Gidy
Smash Lord
Thoughts?
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Zero Suit Samus' 0-Death combo from Brawl works on Robin
- Thread starter Gidy
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Thoughts?
Frozn~
Smash Apprentice
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I think it hurts Robin's matchup with ZSS a bit, but nowhere near enough to be considered ban-material. Every character has terrible matchups. Plus if the attempt whiffs, Robin can easily punish, since he/she's more or less a zoning character, anyway.
Warlock*G
Banned via Warnings
Does that combo work on anybody else?
Gidy
Smash Lord
Not that I know of.
Shuckle89
Smash Apprentice
well, I think it's patched, now. I've heard something about it and I can't pull it off. Although maybe I'm doing it wrong.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
It is not patched, just not easy.
There's a slightly easier way to time the second d-smash. Once Robin gets locked you can shoot another paralyzer and then immediately d-smash. The paralyzer doesn't hit, but it makes it so the d-smash activates as they're standing up making it impossible to miss.
There's a slightly easier way to time the second d-smash. Once Robin gets locked you can shoot another paralyzer and then immediately d-smash. The paralyzer doesn't hit, but it makes it so the d-smash activates as they're standing up making it impossible to miss.
Shuckle89
Smash Apprentice
Well, then I must be doing something wrong. I've downloaded a patch (no idea what it did) but whenever I perform this, I jump into the air with B just like when you try it on other chars. The footstool after the stun works just fine but after, I just make a full jump. I can't seem to cancel it, even though I'm using 25% speed. I doubt it's possible to do B much faster.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
What move are you starting it with?
Be aware that d-smash has two hitboxes, and the further one will never allow this to work.
Try starting it with a fully charged paralyzer, that gives you the most time to get the footstool.
Be aware that d-smash has two hitboxes, and the further one will never allow this to work.
Try starting it with a fully charged paralyzer, that gives you the most time to get the footstool.
Shuckle89
Smash Apprentice
well, like I said, the footstool is not the problem. But after the footstool, whenever I press B, I just make a full jump and then the shooting action is being performed.
You know? When you do it on other characters. I simply jump up into the air. I don't 'cancel' the footstool when I'm doing it on robin.
edit: yup, I'm just jumping into the air like what would happen when you perform it on another character. I looked it up and I've already seen several guys saying it was patched.
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NickRiddle
: have you already downloaded the patch? v1. something. If you did, can you still do that?
You know? When you do it on other characters. I simply jump up into the air. I don't 'cancel' the footstool when I'm doing it on robin.
edit: yup, I'm just jumping into the air like what would happen when you perform it on another character. I looked it up and I've already seen several guys saying it was patched.
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NickRiddle
: have you already downloaded the patch? v1. something. If you did, can you still do that?
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NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Any chance you could record what is happening? I DLed the patch and it still works fine for me.
Shuckle89
Smash Apprentice
Well, I could, but that would mean a lot of work, as I need to fix my camera, then make a replay, make a video, and then upload it.
It's just like what happens when you perform it on any other character.
I pick zero suit samus. I choose robin as opponent in training mode. I change speed to 1/4.
I walk towards robin, do downsmash and stun him. While he's stunned, I quickly turn around, do a short hop on him, press jump again and then spam B.
I end up doing a full footstool, like what happens when you do it to any character. I make a full jump into the air, and the neutral B is being performed at jump height above the opponent.
If you still don't know what I mean I'll try and upload it. or am I doing a footstool wrong or something?
It's just like what happens when you perform it on any other character.
I pick zero suit samus. I choose robin as opponent in training mode. I change speed to 1/4.
I walk towards robin, do downsmash and stun him. While he's stunned, I quickly turn around, do a short hop on him, press jump again and then spam B.
I end up doing a full footstool, like what happens when you do it to any character. I make a full jump into the air, and the neutral B is being performed at jump height above the opponent.
If you still don't know what I mean I'll try and upload it. or am I doing a footstool wrong or something?
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
If Robin moves any distance upwards after the stun you will do a full footstool.
It means you're doing it too slowly.
A couple of solution:
Start it with Robin at a higher %.
Use a fully charged paralyzer as the stun lasts longer.
Do it faster (which isn't really helpful advice)
I can put up a video today detailing how exactly I do it if you would like.
It means you're doing it too slowly.
A couple of solution:
Start it with Robin at a higher %.
Use a fully charged paralyzer as the stun lasts longer.
Do it faster (which isn't really helpful advice)
I can put up a video today detailing how exactly I do it if you would like.
Shuckle89
Smash Apprentice
Yeah that would be great. And no, robin doesn't move any distance upwards after I stun him.
I'll see if I can get a video myself because I find it very strange.
I'll see if I can get a video myself because I find it very strange.
pichuthedk
Smash Lord
The best way to learn this i feel like because i hate the circle pad is to not bother turning around just footstool and breverse the laser saves you time i guess.
even with the saved time I still can't do consistently zzz.
even with the saved time I still can't do consistently zzz.
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Shuckle89
Smash Apprentice
Well, making a video myself isn't going to work I'm afraid. Can't get the cam to work. Guess I'll have to buy a dazzle after all (I was already thinking of buying one).
I don't know what it is. Knowing myself, it could be that I'm doing something very stupid, but as far as I can tell, it just works like you'd do it on any other character. No matter whether what I do. If I try what pichuthedk said it won't work either. Just whenever I footstool, I make a full jump everytime. Unless you're supposed to tech it (?) whatever, but I just jump entirely into the air.
I don't know what it is. Knowing myself, it could be that I'm doing something very stupid, but as far as I can tell, it just works like you'd do it on any other character. No matter whether what I do. If I try what pichuthedk said it won't work either. Just whenever I footstool, I make a full jump everytime. Unless you're supposed to tech it (?) whatever, but I just jump entirely into the air.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
I'll get that up later today.