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Where are you guys watchin' it?M2K's cloud is basic af.
http://twitchster.tv/acfe1/Where are you guys watchin' it?
I saw it and it's just... OK. Like GHNeko said, his Cloud is kinda basic from what I've seen. He really loves camping with Limit Charge and goes in when he wants to.Has anyone seen M2K's
I don't know if anyone else has been watching the genesis stream today but Cloud has done great today.
Not too good...How is Cloud repping at Genesis?
Really? I'm actually pretty surprised, I see a lot of Cloud on FG. Thats interesting, That bums me out because Cloud is one of my new mains (Cloud and Sonic woot!) and I hoped to see how more pro players plays as him, he's still relatively new so maybe that's why/Not too good...
Could be better.
The Japanese Clouds are still doing pretty well if I'm correct. Rain is in loser's top 32 and Komorikiri is still in I think, although both are not solo Cloud mains. And this is nothing to say of doubles, where Cloud is putting in mad work, with one sitting in WF currently and the double Cloud team sitting in Loser's Quarters.Not too good...
Could be better.
Speaking of Finishing Touch, I got a finishing touch windbox kill earlier today.finishing touch team combos op
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I cant watch it D: can you tell me wat happened?finishing touch team combos op
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basically 2 japanese players are camping limit break in doubles and when they get the chance they grab an opponent and throw them into the other cloud and that cloud uses finishing touch to kill the opponent at fairly low percents.I cant watch it D: can you tell me wat happened?
Yeah, he does seem to camp limit charging. I still like how M2K plays him lol. I honestly didn't think M2K played Smash 4 alot lol.I saw it and it's just... OK. Like GHNeko said, his Cloud is kinda basic from what I've seen. He really loves camping with Limit Charge and goes in when he wants to.
and is a really REALLY Great team. Cloud did really well.Komorikiri & Ranai are rocking the Cloud and Villager. Any Cloud on a team is a dangerous one.
Best Zoner for free Limit Breaks.and is a really REALLY Great team. Cloud did really well.
This.M2K's cloud is basic af.
perty muchYeah when you have dank af normals, then your performance looks good if you're good at a game lol.
Yep totally agree with you. I'm greedy and hoping for even better results but it's great that there is Cloud rep in top 32.Guys um.... Komorikiri broke top 32 playing mostly Cloud... in a tournament that has over 1000 entrants. For being a character that is barely a month old, that's fantastic. His tournament results have come in alot quicker than any of the other DLC characters by a long shot (Cloud is inherently easier to play than Ryu, but still). People are saying that Cloud can't be that good because of his recovery (and how exploitable it is vs. Shiek), but a month in, and our boy already doing work. Add to the fact that no American player (aside M2K I guess) has really invested into the character yet. I'm pleased with his results in G3 (Cloud I mean).
This is the TLDR of my earlier post haha.Cloud did amazing.
You also have M2K, but he is sort of Sonicfying the way Cloud is being perceived (Cloud shouldn't necessarily play quite as defensively as M2K does it). When LB cancelling, d throw follow ups (yes, there are some things you can do with it) and kill set ups get more refined, I would be surprised if Cloud isn't regarded a top 10 character, particularly if we can nail down the Shiek MU.Yep totally agree with you. I'm greedy and hoping for even better results but it's great that there is Cloud rep in top 32.
It's great that one of Japan's top players is picking him up as a main. Will definitely help move his metagame along a lot faster. It's a pity that there aren't any top players in the America trying to put in work with him other than maybe Tweek (he's really good but don't really consider him a top player).
Well yeah but I feel M2K doesn't join much tourneys for Smash 4 to be considered a top player for Smash 4. He has amazing fundamentals though. He'd definitely do great if he puts in more time in Smash 4.This is the TLDR of my earlier post haha.
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You also have M2K, but he is sort of Sonicfying the way Cloud is being perceived (Cloud shouldn't necessarily play quite as defensively as M2K does it). When LB cancelling, d throw follow ups (yes, there are some things you can do with it) and kill set ups get more refined, I would be surprised if Cloud isn't regarded a top 10 character, particularly if we can nail down the Shiek MU.
Guys um.... Komorikiri broke top 32 playing mostly Cloud... in a tournament that has over 1000 entrants. For being a character that is barely a month old, that's fantastic. His tournament results have come in alot quicker than any of the other DLC characters by a long shot (Cloud is inherently easier to play than Ryu, but still). People are saying that Cloud can't be that good because of his recovery (and how exploitable it is vs. Shiek), but a month in, and our boy already doing work. Add to the fact that no American player (aside M2K I guess) has really invested into the character yet. I'm pleased with his results in G3 (Cloud I mean).
But this is the thing with Smash 4 in general. Fundamentals still reign supreme above all else in this game, particularly if you're using a character with the frame data and tools to succeed (Cloud imo is definitely one of those characters). The fact that M2K's 'basic' Cloud was able to make it to top 64 of one of the largest and probably the most stacked Smash 4 tournaments to date is a testament to this imo. There were probably Clouds more aware of or proficient with his more niche tech and setups that drowned in pools simply because they lacked the fundamental skills in areas like spacing, timing and situational awareness to go the extra mile in this game.This.
I've been saying this since I saw m2k's cloud videos, but everybodys like "he's so good with cloud omg"
He doesnt hardly take advantage of Cloud's tools. His cloud looks like my day 5 Cloud, honestly. His performance with the character is entirely due to his inherent skill at Smash.
Hopefully in a few months people utilize him to his full potential and we get some neat stuff.Yeah, and there's really no harm in having a basic Cloud. He was only released a month ago and it'll take some time for players like M2K to even know how to utilize him well.
I feel kinda the same way, but I do feel some sentimental value towards Shulk. I might have grown up with Cloud and play him much more often, but I do love Shulk's MArts, MALLC, and his game.So I just played a couple games as Shulk.
Then I went back to Cloud. Jesus Christ, you feel so FREE! So fast! Better aerials! Such airspeed! Fast killmoves! LMAO
Also this was my first time playing as FFVII Cloud. The sword looks so different in his attacks...