Character Discussion Thread

[T-Hell]

Could the leak still be part fake since Shulk's render isn't the same?

EDIT: Nevermind, it is the same.

 

[~Krystal~]

Matches with the CSS we saw. They never even attempted to change it, which is good. Shulk's poster is mighty impressive also.

 

[the8thark]

Do we have a page for Shulk now? So we can talk about him?
I mist say that was a character I'd never have thought would have gotten into SSB4. Seems like Nintendo is pushing hard for characters in upcoming games. Makes sense. If you liked the character in SSB4, then you might get the new game with that that character in it. Some pretty sly game advertising happening there. But defo a "Well Played" Nintendo.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Let's get hype for Dark Pit, everyone!

 

[~Krystal~]

Anyone think Dark Pit will get his own trailer?

 

[Oniric Spriter]

"Nothing will be reavealed in tomorrow's 3DS direct"

Yeah, well...

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Anyone think Dark Pit will get his own trailer?

Considering how humble Sakurai is, obviously not!

Spoiler

 

[TitanTeaTime]

Well, Shulk is a thing. My immediate reaction despite being a Xenoblade fan is... actually that they butchered his character a little. Oh well. But hey, they included a counter mechanic! That all the FE characters and Palutena already have. Chain attacks with the other characters are cool? Honestly I almost felt like the best part of the trailer was seeing the Gaur Plains stage (#Banned anyway, it's a walk-off), swimsuit Shulk and the tease for Metal Face. Who quite frankly was one of the things I wanted out of Shulk's inevitable inclusion so that's great.
Sorry to sound like a negative nancy, it's just that I feel like this all could have been done better.

 

[Masonomace]

Damndify, Shulk Time confirmed. But no Reyn time?!

 

[shinhed-echi]

Even though I don't care much for Xenoblade (yet), the trailer was EPIC. And I got to see a bit more of Shulk's personality and moves.

Epic trailer, I guess this is another... POSSITIVE (+2) for the roster!

 

[Masonomace]

Forgot to mention, but Pivot / B-reverse Falcon Punch is confirmed!!!!!!

So is Dark Link's palette swap! Looking good!

 

[Wintropy]

Shulk foresees a Fight!

All is forgiven forever.

That accent, though. My god. I can't stop laughing. It's so cuuuute~

 

[Spinosaurus]

As if we needed any more confirmation that the leak is real. :V

 

[the8thark]

As if we needed any more confirmation that the leak is real. :V

So are you saying Duck Hunt Dog is confirmed too by that?

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Also, inb4complaintsabouttoomanyswordusers.

 

[Spinosaurus]

So are you saying Duck Hunt Dog is confirmed too by that?

As far as I'm concerned? Yes.

 

[Masonomace]

Also, inb4complaintsabouttoomanycounters.

I'd rather complain about that cheezy counter Shulk has. It looks just as easy to use as Marth's counter is. The knock-back scaling seems to be ridiculous too.

EDIT: Taking a second glimpse of his counter in action, you can press it early & it still has invincible frames out for a good moment of time to have a regular counter strike. Timing the attack more perfectly puts out a stronger knock-back counter slash strike. Shulk seems to have the best counter in the game now. Move aside Marth Ike Greninja Palutena & Lucina.

 

[Scamper52596]

I'm definitely excited to see Shulk (officially) announced! The trailer was pretty awesome. He looks quite fun to play as.

 

[the8thark]

Anyone else feel Shulk in SSB4 is partially advertising for Xenoblade Chronicles to come out eventually on WiiU and DS?

 

[Wintropy]

Anyone else feel Shulk in SSB4 is partially advertising for Xenoblade Chronicles to come out eventually on WiiU and DS?

Partially? ;3

If it gets people interested in the game, more power to 'em, is what I say! It's certainly piqued my interests.

 

[Starcutter]

Oh god, the title of the trailer makes me feel guilty about the leak.


"I guess we have to"

 

[FlareHabanero]

"Nothing will be reavealed in tomorrow's 3DS direct"

Yeah, well...

>Nintendo Direct regarding to the 3DS
>All the footage was from the Wii U version

 

[josh bones]

I'd rather complain about that cheezy counter Shulk has. It looks just as easy to use as Marth's counter is. The knock-back scaling seems to be ridiculous too.

EDIT: Taking a second glimpse of his counter in action, you can press it early & it still has invincible frames out for a good moment of time to have a regular counter strike. Timing the attack more perfectly puts out a stronger knock-back counter slash strike. Shulk seems to have the best counter in the game now. Move aside Marth Ike Greninja Palutena & Lucina.

andare insulted by that

 

[Masonomace]

andare insulted by that

I was just looking at some characters on the SmashBros site, & forgot Toad was Peach's returning counter since Melee. Lucario Double Team is the one I should be ashamed of forgetting the most since I main him in Brawl & will main him in Smash 4 & 5. If AuraBoost% works even better than how it did in Brawl, I will take back what I said about Shulk having the most strongest counter move in the game. Because Full AuraBoost% Double Team will hit like an Aura truck.

EDIT: We'll probably need an article about Shulk by Sakurai explaining about Monado's arts.

EDIT2: We both forgot 's Slip Counter move.
And Mii SwordFighter. . .

 

[Spinosaurus]

Someone analyze Metal Face's shadow.

We need to know if he's playable.

 

[Shagadelic_Baby]

Someone analyze Metal Face's shadow.

We need to know if he's playable.

Edit: Ignore.
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[Starcutter]

Someone analyze Metal Face's shadow.

We need to know if he's playable.

Bowser clone, calling it.

 

[Spazzy_D]

Hey, guys.... I'm a huge Shulk fan, but I think we are all over looking the biggest Smash news to come out of that direct.

WE FINALLY HAVE A VERSION OF THE 3DS THAT HAS THE HORSEPOWER TO HANDLE ICE CLIMBERS!

What would you think of DLC for Ice Climbers for Wii U and 3DS that only worked on the new model?

Probably going to end up buying it (I can't see it staying Japan exclusive) for the C-stick in Smash and because, apparently, Xenoblade will be exclusive to it.

 

[the8thark]

Hey, guys.... I'm a huge Shulk fan, but I think we are all over looking the biggest Smash news to come out of that direct.

WE FINALLY HAVE A VERSION OF THE 3DS THAT HAS THE HORSEPOWER TO HANDLE ICE CLIMBERS!

What would you think of DLC for Ice Climbers for Wii U and 3DS that only worked on the new model?

Probably going to end up buying it (I can't see it staying Japan exclusive) for the C-stick in Smash and because, apparently, Xenoblade will be exclusive to it.

Nintendo probably would not want to fragment the DS playerbase so you can't be IC or VS IC if you don't have a new 3DS. That means anyone who plays as IC might have longer wait times to find a match online.

 

[Burruni]

I'm gonna explain out the Monado arts from their main game and their Sm4sh iteration.

Monado Enchant [what SHOULD be the name of what was called "buster"]: Would give the entire party a flat strength boost, enable any kind of weapon to be properly effective against Mechon armour, and gave a purple glow to the Monado's light-blade and a matching Aura to allies, namely at their hands and weapons. From what was shown, I think it may slightly increase Shulk's range.

Monado Speed: Would enhance the party's ability to dodge physical attacks, giving a blue aura around their feet primarily and turning the Monado's light-blade blue as well. Seems to just be a flat increase to movement, akin to the Bunny Hood's speed

Monado Armour [What Shield SHOULD be called, as Shield was a way to reduce a big attack down to 1hp of damage, normally used alongside vision tags]: Would give a percentage reduction of all damage for a set period of time for the party, giving an orange-yellow aura for the full body, once again, Monado's light-blade would change colour while this was active.

Monado Jump: Fabricated for Smash, appears to give a green aura to Shulk's feet and matching colour for the Monado's light-blade while giving him 1.5x to 2x jump height. Instant bunny hood jumps?

Monado Smash: Fabricated for Smash, appears to be a red equivalent to Enchant, but will primarily focus on pure damage and knockback.

Also, Riki assist trophy? A mere role for a Heropon! But Riki being an AT and part of Shulk's Chain Attack final smash officially makes him more important than Chrom.

 

[Masonomace]

Hey, guys.... I'm a huge Shulk fan, but I think we are all over looking the biggest Smash news to come out of that direct.

WE FINALLY HAVE A VERSION OF THE 3DS THAT HAS THE HORSEPOWER TO HANDLE ICE CLIMBERS!

What would you think of DLC for Ice Climbers for Wii U and 3DS that only worked on the new model?

Probably going to end up buying it (I can't see it staying Japan exclusive) for the C-stick in Smash and because, apparently, Xenoblade will be exclusive to it.

I think it'd be great. The 3DS LL's are coming out October, so it's gonna be a little while until then. Yet this may force consumers to buy Nintendo's 3DS LL just to play Ice CLimbers via DLC? Idk about that. . . that's another risky marketing move.

 

[pupNapoleon]

I have said this for a while, but I am convinced Sakurai knew that there would be a leak. It is pretty insane to think he would not plan on a leak, actually.

Well, he changed his entire marketing plan this time, hell, the game, around spoilers this time, with SSE cut scenes completely overthrown for movies to introduce characters being a major ploy.
He has had the market strategy planned out from the beginning here, when it comes to reveals (slated many times to have had them completely decided on from day when).

Call me crazy, but, if he knew the likelihood of a leak, and the above facts being true, he would have had to have accounted for how to plan it in.

That said, he put no time into a Shulk reveal, because we all knew that Shulk would be in, and this (just like the two PotD's we saw earlier this week) were just confirming the leak (until he deviates from it perhaps). It is clear this video was the worst.

 

[Spazzy_D]

I have said this for a while, but I am convinced Sakurai knew that there would be a leak. It is pretty insane to think he would not plan on a leak, actually.

Well, he changed his entire marketing plan this time, hell, the game, around spoilers this time, with SSE cut scenes completely overthrown for movies to introduce characters being a major ploy.
He has had the market strategy planned out from the beginning here, when it comes to reveals (slated many times to have had them completely decided on from day when).

Call me crazy, but, if he knew the likelihood of a leak, and the above facts being true, he would have had to have accounted for how to plan it in.

That said, he put no time into a Shulk reveal, because we all knew that Shulk would be in, and this (just like the two PotD's we saw earlier this week) were just confirming the leak (until he deviates from it perhaps). It is clear this video was the worst.

Even if you don't care for the character, would you really say the trailer is worse then Pacman's or Wii Fit Trainer's?

 

[Starcutter]

It is clear this video was the worst.

Here's where you stop making sense.

Why is it the worst? 'cause Sakurai planned ahead?

 

[shinhed-echi]

Even if you don't care for the character, would you really say the trailer is worse then Pacman's or Wii Fit Trainer's?

Are you serious? Pacman's trailer was hype & feels on a stick with sweet nostalgia sauce. What exactly was bad about it?

 

[pupNapoleon]

Here's where you stop making sense.

Why is it the worst? 'cause Sakurai planned ahead?

I'm not sure what you are saying.

My claim is that he DID plan ahead. He planned on a leak, perhaps even leaked this himself, but absolutely planned on a leak being a huge likelihood in this game, and used it in his marketing strategy for the game. Turning a huge weakness into a huge strength.

How does the Shulk video showcase planning ahead, if not in the form that he planned on a leak?

Even if you don't care for the character, would you really say the trailer is worse then Pacman's or Wii Fit Trainer's?

I do like the character.
From a strictly analytical standpoint, it is the worst: it builds zero hype.

It literally just shoves Shulk in our faces, and then introduces what he can do with gameplay.
There is no buildup, no multiple character reveal, no musical tension.


I WILL clarify that of course, I do not speak Japanese, and that may play a factor, because I may not understand the story. Yet, Shulk barely spoke in the video, so I doubt I missed some extreme amount of story.


As for why it was worse than Wii Fit or Pacman? Are you kidding?
Pacman was a huge fan service- it built up the big four mascots, and literally played on that tension in a brilliant harmony.
Wii Fit billed the tension of expectation by faking us out with expectation.

There is no comparison.
This video literally, unless Im missing some huge component by 2 lines of text, just said, "hey guys here is shulk."

On a strictly marketing and storytelling perspective, this video was an absolute failure. I speak as objectively as this can be done. I'm always happy to get a new character from a new franchise

 

[Spazzy_D]

I do like the character.
From a strictly analytical standpoint, it is the worst: it builds zero hype.

It literally just shoves Shulk in our faces, and then introduces what he can do with gameplay.
There is no buildup, no multiple character reveal, no musical tension.


I WILL clarify that of course, I do not speak Japanese, and that may play a factor, because I may not understand the story. Yet, Shulk barely spoke in the video, so I doubt I missed some extreme amount of story.


As for why it was worse than Wii Fit or Pacman? Are you kidding?
Pacman was a huge fan service- it built up the big four mascots, and literally played on that tension in a brilliant harmony.
Wii Fit billed the tension of expectation by faking us out with expectation.

There is no comparison.
This video literally, unless Im missing some huge component by 2 lines of text, just said, "hey guys here is shulk."

On a strictly marketing and storytelling perspective, this video was an absolute failure. I speak as objectively as this can be done. I'm always happy to get a new character from a new franchise

He say's it's Shulk time! Metal Face has an awesome cameo at the end. He has a vision sequence against Link and Marth that closely mirrors his first vision sequence against the mechons in colony 9!

There was a TON of fan service for fans of the game in there! English Trailer below.

 

[Starcutter]

I'm not sure what you are saying.

My claim is that he DID plan ahead. He planned on a leak, perhaps even leaked this himself, but absolutely planned on a leak being a huge likelihood in this game, and used it in his marketing strategy for the game. Turning a huge weakness into a huge strength.

How does the Shulk video showcase planning ahead, if not in the form that he planned on a leak?


I do like the character.
From a strictly analytical standpoint, it is the worst: it builds zero hype.

It literally just shoves Shulk in our faces, and then introduces what he can do with gameplay.
There is no buildup, no multiple character reveal, no musical tension.


I WILL clarify that of course, I do not speak Japanese, and that may play a factor, because I may not understand the story. Yet, Shulk barely spoke in the video, so I doubt I missed some extreme amount of story.


As for why it was worse than Wii Fit or Pacman? Are you kidding?
Pacman was a huge fan service- it built up the big four mascots, and literally played on that tension in a brilliant harmony.
Wii Fit billed the tension of expectation by faking us out with expectation.

There is no comparison.
This video literally, unless Im missing some huge component by 2 lines of text, just said, "hey guys here is shulk."

On a strictly marketing and storytelling perspective, this video was an absolute failure. I speak as objectively as this can be done. I'm always happy to get a new character from a new franchise

oh, so you only saw the japanese version of the trailer?


also, Little Mac's trailer wasn't much better for what you stated here.

 

[Burruni]

Honestly, there's three factors to a trailer for the "goals".

1) It introduces the people ignorant to the character to what kind of personality they are and such.

2) Introduces enough of gameplay to properly show the style, anything key to their functioning, and enough of the moves to raise speculation.

3) Has enough of the good bits of what is from the main series that the character comes from. In-joke humor.

I don't feel like any character trailer is truly that terrible, as all of them really meet these guidelines.

Later, I'll be the Xenoblade ambassador again and go over all the cute little in-jokes of the trailer, so others can kinda appreciate it more.

 

[Spazzy_D]

The Metal Face bit was fantastic. One of my favorite video game villains of all time, hands down.