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Dixie can't logically work as a full clone of anyone.
Lucina is actually quite a bit less popular than Roy, Impa is very important to the franchise, and Dixie can easily work as a full clone although its lazy.
Do you mean that Roy is more popular in Smash support or in general? In general Roy is regarded as one of the less popular lords and Lucina is extremely popular, especially in Japan. This is reason enough to put her in over Roy, from a business standpoint, despite fan support.
Roy hasn't been in a game in a decade. Lucina is a major character in the biggest FE game ever.
Roy has more support to be in smash all around the world. If you dont believe me check shorties old polls that he took everywhere, Lucina was just the "new" thing. (omg waifu bait)
Cool, Roy's more popular than Lucina with Smash fans in the west.
Impa is one of the few characters who gets repeated through several games, even though they're separate stories with "different" characters. Off the top of my head, there's at least five different incarnations of Impa throughout the series. There's very few characters that are the same in that sense. She rarely actually has a big role in the game she's from (only exceptions being Ocarina of Time and Skyward Sword) but the fact that she's repeatedly given the "honor" of getting several incarnations alone makes her important to the series. Pretty much the only other characters who get repeated in the same way are the Triforce trio, Vaati, and Tingle.
Plz Lucina isnt that important to FE yet she's only been in one game, right now only Marth, Ike and Lyn to my knowledge have significance for the fe franchise. Roy is more important than Lucina to smash fans as well thats for sure.
Actually Japan wants Roy WAY more than we do. Thats were most of his votes came from. Shortie did good work with his polls taking them a ton of places.
You don't seem to get it. If the clone characters weren't in the game, they would not be replaced with new character, there would simply be 3 absent slots.
Oh, I agree with you completely. Roy definitely had more support than Lucina, but chances are if you're voting on poles about Smash Bros and posting on a forum dedicated to Smash bros, chances are you're going to buy the game. What characters like Lucina do is draw in people who have never been interested in a game like Smash who loved her character, increasing sales. I'm not saying it's right, even though I personally prefer having Lucina over Roy, but from a business standpoint it makes sense.
Says who? If there's enough room for new characters they should add new characters. That's why we actually got so many new characters.
I agree, this entire game imo reeks of businessmen
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Maybe to FE fans but not to smash fans and there are more smash fans than FE fans.
She's the most important of the one's listed. She's practically been in every Zelda with different iterations of her purpose & appearance.
And Roy was a badly designed character in Smash that really catered to no one. What's your point?
It doesn't reek of businessmen, it just makes sense business wise. Of all the companies that focus solely on profit to be made, Nintendo is not one of them. Lucina's inclusion is a smart decision that draws in more people, not something trying to drag more money out of you like some companies do with things like on-disc dlc.
Roy was put into Melee for the sake of advertising an upcoming game. Lucina's nowhere near as bad in that regard.
Pretty sure Lucy being a star of the biggest FE game ever had a bit to do with it. From what I've seen, aside from as a Smash Character, Roy's pretty forgettable. Really just feels like nostalgia keeping him around, while Lucy's popularity is going nice and strong. Besides, she wasn't intended to be in the game, she's just an upgraded skin. There wasn't supposed to be 4 FE characters, so Roy never had a chance, Lucina didn't 'take his spot.'
because of development time? like how do you not get this.
I hope you understand the logic of what you just said, but anyways.
Doctor Mario isnt more popular overall though than Mario himself throughout the smash fanbase derp.
A ton of the character choices were all about marketing unlike many of the selections in brawl and melee. Thats why I say this game reeks of suits wanting to market "new" games out there so people are like "whos Robin, who's Shulk" go check out their newer games, they arent all stars just new characters getting in becuz money.
I'm just pointing out a reason why people hate the clones. I really don't care who's in the game as long as it's fun.
Then I'd like to see the statistics* that says that Roy is more popular than Lucina.
I know but he grew a fanbase because of his inclusion (I would have never put him in the game in the first place just like lucina) its better to give the smashbase what they want instead of going for marketing bullcrap or omg shes female with blue hair its so different.
I guess its a good thing shortie went to several different websites to gather the info with a nonbiased approach. Also Im not saying roy is more popular in the FE base only the smash base. And the smashbase is bigger than the fe base so Id go with the more popular one.
Lucina and Dark Pit are gonna gain a fanbase within Smash too. What's the loss?
Were all these websites Smash forums?
Yeah and I hate that they get a free ride on the smash train when neither of them are All stars and dont deserve to be in the game. The point is why do something wrong twice when you can just do it the one time (roy) and keep those fans happy.
No and why wouldnt that be accurate thats stupid to think that the smashbase wouldnt want roy back when it would be clear by the numbers. Hell most people dont even know who lucina is but they know roy because he was in melee.
The people who mained roy (as crappy as roy is ) are more important than the people who could potentially main the crappy Lucina. Attachments were grown due to roys inclusion, there is no reason not to make those roy fans happy who were sad he was removed if you have time for a crappy full clone (like with dr. mario)
Not all stars? Robin and Shulk? You're joking right? Shulk is the protagonist of one of the best rated RPGS of the last generation and Robin is the protagonist of one of the best selling Fire Emblem games ever. Roy wasn't an all-star in melee. His game hadn't even been released. Just because some people didn't know them didn't mean that they weren't widely recognized and popular characters.
and you call sakurai biased? what the **** is this kind of thinking?
If you dont get why shulk and robin arent all stars then you wont if I try to explain it. Theres no need in wasting time because you will say he is even though they are new not that popular or well recognized and one has no important hold to the series while the other isnt guaranteed to hold importance to the series.