Miis/Greninja/Rosalina for smash 4 is overkill.
boy am I GLAD that you don't pick the roster.
Well you need to be one or a combination of the following. Iconic to a franchise on a large level, Important to a franchise on a large level, Very popular and have importance, or be Historically Important to nintendo. Consistency in a franchise also helps. No flavor of the month characters, they have to stand the test of time.
Mii's, really? And Palutena? Palutena has been in the Kid Icarus story since the first game. A lot of these characters appeared in games early on in the Wii's existence. The only characters there to appear after the release of the a Wii U are Greninja, Robin, Lucina and Dark Pit. Hyperbole does not prove your point.
You probably wouldnt be. You would see an old character like King K Rool and go who is that where is my Tomodachi Life or Ghirahim or random FE protagonist or Dr. Luigi. I would pick characters of actual worth.
Now that was my marketing complaint post, I fully think Palutena, Mii's and Villager had merit to be included (even though I have no interest in them (and even possibly wii fit trainer dammit for dumb reasons like sales))
You could make argument against Robin using this, but I don't see how Shulk doesn't fit all of these, especially with Xenoblade's popularity in Japan
If I had my say alot of characters who are in wouldnt be. Roy would have never happened in the first place and would have never resulted in a hurt fanbase when he was cut. But when comparing who is worse Id rather have Roy than Lucina for Roy's smash fanbase.
It's too bad that Lucina already developed a Smash fanbase then.
No, I love them too, but they aren't clones.
Xenoblade is one game and isnt a very popular one (although its apparently great!) its very niche and has one entry, if the series received more entries and shulk was still important to the series and his popularity grew then I would consider him for sure but definitely not at this point.
Yes it is too bad. The damage is already done.
The reason I even mention the is because they take move sets from other characters in there own way they aren't original. I still think that they are the most developed character in their own right since they are ment to be whoever u want then to be.
You do realize Xenoblade is the third in the series, right?
You sound so butthurt over Roy it makes me laugh. I'll be honest Roy sucks. Not only in FE but in Smash to. since we have all these new FE games now Roy shouldn't come back at all now. Why? Because we can have way more known to date or better lords than him, plus if anything Roy (koopaling) seems so much more satisfying to have than a clone who only uses fire. Lucina's a clone also but I want new characters not old rehashes.
Roy is none of those -and- he was a flavor of the month character.
Its better to keep the one that sneaked in then kick that guy out and let another sneak in who is unfamiliar. Heck the democratic guys even grew to except that first guy who snuck in.
If you read my other posts you see that I also hate roy but he is the lesser of two evils when comparing Roy with Lucina.
You know I hate roy right?
Lucina is definitely not poorly designed, but you are incorrect about Roy. You have to understand that the clones in Melee had the same animations and would look the same visually. But what you need to know is that their moveset behaved differently. The keyword here is "behave". As in their moves would LOOK the same, but in actuality they all have their own distinguish hitboxes, speed, weight, frames. etc. Resulting in very different metagames, you could not play and practice with Roy and expect the same results with Marth, far from it. In this regard, Roy was extremely different from Marth in every way. Even more than Lucina, while she is not an exact replica of Marth either, she is much, much closer to just being a Marth skin than Roy was in Melee.
How is Wii Fit trainer advertising for anything? There is no way that her inclusion in Smash will cause explosion in sales of Wii Fit U. Mii's aren't advertising, they don't even have a game to sell. If Nintendo wanted to advertises FE Awakening they would have added Chrom, not Robin. Instead they added the obviously more interesting character with the greater move set potential. If all they wanted to do was advertise games then Game and Watch, DHD, ROB and Ness would not be there, among others. I think you're blowing this marketing thing out of proportion
Sure.
They might be in the same universe but this is arguable. Its more a spiritual successor than sequel.
It cant be all marketing or they would delete a ton of the cast but almost all the newcomers are marketable. Wii Fit Trainer could be used to give an Icon to the Wii Fit series that honestly had no Icon and had a new entry for wii U.
Xenoblade is about as related to Xenogears and Xenosaga as Final Fantasy 13 is to Final Fantasy 2. Or as Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn is to Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon.
It didn't sell well in America because of limited printings. However the same can be said for Earthbound and Ness is obviously an all-star. It did, however, sell very well in Japan.
So Lucina is worse than ____ for... what reason?
Id call Ness a smash star, not an all star. He would be included as a retro if I magically had control over the smash roster but I doubt he would have been there from the very beginning.
