Can't Let you cut me Sakurai, Wolf for DLC

[Frostwraith]

Why I think Wolf is likely:
- In Brawl, Wolf was low priority. He likely was this time as well.
- Sakurai stated he wanted to bring all characters back, but they wouldn't have enough time to do so. This could be more evidence that Wolf was, in fact, low priority once again.
- DLC could be primarily for low-priority characters that failed to make the cut during development thanks to time constraints. DLC may also have time constraints but there are no longer any worries on finishing the game and spend time on other things besides characters.
- Fox has a Wolf Flash move with similar proprieties. If this tells me something, is that work was possibly put in Wolf, but had to be scrapped early. Fox was given a remnant of Wolf's moveset.
- They can port data from Brawl, contrary to Mewtwo. This means less work would be put on Wolf.
- Wolf could potentially advertise the upcoming Star Fox game.

He has a lot going for him. If Mewtwo, one of the hardest cuts in Smash history, can return, so can Wolf.

Plus, I liked playing as Wolf in Brawl. I want him back.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Why I think Wolf is likely:
- In Brawl, Wolf was low priority. He likely was this time as well.
- Sakurai stated he wanted to bring all characters back, but they wouldn't have enough time to do so. This could be more evidence that Wolf was, in fact, low priority once again.
- Fox has a Wolf Flash move with similar proprieties. If this tells me something, is that work was possibly put in Wolf, but had to be scrapped early. Fox was given a remnant of Wolf's moveset.
- They can port data from Brawl, contrary to Mewtwo. This means less work would be put on Wolf.
- Wolf could potentially advertise the upcoming Star Fox game.

He has a lot going for him. If Mewtwo, one of the hardest cuts in Smash history, can return, so can Wolf.

Plus, I liked playing as Wolf in Brawl. I want him back.

Agreed.

Fun Fact: I've read off somewhere that Kid Icarus Uprising was originally planned to be a StarFox game. It makes me wonder what Wolf's role in it would've been.

One more thing. This is pretty off topic, but uh, so far it looks like I'm the only one who responded to IsmaR's post about the ownership of this thread. Not saying I'm desperate or anything, I'm just pointing it out.

 

[Frostwraith]

Fun Fact: I've read off somewhere that Kid Icarus Uprising was originally planned to be a StarFox game. It makes me wonder what Wolf's role in it would've been.

Something like this guy?

Both are recurring rival characters that fight under their own agenda, so yeah.

One more thing. This is pretty off topic, but uh, so far it looks like I'm the only one who responded to IsmaR's post about the ownership of this thread. Not saying I'm desperate or anything, I'm just pointing it out.

Yeah, it's off-topic.

Anyway, I don't know if anyone else wants ownership of this thread.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

Why I think Wolf is likely:
- In Brawl, Wolf was low priority. He likely was this time as well.
- Sakurai stated he wanted to bring all characters back, but they wouldn't have enough time to do so. This could be more evidence that Wolf was, in fact, low priority once again.
- DLC could be primarily for low-priority characters that failed to make the cut during development thanks to time constraints. DLC may also have time constraints but there are no longer any worries on finishing the game and spend time on other things besides characters.
- Fox has a Wolf Flash move with similar proprieties. If this tells me something, is that work was possibly put in Wolf, but had to be scrapped early. Fox was given a remnant of Wolf's moveset.
- They can port data from Brawl, contrary to Mewtwo. This means less work would be put on Wolf.
- Wolf could potentially advertise the upcoming Star Fox game.

He has a lot going for him. If Mewtwo, one of the hardest cuts in Smash history, can return, so can Wolf.

Plus, I liked playing as Wolf in Brawl. I want him back.

My babies were Low priority :') &

 

[Critzilean]

I think that leak is fake, no real argument I just never believe leaks. It would be nice if it was real, however, because all of my wanted characters except Impa and Lucas are there.

On the topic of a new thread owner, I wouldn't want to be the new owner, but I feel we need someone to take over.

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

What are the responsibilities of thread owner?
On topic in the Rev3games info dump in Smash world the Wolfen deals 100 damage to an opponent at the star of a match. A Wolfen... (More evidence)

 

[Lilfut]

Dont Wolfens appear on Corneria occasionally?

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Dont Wolfens appear on Corneria occasionally?

I've seen at least one or two

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

Hears the proof.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Hears the proof. https://soundcloud.com/%5Bmedia%3Dyoutube%5Did%3Dld4uQClLd5U%3Bt%3D416 [/media]

It's not working on my end.

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

It's not working on my end.

fixed

Hears the proof.

 

[Critzilean]

I imagine a trailer were Fox is fighting someone and then gets knocked off the stage. As he is about to recover he gets shot by lasers and goes hurtling into the blast zone. The camera then pans to a Wolfen, and after it zooms into the cockpit its shows Wolf and says:

"WOLF CAN'T LET YOU DO THAT"


just ignore the fact that Wolf isn't a newcomer he gets a trailer anyway XP

 

[BravadoMan_13]

In my opinion, I think Wolf will be the next veteran confirmed for DLC. I really want to see him back. What good what it be that Lylat Cruise returns but Wolf doesn't? He'll be back and better than ever.

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

I'm calling it that's fake why? Take a look every chracters render box has something in common it's a face an just glimpse of their body.
Bandana Dee is so close up it's the cameraman hit him in the face
Wolf and Isaac? Are like way to far back from everyone else and overall the render for Wolf looks very brawl like.~
While I want Wolf back I'm calling this fake.
Plus no Lucas.

This is the image people claim the Wolf pic was ripped from

Wolf image also looks like this. The only thing that can save this is if the Wolf pic isn't a Photoshopped preexisting one. There are some other poses that have Wolf looking simular to the artwork and it is possible that his artwork is a copy of one of his poses in brawl. We must wait for more evidence, but I'm just making a point in favor of this being true.

 

[Critzilean]

This is the image people claim the Wolf pic was ripped from

Wolf image also looks like this. The only thing that can save this is if the Wolf pic isn't a Photoshopped preexisting one. There are some other poses that have Wolf looking simular to the artwork and it is possible that his artwork is a copy of one of his poses in brawl. We must wait for more evidence, but I'm just making a point in favor of this being true.

Even if the render is from Brawl, since the leak was claimed to be a demo/beta, it would make sense for there to be placeholder renders on the CSS if this is the case

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

Even if the render is from Brawl, since the leak was claimed to be a demo/beta, it would make sense for there to be placeholder renders on the CSS if this is the case

A great point I believe the original stage selection from the ESRB leak is arranged much differently in the final version. HOPE LIVES ON WOLF FOR DLC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Lilfut]

A great point I believe the original stage selection from the ESRB leak is arranged much differently in the final version. HOPE LIVES ON WOLF FOR DLC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is not, but that's not particularly relevant for this leak's validity.

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

I honestly thought that the art could be of his taunt where he growls. The beta footage would explain the character mugshots, and if it truly is a demo, make it easier to see the characters that need testing.
For reference

 

[Wyoming]

Who wants old Connery to take over the thread? Nobody? I'll see myself out.

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

Who wants a me to take over the thread?

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

I'm up for taking over this thread too, but guys, this is getting a bit off topic.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

Having Wolf back would be wonderful. He is like Lucas in the fact that his moveset differs in gameplay and style, hardly recognizable with the original counter part.

Wolf joining Mewtwo in a villain DLC pack would be nice.

 

[mark welford]

I'm calling it that's fake why? Take a look every chracters render box has something in common it's a face an just glimpse of their body.
Bandana Dee is so close up it's the cameraman hit him in the face
Wolf and Isaac? Are like way to far back from everyone else and overall the render for Wolf looks very brawl like.~
While I want Wolf back I'm calling this fake.
Plus no Lucas.

you don't have to be so agressive about it man geez take it however you want all i said is let hope it is real.

 

[StormC]

Wolf as DLC for Super Smash Bros. For Nintendo 3DS And Wii U is something I definitely support.

He and Snake are the only cut Brawl veterans that I'm really aching to see back (and let's be real, Squirtle and Ivysaur are highly impractical at this point), and it's my hope that with Fox's customs imitating Wolf's moves, if he were to come back, his moves could be tweaked even further to differentiate himself from Fox and Falco.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

Wolf as DLC for Super Smash Bros. For Nintendo 3DS And Wii U is something I definitely support.

He and Snake are the only cut Brawl veterans that I'm really aching to see back (and let's be real, Squirtle and Ivysaur are highly impractical at this point), and it's my hope that with Fox's customs imitating Wolf's moves, if he were to come back, his moves could be tweaked even further to differentiate himself from Fox and Falco.

No love for Lucas :'(
But yeah Wolf and Lucas at this point are pretty much a given

 

[StormC]

Eh, Lucas just doesn't really excite me as a character. I loved MOTHER 3, but he was the least interesting thing about it.

 

[0ShadowStories]

Now that we have DLC possiblities, Wolf is my #1 vet to come back. I always played him in brawl so he was my main.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

Right now I have ditched the 3ds version...... (that circle pad just isn't doing it for me) What I m doing other wise ?
Playing as these 3 in Brawl :')
It's much better than the 3ds....... (What have I got myself into b saying that X3)

 

[SmashChu]

Who wants a me to take over the thread?

I'd be fine with it

 

[cmbsfm]

Who wants a me to take over the thread?

Well, you talk about wolf a lot, I'm sure you could make a good op about wolf. You've got the dedication.

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

Well, you talk about wolf a lot, I'm sure you could make a good op about wolf. You've got the dedication.

Thanks

 

[Grovbi]

While I'm not a huge fan of Wolf, he was my preferred out of the Star Fox fighters in Brawl. I'd happily welcome him back if he were to return.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Thanks

I guess it's decided. Someone should call the moderators, we got ourselves a winner!

 

[[Obnoxshush/Dasshizer]]

I honestly thought that the art could be of his taunt where he growls. The beta footage would explain the character mugshots, and if it truly is a demo, make it easier to see the characters that need testing.
For reference

OK so there is two cases either the leaker faked the image and simply took a picture of it on his 3DS or its legit. He might do something Saturday, but even if this is fake, there's apparently another rumor going around that says Wolf and some other characters are playable.

 

[LunarWingCloud]

We need more villains/rivals in the Smash series, and Wolf was pretty cool. Wouldn't mind seeing him back.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

OK so there is two cases either the leaker faked the image and simply took a picture of it on his 3DS or its legit. He might do something Saturday, but even if this is fake, there's apparently another rumour going around that says Wolf and some other characters are playable.

As long as it has & that's fine by me :')

 

[the101]

Hello, everyone. I'm a fellow Super Smash Bros. and Star Fox fan. I thought I'd drop into Wolf's character thread to briefly touch upon my thoughts concerning him.

When the new Smash Bros. went into development. I suspected early on that we'd have only two Star Fox representatives. The series has been dormant for quite a few years. While Star Fox 64 3D was great it wasn't a true new title, so I expected Fox and Falco to return. While Wolf is not even considered a semi-clone of Fox, Falco has seniority over him. It's disappointing to see my concerns were true.

However, I made several observations in the 3DS version of Smash that lead me to believe Wolf may have been planned for development at some point, but was considered low-priority and thusly wasn't finished in time. I can't go into specifics right now - I must go to work - but I will say that I believe Wolf is very viable for DLC right now; perhaps more so than Lucas or the Ice Climbers.

I will be back later today to elaborate. Stay tuned.

 

[Geoffrey Druyts]

This gave me hope:

Wolf did not return as a playable character in Super Smash Bros. 4, though he does appear as a trophy in at least Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS. Music associated with the character ("Star Wolf's Theme/Sector Z") is also present in the game, and Fox also has Wolf's Wolf Flash from Brawl as a custom side special. Interestingly, Wolf's voice actor, Jay Ward, is credited in the game, despite Wolf himself not having any spoken lines. Lylat Cruise returns in the Wii U version. Wolf presumably appears in the Star Fox Smash Taunt.

Source: http://www.ssbwiki.com/Wolf_O'Donnell#In_Super_Smash_Bros._4

Edit: Didn't know you guys already knew this...
Oh well.

 

[0ShadowStories]

DLC Villains Pack with Hades, K Rool and of course Wolf.

 

[Critzilean]

Assuming Wolf keeps the Brawl moveset, what do you guys think his custom moves will be? My ideas are:

B: A variant that focuses more on the melee hit (no laser, but it is faster and has more damage/knockback) and one that focuses on the laser (no melee hitbox, but the laser has more range and is faster)

Side B: One that goes straight forward and one that removes hitbox but increases range/speed

I can't think of any for Up/Down B (Wouldn't be surprised if they just gave him Fox's reflector customs though)