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Sabrewulf238

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So... quick tally everyone.

Do you think we'll get...

1. Six characters total, including the ballot character?

2. More than six as these characters were chosen before the ballot?
I think it'll be the second option.

It's possible that Sakurai planned 6 dlc characters initially and then Iwata came along with and said "Hey, make a few more from this ballot we're starting up.".

It should be pointed out that Sora tweeted after the ballot started saying they wouldn't be able to add that many characters. Which at least implies more than one ballot character.
 
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I've started playing FE7, and now I really (multiply to infinitesimal integer) want Lyn in Smash.
An infinitesimal is a quantity whose size approaches (in a mathematical sense) 0. The only possible integer which can satisfy this is 0. I am not sure 0 actually is an infinitesimal, but I'll ignore the potential mathematical fallacy and welcome you to the ranks of those of us who don't want Lyn at all. ;)
 

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So... quick tally everyone.

Do you think we'll get...

1. Six characters total, including the ballot character?

2. More than six as these characters were chosen before the ballot?
I'd say probably option 2 as my guess as I somehow get the feeling that Mewtwo, Lucas, Roy and Ryu were planned before the ballot.
 
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~ Valkyrie ~

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Fascinating.

Let's just all agree on one thing however.

With all the DLC combined, it'll be very, VERY difficult to beat Sm4sh's roster in the later games.

I first thought we'd get only 2 ballot characters, but it seems the idea of 2 last chars being pre-determined and Ballot being separate sounds now even better.

I hope we at least see K.Rool and Isaac among them, along with other widely requested fan favorites with good chance (Like Dixie).
 

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So... quick tally everyone.

Do you think we'll get...

1. Six characters total, including the ballot character?

2. More than six as these characters were chosen before the ballot?
Definitely option 2.

The ballot isn't over yet and from Mewtwo's announcement to the ballot's end is one year, which is enough to release 6 characters before they begin planning for ballot characters.

My opinion is that we'll get 6 pre-ballot characters + 3-4 ballot characters. A total of 9-10 DLC characters seems nothing out of the ordinary for a fighting game.

Tekken Tag Tournament 2 and stuff like Super Street Fighter 4 or Ultimate MvC 3 are coming to mind in regards to additional characters.

Let's just all agree on one thing however.

With all the DLC combined, it'll be very, VERY difficult to beat Sm4sh's roster in the later games.
I definitely agree with this. With DLC, we'll have close to 60 characters.
 
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This actually kinda fits into my theory...6 before the ballot. Please let me be right...that last trailer before the ballot characters.

"Kept you waiting, huh?":snake:
 

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This actually kinda fits into my theory...6 before the ballot. Please let me be right...that last trailer before the ballot characters.

"Kept you waiting, huh?":snake:
I'd still rather have Simon Belmont, especially now that he's at least one last remnant of good ol' Konami after Metal Gear who actually is more related to Nintendo-systems than Snake ever was.
 

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I think that having Snake is only fair because he was in Brawl.
 

Frostwraith

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This actually kinda fits into my theory...6 before the ballot. Please let me be right...that last trailer before the ballot characters.

"Kept you waiting, huh?":snake:
Snake returning would be so hype. Especially if Ryu comes as well.

Though, I'd like to see Wolf confirmed first.
 

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I think Wolf might have been worked on already, or is in the early stages of development. I cannot imagine them doing otherwise, he IS the most teased cut Brawl veteran after all with his stage codec converstation and what not.
 

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I think Wolf might have been worked on already, or is in the early stages of development. I cannot imagine them doing otherwise, he IS the most teased cut Brawl veteran after all with his stage codec converstation and what not.
The Lylat Cruise codec is taken directly from Brawl where it served as foreshadowing for his unlockable status there, so it kinds hasn't got a bearing on Smash 4.

Fox having that Wolf Flash though.

Pretty sure he was intended for this game. Just like Lucas.
 

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The Lylat Cruise codec is taken directly from Brawl where it served as foreshadowing for his unlockable status there, so it kinds hasn't got a bearing on Smash 4.

Fox having that Wolf Flash though.

Pretty sure he was intended for this game. Just like Lucas.
And if Lucas will also get released without Custom Moves, I bet Wolf will as well. Unless they are gonna patch in Mewtwo's Customs next with Lucas.

And maybe these Customs will actually give these characters different Specials, like we've all been suggesting in the first palce?

Mewtwo getting different B moves was a common suggestion, especially for Confusion and Disable.
 

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Honestly, for now I'm just gonna expect for there to be only six DLC characters in total.

I don't know, "9-10" characters just seems waaaaaaaaay too optimistic to me. Has there ever been a fighting game with THAT much character DLC? They usually only have around 3-6.
 

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6 DLC characters? Mewtwo, Lucas, Roy, Ryu and Wolf already count for 5... I say it's a safe bet to expect 3~4 more.
 

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6 DLC characters? Mewtwo, Lucas, Roy, Ryu and Wolf already count for 5... I say it's a safe bet to expect 3~4 more.
6 have been specified because of there being 6 "slots" that we assume are open for DLC characters probably already in development (or at least planned at this stage).
 

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A part of me wants 11 dlc characters just so the final roster ends up at a tidy 60 but I know that Sakurai wouldn't be worrying about that at all.
 

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I don't know, "9-10" characters just seems waaaaaaaaay too optimistic to me. Has there ever been a fighting game with THAT much character DLC? They usually only have around 3-6.
There are fighting games with around 9-10 DLC characters (such as Tekken Tag Tournament 2), so I think such a number could be possible for Smash.

Though my expectation lies around 6-7 characters, Mewtwo and Lucas included.
 

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It depends if we get any more veterans and/or clones/semi-clones as DLC (Which seems to be the case from the looks of things) then I can probably see more. I'm also interested in how many more stages we will see for either version's but I guess that's a discussion for another thread.
 
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Not sure if this was talked about, but @Chandelure said that these were more leaked files by the guy that datamined the Roy and Ryu files. It just says "Mario" a bunch of times, which are more than likely placeholders for the actual characters. So this MIGHT mean we will get at least 5 more unknown DLC characters.
Baby Mario, Cat Mario, Metal Mario, Paper Mario, and Shadow Mario, confirmed! :troll:
 

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What if they do two packs of 6 characters? 6 planned characters and 6 ballot characters. The internet would probably explode.
 

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An infinitesimal is a quantity whose size approaches (in a mathematical sense) 0. The only possible integer which can satisfy this is 0. I am not sure 0 actually is an infinitesimal, but I'll ignore the potential mathematical fallacy and welcome you to the ranks of those of us who don't want Lyn at all. ;)
Alrighty then. Let me rephrase that:

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Scoliosis Jones

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I'm still convinced my theory could turn out to be true. Shameless plug.

Mewtwo, Lucas, Ryu, Roy are coming. 4 out of 6 slots. Wolf. 5. Snake or mystery character, 6/6. Snake because it would essentially tie loose ends with the veterans

The ballot isn't over until October, so it would be weird for them to start having characters from that before then. Logically, its 6 prior to the ballot because they wouldn't start work on them yet.
 

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Alrighty then. Let me rephrase that:

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1312^1000? That would break even the most hardened calculators. :p

EDIT: Or maybe not. It's still a 3118 digit number though. In any case I'm glad that you like FE7 that much. :)
(I should page Dr. Kawashima here.)

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Her erotic behavior may potentially be reduced to a friendlier level, but it would still be Bayonetta regardless
No it won't, plain and simple. This is Smash Bros, not the strip joint. All they would be doing is watering her down, and that isn't even Bayonetta. Bayonetta uses her hair, her guns, her clothes to fight and one of the consequences for her clothes and hair is she shows skin when she fights. Not to mention, is that the kind of character that people want in Smash? If you go and water a character's moveset down, all she is nothing more but another genetic fighter
 
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Alrighty then. Let me rephrase that:

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when using exponents, parenthesis are your friends.
I fix
Alrighty then. Let me rephrase that:

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see now it's even more ridiculous of a number :troll:


im feeling extra snarky today :p
 
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im feeling extra snarky today :p
Quite fitting for someone with a Viridi avatar. :p

What if they do two packs of 6 characters? 6 planned characters and 6 ballot characters. The internet would probably explode.
Too optimistic, imo. I'm not expecting more than 3 ballot characters. Though you're right about the internet exploding.

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You know what would be awesome?

If DLC came with Assist Trophies.

Lucas= Kumatora and Claus Assist
Ryu= Chun Li Assist, etc.
That's actually a pretty wicked idea

Except how much of license would it work for the third party characters?
 
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Personally, I would rather we get more characters from smaller franchises as DLC over, and not to step on anybody's toes out of malice here, a Mario made of paper or something. So really, I suppose I'd have to say that I would want K.Rool to get in over anything/anyone else (except Ridley).

I don't know, Paper Mario just seems really uninspired as a DLC character, even despite the hype he has. It's just a Mario....with paper's elements. He wouldn't be a clone, but he'd just be yet another goddamn Mario character, and we already have those devouring Smash space like a group of pigs. :p

not sure if this should go here or the unpopular opinions thread, doh.
 
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You know, I think that everyone has the same views on ATs. On one hand: Summoning them can be a thrill for fans of the characters. On the other hand: Fans dislike the AT because they wanted the characters to be playable
except that might mean bugger things for the next game. :4littlemac:

If say. . .Wonder Red was an assist trophy I would be okay with that because
1. More publicity
2. potential upgrade


it's better than being left in the dust imo.
of course there are exceptions ridley
 
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If you don't want any angry fans hunting you down to the end of the world, Unpopular Opinions thread.
Bah, let them at me. I've dealt with worse than a couple of pissy fans going at me because I don't share their opinions. :p

This is the same person who's been adamant about a playable Ridley in Smash since the beginning. A couple of typed words declaring me "a hater" for daring to say negative things about their characters ain't nothin' to me. :p

But OT: I definitely think K.Rool is a pretty required newcomer, especially since he's so highly requested and is from a franchise that has enjoyed a sucessfull revival.
 
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