Character Discussion Thread

[SMAASH! Puppy]

An then they were demoted to transportation. Aside from that. I skimmed through a video of someone's playthrough of Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate. What was supposed to be an easy mission took him fifteen minutes. I don't have that much patience.

 

[N3ON]

If Capcom ever fully goes belly up Nintendo should snag Mega Man, Monster Hunter, Ace Attorney, and the Clover IPs. Sony can have Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, and Dead Rising.

Microsoft gets nothing.

 

[Deleted member]

Nope.avi.

It may change soon or later, but as of now, looks like Ryu and co. don't have that much of a chance to be playable.

It may depend on the character/game, since it doesn't sound like he's saying "no fighting game characters period".
By what he's saying, even if a character is well-established as a fighter and has popularity, they still need to set themselves apart from the other combatants.

Using Ryu as an example, he is rather basic and offers nothing that hasn't been done already.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Microsoft gets nothing.

*sees sig* Explains enough I'd say

 

[Arcanir]

If Capcom ever fully goes belly up Nintendo should snag Mega Man, Monster Hunter, Ace Attorney, and the Clover IPs. Sony can have Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, and Dead Rising.

Microsoft gets nothing.

Meanwhile, Breath of Fire remains ignored, lost forever in the sands of time...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Meanwhile, Breath of Fire remains ignored, lost forever in the sands of time...

I'd say SE, but SE is **** recently

 

[N3ON]

Meanwhile, Breath of Fire remains ignored, lost forever in the sands of time...

I'd have listed it if I thought it would actually get another title (not counting nonsense iOS BoF).

Frankly even if someone else took control of that IP I'm not convinced they would do anything with it...

 

[Arcanir]

I'd have listed it if I thought it would actually get another title (not counting nonsense iOS BoF).

Frankly even if someone else took control of that IP I'm not convinced they would do anything with it...

True, it does seems like it's just one of those IPs that no one really knows what to do with, and it'd probably remain dormant no matter what happens.

Having said that, maybe it could get a trophy in Smash if Nintendo got it, that'd still be a nice nod to it.

I'd say SE, but SE is **** recently

Yeah, I wouldn't expect better treatment from SE either, mostly because then it'd be fighting with at least two other much more popular RPGs for their attention.

 

[RoseyBetch]

I really want Sonic to just become 2nd party so we can get Eggman/Robotnik in Smash (even though Bowser Jr. already took his gimmick).

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I really want Sonic to just become 2nd party so we can get Eggman/Robotnik in Smash (even though Bowser Jr. already took his gimmick).

SEGA is pretty much dying so I'd say yes. Also Metal Sonic plz

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

I really want Sonic to just become 2nd party so we can get Eggman/Robotnik in Smash (even though Bowser Jr. already took his gimmick).

Dr.Eggman is the second Sonic character I want the most (even though I know a second Sonic character isn't likely, or necessary). I could see him use that mech he used in Sonic the Fighters.

 

[N3ON]

Sega may be drowning but they're going to hold onto Sonic for dear life as long as they can.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Sega may be drowning but they're going to hold onto Sonic for dear life as long as they can.

It's their only franchise that they still use, so that's true

 

[RobinOnDrugs]

SEGA will continue to milk Sonic for as long as possible.

It's very unlikely that they'll ever give their most successful franchise to Nintendo, or any other developer.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

I can only really see Sega selling Sonic to Nintendo if they completely go bankrupt, and are forced to sell their IPs.

 

[skylanders fan]

If spyro was a dlc charcter what would his design/moveset be based on (I hope it the classic spyro with a possible skylanders one as an alt)

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I can only really see Sega selling Sonic to Nintendo if they completely go bankrupt, and are forced to sell their IPs.

The sold Shenmue to Sony last year, didn't they?

 

[N3ON]

If it ever came to pass that Sega needed to sell itself off, I imagine they would choose Nintendo as their preferable buyer, as Sega IPs (well mostly Sonic - but then again Sega is mostly Sonic ) have done best on Nintendo systems, Wii U notwithstanding. The question would then be if Nintendo would be amenable to purchasing them, something Nintendo rarely does, and has never done with a company the size of Sega.

However Sega is still doing fine in Japan with their arcades and otherwise niche titles, so it's not a situation that would likely present itself unless things got much worse for them.

The sold Shenmue to Sony last year, didn't they?

I don't think so... do you have a source?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

If it ever came to pass that Sega needed to sell itself off, I imagine they would choose Nintendo as their preferable buyer, as Sega IPs (well mostly Sonic - but then again Sega is mostly Sonic ) have done best on Nintendo systems, Wii U notwithstanding. The question would then be if Nintendo would be amenable to purchasing them, something Nintendo rarely does, and has never done with a company the size of Sega.

However Sega is still doing fine in Japan with their arcades and otherwise niche titles, so it's not a situation that would likely present itself unless things got much worse for them.


I don't think so... do you have a source?

D'oh, misunderstood the source, Sony wanted a Shenmue game, not buy the IP

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

If it ever came to pass that Sega needed to sell itself off, I imagine they would choose Nintendo as their preferable buyer, as Sega IPs (well mostly Sonic - but then again Sega is mostly Sonic ) have done best on Nintendo systems, Wii U notwithstanding. The question would then be if Nintendo would be amenable to purchasing them, something Nintendo rarely does, and has never done with a company the size of Sega.

However Sega is still doing fine in Japan with their arcades and otherwise niche titles, so it's not a situation that would likely present itself unless things got much worse for them.

I dunno. Even if SEGA continues to fall downwards, there's still SEGA/Sammy Holdings to worry about, so it might still be a bad idea.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

SEGA's best bet at this point may be to sell off their big franchises, strip down to a smaller company, and focus on their Japanese niche fan base. Worldwide, large releases, like Sonic, is what's killing the company right now, they lose money every time they release one.

 

[IsmaR]

And by 20XX, there will be only Fox, no items and only Omega stages.

No, Omega stages will be banned as well, due to music licensing issues.

 

[A Distant Demon]

No, Omega stages will be banned as well, due to music licensing issues.

IsmaR confirmed to be an EVO TO

 

[N3ON]

SEGA's best bet at this point may be to sell off their big franchises, strip down to a smaller company, and focus on their Japanese niche fan base. Worldwide, large releases, like Sonic, is what's killing the company right now, they lose money every time they release one.

They might've lost money on the Wii U titles, but I think overall Sonic is still profitable for them. If he wasn't they'd ditch him. Typically (ie on a system with a decent install base) he's still moved at least a mil per title.

No, Omega stages will be banned as well, due to music licensing issues.

Except for the Mother ones.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

SEGA's best bet at this point may be to sell off their big franchises, strip down to a smaller company, and focus on their Japanese niche fan base. Worldwide, large releases, like Sonic, is what's killing the company right now, they lose money every time they release one.

Not sure about that. Sonic, even Boom was a complete flop (and rightfully so), is still their most profitable franchise.

 

[Xzsmmc]

Konami's gaming division is pretty much boned as well, with Kojima leaving and all.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Konami's gaming division is pretty much boned as well, with Kojima leaving and all.

They've been doing bad for a while aswell if Jim Sterling is anything to believe

 

[BaganSmashBros]

From a Sakurai point of view, Ryu would be one of the ones low on the list to put in Smash. But from a Capcom point of view, would they really allow any other character that isn't Mega Man to enter Smash before Ryu series-wise? I mean, I could see them allowing another Mega Man character, but with another series, would they let another character from a non-Street Fighter enter Smash before Ryu?

Sakurai refuced to include PAC-MAN in Brawl. So, he still has some control over roster choice. And why would they need another Capcom character anyway?

No, Omega stages will be banned as well, due to music licensing issues.

Aw...
But seriously, why are there any licensing issues with music from a game? Is it because of Sonic music or just 3rd party music?

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Sakurai refuced to include PAC-MAN in Brawl. So, he still has some control over roster choice. And why would they need another Capcom character anyway?

Sakurai didn't refuse of I recall. It was kinda like the Snake in Melee thing, Miyamoto wanted him in but it was too late. He also thought it would be impossible with how iconic he was.

 

[Ivander]

And why would they need another Capcom character anyway?

I thought we were speaking hypothetically? Like that "What-if" scenario? At least, I thought that's what we were doing in the first place?
And last time I checked, Sakurai didn't refuse Pac-Man for Brawl, but at the time, he didn't exactly know what to do for a moveset with Pac-Man. Or as the guy said above, it was probably too late.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Sakurai didn't refuse of I recall. It was kinda like the Snake in Melee thing, Miyamoto wanted him in but it was too late. He also thought it would be impossible with how iconic he was.

I thought we were speaking hypothetically? Like that "What-if" scenario? At least, I thought that's what we were doing in the first place?
And last time I checked, Sakurai didn't refuse Pac-Man for Brawl, but at the time, he didn't exactly know what to do for a moveset with Pac-Man. Or as the guy said above, it was probably too late.

Oh. Ok then.

 

[PushDustIn]

Current response number for the Mega Smash Poll. Only a couple of days left.
English 2700 87.2%
Español 210 6.8%
Français 58 1.9%
日本語 96 3.1%
Português 32 1%
(Total 3,096 responses)

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

Current response number for the Mega Smash Poll. Only a couple of days left.
English 2700 87.2%
Español 210 6.8%
Français 58 1.9%
日本語 96 3.1%
Português 32 1%
(Total 3,096 responses)

It would be nice if you could get quite a bit more japanese players votes. It is probably too hard to though.

Otherwise, wow. You managed to get a lot of responses.

Can't wait to see the final results. ~

 

[SmashChu]

If it ever came to pass that Sega needed to sell itself off, I imagine they would choose Nintendo as their preferable buyer, as Sega IPs (well mostly Sonic - but then again Sega is mostly Sonic ) have done best on Nintendo systems, Wii U notwithstanding. The question would then be if Nintendo would be amenable to purchasing them, something Nintendo rarely does, and has never done with a company the size of Sega.

However Sega is still doing fine in Japan with their arcades and otherwise niche titles, so it's not a situation that would likely present itself unless things got much worse for them.


I don't think so... do you have a source?

Once your at the point of liquidation, you don't care who would be the best fit but who would pay the most money. The bankruptcy courts will try to get the most money to pay off the unsecured creditors (though some will not be paid). If Activision will pay more for the Sonic IP, then they will get it. Given, the company will likely go through a reorganization first, so it may never come to this point.

 

[N3ON]

Once your at the point of liquidation, you don't care who would be the best fit but who would pay the most money. The bankruptcy courts will try to get the most money to pay off the unsecured creditors (though some will not be paid). If Activision will pay more for the Sonic IP, then they will get it. Given, the company will likely go through a reorganization first, so it may never come to this point.

That doesn't mean companies still can't approach others prior to putting themselves on the market to the highest bidder. That's what HAL did. Hudson too.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Takamaru moveset
Jab: Instant multihit jab like MK
Ftilt: A diagonal slash
Utilt: Slashes upwards, kinda like Shulk but more horizontal range instead of vertical
Dtilt: Slashes at feet
Nair: Slashes quickly in front of himself and then behind himself
Fair: A single sword strike by thrusting the blade forward
Bair: Kicks backwards then slashes
Uair: Two rapid sword swings
Dair: Ike's Dair, spikes better
USmash: Swings sword in a 180 degree angle
FSmash: A jump slash
DSmash: Stabs quickly in front of himself and then swings his blade behind him
Pummel: Bashes with Katana hilt
Fthrow: Slashes in rapid succession
Uthrow: A bit like Ryuenjin from Zero in MvC
Bthrow: Jumps in front of foe and slashes
Dthrow: Throws a few fireballs on foe
B: Pinwheel attack, shoots out a projectile not unlike the Metal Blade, faster at the cost of less directions, customs are Shogi pieces, more at a time but weaker
Side B: Shuriken, throws out a shuriken that has little lag, has to take a few seconds to recharge though
Up B: Flies on a hawk like Beat, but faster
Down B: Invisibility Cloak. only Takamaru's shadow is visible, can be used for trickery
Final Smash: Inazuma Lighting, summons a lot of lightning bolts like the final part of Pit's final smash, only Takamaru can still move around and attack freely
Taunt: Holds a battle stance
Taunt: Juggles some Shogi pieces
Taunt: Sword catches lightning while Takamaru poses

 

[A Distant Demon]

Takamaru moveset
Jab: Instant multihit jab like MK
Ftilt: A diagonal slash
Utilt: Slashes upwards, kinda like Shulk but more horizontal range instead of vertical
Dtilt: Slashes at feet
Nair: Slashes quickly in front of himself and then behind himself
Fair: A single sword strike by thrusting the blade forward
Bair: Kicks backwards then slashes
Uair: Two rapid sword swings
Dair: Ike's Dair, spikes better
USmash: Swings sword in a 180 degree angle
FSmash: A jump slash
DSmash: Stabs quickly in front of himself and then swings his blade behind him
Pummel: Bashes with Katana hilt
Fthrow: Slashes in rapid succession
Uthrow: A bit like Ryuenjin from Zero in MvC
Bthrow: Jumps in front of foe and slashes
Dthrow: Throws a few fireballs on foe
B: Pinwheel attack, shoots out a projectile not unlike the Metal Blade, faster at the cost of less directions, customs are Shogi pieces, more at a time but weaker
Side B: Shuriken, throws out a shuriken that has little lag, has to take a few seconds to recharge though
Up B: Flies on a hawk like Beat, but faster
Down B: Invisibility Cloak. only Takamaru's shadow is visible, can be used for trickery
Final Smash: Inazuma Lighting, summons a lot of lightning bolts like the final part of Pit's final smash, only Takamaru can still move around and attack freely
Taunt: Holds a battle stance
Taunt: Juggles some Shogi pieces
Taunt: Sword catches lightning while Takamaru poses

did you mean to post that here ryuga?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

did you mean to post that here ryuga?

Yeah, thought it might aswell fit here, being a character discussion thread

 

[TylerBlackRunIt]

Paper Mario would be a cool character...

 

[Wintropy]

I like the idea that Takamaru switches between projectile weapons with his neutral-b, cycling through them in a manner similar to Shulk. His neutral moves would make use of his katana, throw in some kicks and elbows in there for good measure, Final Smash is either a storm of projectiles or a moonlight cut atop the roof of an ancient castle.

Kinda surprised there's no character in Smash that wields a katana. Considering how ubiquitous they are in vidya, and fighting games in particular, I'd have expected somebody to pop in with one by now.