MWW HYPE! Circuit CHAMPIONSHIP IN KANSAS THIS SATURDAY JUNE 29TH $156 BRAWL POT BONUS

[MegaRobMan]

DeLux, Bpow, Teh Future , Mr. Doom, MegaRobMan and Cloudchaser071 present to you a new KS/IA/MO/NE/CO circuit.

The Midwest HYPE! Circuit

DeLux (KS Ice Climbers main who pretends to play ZSS) has hosted 20+ tournaments

Including
Battle to end hunger 5/7/11 32 entrants
Midwest Netwarz 8/13/11 22 entrants
Battle to end hunger 2 9/4/11 19 entrants
Get HYPE! 3/10/12 19 entrants
Get HYPE! 2 9/30/12 40 entrants
And three series of locals-
L-Town Throw Down
City of Smashville
L-town Throw Down R

Bpow ( IA Doubles Main) has never TO'd before but

Future ( MO Ice Climbers Main who pretends to main every character in the game) has hosted 7 events

Cool Cats #130 entrants 4/24/10
Cool Cats #2 25 entrants 7/31/10
Dope 1 14 entrants 2/27/11
Dope 2 11 entrants 2/26/12
Dope 3 12 entrants 5/03/12
Dope 4 18 entrants 6/02/12
Dope 5 13 entrants 7/17/12

(what happened to dope 6?)

And just completed Dope 7.

MegaRobMan (NE Top 6 Wolf) has hosted 11 events

BBQ 6/13/11 13 entrants
UNO 16 entrants 10/29/11
Aggro 14 entrants* 11/19/11
Repay 9 entrants 2/20/12
SMYMP 7 entrants 2/26/12
100 10 entrants 3/31/12
Final Bout 9 entrants 4/29/12
Nims 11 entrants 6/31/12
Pet Shop 10 entrants 8/05/12
Screw Job Bi-Weekly 5 entrants 12/09/12
Hippie Jambaroo 9 entrants 2/9/13

Cloudchaser071 (CO Melee Fox main) has hosted over 20 events

Including
Fighter Frenzy 29 entrants 1/25/10
King of Springs 24 entrants 5/22/10
Cutthroat 18 entrants 6/6/10
Zournament 13 entrants 7/26/10
Z2 22 entrants MegaRobMan's birthday 2011
No Excuses (a results post) 4/21/12
Summit 4 (results post) 5/26/12
Z3 32 entrants 7/28/12

And Adding Mr. Doom, who I assure you has done events before.

Tentative Schedule

February 16th - Dope 7 ran by Teh Future in Saint Louis, MO
March 3rd - Get HYPE! 2.5 ran by DeLux in Topeka, KS
March 30th-IDSPISPOPD ran by Mr. Doom in Wichita, KS
April 20th- Return of Nebraska's Donation to MJG ran by MegaRobMan in Omaha, NE
May-DM/IA event ran by Bpow
June-Denver/CO event ran by Cloudchaser071
Championship Event - Get HYPE! 3 in Lawrence/Topeka KS ran by DeLux

Rules:

Homefield Advantage Style Rules

Basically everyone runs their own rules set at each place, but it won't be night and day different.

Circuit pot cut and pricing:

Singles is $9
Doubles is $16 (team)
Circuit is $3 as part of the Venue Fee
So $20 with no venue

The pot will be split 50/50

50% of it will be for the circuit winners.

~66% to Singles, ~34% to Double (May change if we average more teams entries)

(TBA on how the payouts for the championship event pot bonus will work)

Singles Circuit Payouts
~#1-40%
~#2-25%
~#3-15%
~#4-10%
~#5-6%
~#6-3%
~#7-1%

Doubles does not enforce static partners, and does not reward 1st vs 2nd. The top two scoring individuals will be bracketed off and split their bracket % of money earned. Odd % of ties will be broken by if you teamed with someone in the same bracket as you will win out (so if you teamed with someone one time and someone two times the two times would win out). If there is no winner, then half of the next bracket % will be split between the odd % of people.

In the event of an odd# tie for the last possible placing payout and there are no like teams or tied number of static points, a random three for all, timeless battle on Summit will determine who gets paid out. In the event of 5 people tying, there will be 5 FFA's with the same rule (except 8 minute timer and sudden death is played out), one person sitting out each time. If there is more than 5 people tying I'm just going to go out and buy pizza with the $ with my fellow TO's.

~#1/#2 ~Split 36%
~#3/#4 ~Split 26%
~#5/#6 ~ Split 18%
~#7/#8 ~ Split 14%
~#9/#10 ~ Split 6%

MUST BE PRESENT FOR

A. The championship event and minimum of 1 circuit events in two states.
or
B. Have attended all events but the championship (with reasonable exceptions).

To get circuit payout $.

50% of it will be a bonus pot for the championship event GET HYPE! 3

 

[MegaRobMan]

Circuit Point System

1-50

2-40

3-30

4-20

5-15

7-10

9-6

13-3

17-1

Championship Point System TBA

Note: Melee/Project M/Mega Man and all other side events do not receive $ from the circuit pot and I will be archiving them JUST FOR FUN

Brawl Singles

#1 MJG 245 Points

#2 DeLux 165 Points

#3 Domo 85 Points

#4 Mr. Doom 75 Points

#5 Teh Future 46 Points

#6 Bpow 41 Points

#7 MegaRobMan 36 Points

#8 Denti 30 Points
#8 Fishbait 30 Points

#10 Fragger-27

#11 Clel-25 Points
#11 Bonds 25 Points

#13 JJ ROCKETS 20 Points
#13 Rubio 20 Points

#15 EggMan 16 Points
#15 Zeton-16 Points

#16 Fino-15 Points
#16 Dave! 15 Points

#18 Vernon 10 Points
#18 Stealth Raptor 10 Points
#18 JMan 10 Points
#18 Sm3esh 10 Points
#18 Detta 10 Points
#18 l 10 Points

#23 Rocha 7 Points

#24 Gimb-6
#24 MetalMusicMan 6 Points
#24 Michael 6 Points
#24 Affinity 6 points
#24 Scrub 6 points
#24 Ratman 6 points
#24 Twin 6 points
#24 Fujin 6 Points
#24 Cue 6 Points
#24 Selodin 6 Points
#24 SunnySunny 6 Points
#24 Orbit 6 Points
#24 Meno 6 Points

#37 Cook 3 Points
#37 Lester 3 Points
#37 Justin 3 Points
#37 Nick Kadonsky 3 Points
#37 Ethan-3 Points
#37 Rev-3 Points
#37 Carlos 3 Points
#37 Josh 3 Points
#37 Jacob 3 Points
#37 Corey 3 Points
#37 Lil Kwanza 3 Points
#37 Legend 3 Points
#37 Skull Kid 3 Points
#37 Rush 3 Points
#37 Lalo 3 Points
#37 Cooper 3 Points

Less than 3 Points
Steve M 1 Point
FAE 1 Point
Tim Jones 1 Point
Nick Kerns 1 Point
R.G M.WPS4 1 Point
T22 1 Point
Justin S 1 Point
Harvey 1 Point
Jason 1 Point
Zack 1 Point
Riley 1 Point
Andrew 1 Point
Eric 1 Point
MooMoo 1 point
G 1 point
/// 1 point
Goose 1 point


Brawl Doubles

#1 MJG 125 Points

#2 DeLux 95 Points

#3 Bpow 75 Points

#4 Mr. Doom 42.5 Points
#4 Domo 42.5 Points

#6 Future 27.5 Points

#7 Fino 25 Points*

#8 Zeton-22.5 Points
#8 Clel-22.5 Points
#8 MegaRobMan 22.5 Points
#8 Rocha 22.5 Points

#12 FAE 20 Points
#12 Denti 20 Points
#12 Fishbait 20 Points
#12 Meno 20 Points

#16 Stealth Points
#16 Scrub 15 Points
#16 TWin 15 points
#16 Fujin 15 Points

#17 JJROCKETS 10 Points
#17 Legan 10 Points
#17 Fragger-10 Points
#17 Zhao
#17 Ratman
#17 Cue 10 Points
#17 Sm3esh 10 Points

#24 Cook 7.5 Points
#24 Egman-7.5 Points
#24 Gimb-7.5 Points
#24 Jman 7.5 Points
#24 Selodin 7.5 Points

#29 Bonds-5 Points
#29 Caitlin-5 Points
#29 Tyler 5 Points
#29 Brandon 5 Points
#29: Lutz 5 Points
#29 MetalMusicMan 5 Points
#29 Carlos 5 Points
#29 Aaron 5 Points
#29 Kobo 5 Points
#29 Legend 5 Points

#39 R.G M.WPS4 3 Points
#39 (RGMWPS4's partner 3 Points

*Fino did not meet all qualifications to get circuit $.

Brawl Mid/Low Tier tournaments (No Circuit $)

#1 MegaRobMan 50 Points

#2 MJG 40 Points

#3 Bpow 30 Points

#4 Teh Future 20 Points

#5 Fujin 15 Points
#5 TWin 15 Points

#7 Lil Kwanza 10 Points
#7 Sm3esh 10 Points

#9 YDJ 7.5 Points
#9 Eat 7.5 Points

Project M (No Circuit $)

#1 Geno 50 Points

#2 MegaRobMan 40 Points

#3 Ben 30 Points

#4 Sam 20 Points

#5 JJ ROCKETS 15 Points
#5 Cook 15 Points

#7: Mapio 10 Points
#7: Kyron 10 Points

#9: Josh L 6 Points
#9: Radium88 6 Points
#9: FAE 6 Points
#9: Rodaph 6 Points

#13: Templar 3 Points
#13: Killshot 3 Points
#13: Eggman 3 Points
#13: Tizamarou 3 Points

Melee (No Circuit $)

#1-Jace-95 Points

#2-MegaRobMan-65 Points

#3-JBM-40 Points

#4-Sm3esh 30 Points

#5 Cue 15 Points
#5 ResTy 15 Points

#7 RfRizzle-10 Points
#7 Selodin-10 Points

#9 Kobo 6 Points
#9 Majik 6 Points
#9 SSJ4 6 Points
#9 Jman 6 Points

#13 Legend 3 Points
#13 Bpow 3 Points

Melee Doubles (no circuit $)

#1-MegaRobMan 25 Points
#1 Sm3esh 25 Points

#3-Cue 20 Points
#3-JBM 20 Points

#5-Jace 15 Points
#5-RfRizzle 15 Points

#7-Jman 10 Points
#7-Selodin 10 Points

#9 Majik-7.5 Points
#9 Bpow 7.5 Points
#9 Kobo 7.5 Points
#9 Legend 7.5 Points

Ride Bails

#1-MRM 50 Points

 

[DeLux]

HYPE! for this

Just to note, I plan to do my first leg for the circuit in Topeka and the championship in either Lawrence or Topeka depending on some negotiations

 

[Cook]

I remember when there were real MW-W and MW-E circuits...

The glory days.

 

[MetalMusicMan]

Huzzah!!!!

 

[JJROCKETS]

:o This sounds pretty legit, hype!

 

[FightAdamantEevee]

yessssssss

 

[BPx]

lol rob i didn't commit. i'll see what i can do though

 

[Tony22]

We need a revival lol

 

[Fragger]

Lets goooo, hype

 

[JB IV]

Hopefully I will be able to attend.

 

[Zeton]

Yes!!!! Hyyyyype!!!

 

[Cook]

^You gotta rally the old Wichita crew!

 

[MegaRobMan]

I agree 100%

 

[DeLux]

I'm going to lay it out there with my goals for participating in the circuit.

I'd like to make Get HYPE! 3 break 64 brawl entrants. We haven't had a tournament in the MWW break 50 entrants for almost a year and a half. I feel like if we can establish our own marquee tournament series, it'll set us up nicely logistically for future tournaments and games (project M / Smash 4 / PSABR come to mind)

That being said, I have tentative plans to do the following with the circuit:

- Rather than doing a pot cut for the circuit, we're going to take a circuit cut from the venue fees. This is to prevent the issue we've had with the previous circuit where it collapsed and the last person in charge took a long to pay out to the winners. That way in the event things go south, worrying about pay outs becomes a lot less complicated

- Ideally I'd like to have 20+ entrants at each leg of the circuit. This is a pretty feasible goal in my opinion because based on the numbers, each scene has around 8 players locally. If each state group is diligent about bringing a car of 4 to each tournament, that's 3 cars of 4 people for 12 entrants along with the 8 for each local scene. As consistent numbers grow, we could see entries in excess of 32 if that's possible, but I'll try to be realistic

- As far as fees go, I'd like to do whatever the TO needs to pay off their venue along with a $3 circuit fee. Assuming 20 entrants at each event, we would raise approximately $60 for the circuit at each event. In order to help curtail costs to everyone, I'm interested in seeing if people would like to lower entry from the standard $10's to a reduced $9 to bridge the gap on the cost. At $9, 3rd place would still be able to get their money back based on my calculations assuming 60/30/10 at 20 entrants.

- From the circuit pot, we'll use that to pot bonus the championship event. Assuming we collect enough, that would be approximately $240 of circuit pot to use for the championship event. If I can get Melee or Project M on the side for the tournament, I'd probably be able to chip in money of my own, but we'd be able to split up $160 of the circuit to singles and $80 of it to doubles at the championship event. I feel like with that kind of incentive I'd be able to attract attendance from out of region including Texas, CO, and maybe ATL South

- Attendance and placing in the circuit will earn people seeding points which will be used when creating the bracket for the Championship. I envision a scenario where the circuit point leaders are given top seeds into bracket and won't have to play out pools.

- I'm currently monitoring other large scale tournaments as to when we'll do our championship event. Barring Genesis conflicting, I think we'll be doing the championship the 3rd weekend of June. Also, I intend to do the KS leg of the circuit the 1st weekend of March, most likely a Sunday if people are able, however I could probably do it on a Saturday if it's totally out of the question for players.

 

[MegaRobMan]

I like all of this.

Singles is $9
Doubles is $16 (team)
Circuit is $3
So $20 with no venue.

I am personally going to run melee singles/doubles at $5 and $10 (team).

BUT, I'll PROBABLY (not 100% yet) waive the venue fee for people who enters both games events.

 

[MJG]

Revival of the MWW?



leggooooo

 

[JMan8891]

Going to try to gather a dakota crew rallied for some of these

 

[MegaRobMan]

lol it would be nice to actually play winna or gerrmmmy before I PR'd them

 

[Cook]

I dunno that I agree with these ideas...

I think the winners of the circuit money should be the people who have the most points at the end, not just whoever wins the championship. Otherwise people from outside the region will just swoop in during the championship and take all the money we've been putting in (unless MJG wins, which is certainly possible). Imo, the purpose of circuit points is to get people to travel to all the tournaments, but if the winners of the championship get all the money, where's the incentive? Automatic high seed is nothing, anyone in the region good enough to potentially place at the top of the circuit is def gonna get a top seed in pools anyway, and I don't see how not having to do pools is an incentive - people go to tourneys because they want to play teh Smash Bros. Idk, in the past people from outside the region have usually won circuit money by going to two events because the amount of points for first place has always been enormous. I would prefer a more balanced point system.

Also don't see much point in knocking $1 off the entry - it's just a buck. Giving change will be kind of annoying although I guess it's easy enough to prepare. I care less about this issue, though.

Sorry to be contrary, but that's my $0.02.

 

[DeLux]

That's exactly the point though, to attract attention from outside the region though

Having shared this plan with some people, I already have a lot of out of region interest being generated, especially for the larger scale championship event.

I also disagree with the notion of the top rankers wanting to do pools. Personal conversations with top players that I've talked to usually indicate that they'd rather not have to go through the strain of pools so they are fresh in bracket and would also rather spend pools time doing friendly play anyways.


And don't be sorry Cook, your opinion is valued!

 

[Cook]

But top players won't be the ones getting the points, it'll be players from our area who go to most events. I guess I don't really see the point in paying extra to have people come **** me.

I'm all about the will of the people, though. Do you have authority to make polls?

 

[Rayku]

Sounds like a pretty cool thing, minus the lack of Melee.

 

[DeLux]

Technically speaking Cook based on the economics you aren't going to pay extra. Standard tournament fees are generally in the $25 area. Rob and I discussed how to achieve that

But really, this is the only way to get a large scale event. Like that's the entire point of the circuit >_>
We've had numerous tournaments follow this model to great success already. Plus doing it this way allows for a couple more expansion options I have planned

So far the last time we did the circuit without a championship as the goal it failed

 

[Cook]

I guess it depends on whether the goal is to get oor interest or to energize the MWW community. If the former is the goal then your idea id def better. My goal would be the latter but that's just me. Like I said, I think a vote would be good (after all the players in the area are familiar with the issues).

 

[DeLux]

Trying to figure out how to make a poll for this >_>


In the meantime, why don't people post if they are interested in:

A. Circuit where points earn seeding leading to a Large Scale Championship Event to attract out of region with the Circuit Pot
or
B. A Circuit Series where points earn direct pay out for results over multiple events using the Circuit Pot
or
C. A combination of both

 

[Stealth Raptor]

i say A

 

[_Kain_]

A

10A's

 

[CloudChaser071]

A's

Also CO is definitely interested in getting involved with this :D

 

[DeLux]

I also vote A but would settle with C if it makes people happy

I just want to make something big happen you know? And we tried B before and it fell apart

 

[Cook]

Out of region votes shouldn't count!

I vote B.

I think there is a way to make a poll if you created the thread.

 

[MJG]

I vote A.

Yup.

 

[Cook]

Ya know, I'm the only one voting my way. If no one else says anything in the next couple days you might as well ignore me. Maybe I'll try to get better (impossible)!

Wait... is MK illegal at KS events?

 

[DeLux]

I'm going to ask my scene what they would support as far as the March event goes since we're doing house rules sort of thing

As for the championship event, I'll take input from all the circuit TO's, but I'm leaning towards a new rulesset that I've been developing that's a compromise for all the rulessets that we tend to use in our region. I can't say for certain what it will be until the house rules for each local area are announced though.

If I had to guess off the top of my head, I'd bet the KS leg of the circuit and the championship will be MK legal. But sometimes my scene surprises me and makes rational decisions, so I haven't given up hope on KC rising to the occasion and making it MK banned for the KS leg lol

 

[MegaRobMan]

I was under the impression that

#1-The $3 dollar circuit fee was going towards the championship event.

Meaning that the pot at each event won't be tainted with pot cuts, so there is an incentive for everyone to go to every tournament AND for people who are only going to be able to come to one event to make it worth their while because the direct money isn't going to get cut.

#2-That people would receive points based on where they finish at each tournament and that these points would be totaled and you would be ranked.

Cook, if you attend every single tournament and do well, you will get a lot of points and will likely not be taken down the rankings by someone placing top 3 at the championship event.

I'm not sure what the concern was with people able to come into it and take over the circuit.

Edit: Granted the championship event will be weighted harder but that's expected.

And I also mentioned that if I was given a bye that I would consider waiving it to get matches in. But I'd like.......want to have the bye but still play pools matches or something illegal like that.

Edit 2: Oh, people care about money.

Right.

Okay, so I am in favor of having the circuit winners getting $ but having a pot bonus overhead of the championship event

tbh there is no point in the circuit if we don't give $ out to the winners of the points.

Basically option C is what Lux and I had discussed

So the championship event would give out $ to the winners of the circuit in points (-what, 5th?), and also a bonus to the winners of the championship event it'self

 

[Cook]

^Was going to comment on your post, but you figured it out halfway through. There ISN'T much point in having circuit points if they don't get you circuit money, imo. And I def do think out of region votes do not count, because obvs A is best for them.

 

[DeLux]

As long as we can push a large scale championship event (which a significant chunk of the circuit pot going towards that can help accomplish) I'm fine with it.
Either way, the people I've spoken to are chomping at the bit for the large scale event portion of everything. But if people want to divert the circuit pot to pay out to the points as well, that should be fine.

Speaking of which, we've more or less confirmed a Colorado leg of the Circuit for the weekend of June 1. I have to hammer down details with Dan (CO's TO) but they seemed pretty excited. I'm pretty excited too since their locals pretty much have been out attended by ours for the last year or so.

I'd also be interested in adding a Chicago or IL leg to the events since they are also part of what's considered MWW, but we need to work out scheduling for that

 

[SoulPech]

 

[Cook]

Yeah, and maybe WI or MN? I kind of doubt we can get enough MO players to travel as far as CO, but maybe!

 

[MJG]

MK shouldn't be banned anywhere (this coming from someone who mains a character that gets absolutely destroyed by MK). That's really all I have to say. I support voting for ruleset A. I don't support MK being banned at all. I've never agreed with it.