Zard Shield Pressure

[GrandpaDukes]

Hey guys, I was just curious... what options does Charizard have for safe shield pressure? I know he can do spaced aerials which are pretty much safe, but does he actually have anything that's safe on shield even at point blank? Like Ganon's fair for example. It's safe when spaced, but even if u hit point blank you can jab before getting shield grabbed if you time it right. Thanks in advance!

 

[JOE!]

Jab Sweet: -18
Jab Sour: -16

Dash Sweet: -20
Dash Sour: -11

Ftilt Head: -11
Ftilt Neck: -15

Dtilt Fire: -13
Dtilt Tail: -14

Utilt: -19

Fsmash Fire: -30
Fsmash Neck/Shoulder: -32
Fsmash Sour: -31

Usmash 1: -36
Usmash 2: -24

Dsmash Inner: -16
Dsmash Quake: -15


~~~~~~Aerials~~~~~~

Nair Fire 1 (Behind ~ Quarter Circle): -25
*****SHLC**** : -6

Nair Fire 2 (Top of head ~ Quarter circle): -19
*****LC**** : -5

Nair Fire 3 (Front Quartercricle): -17
*****LC**** : -6

Nair Fire 3 (Back Quartercricle): -10
*****LC**** : -6

Nair Tail: -25 ~~~ -10 based on spacing
*****LC**** : -6
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Fair Sweet: -8
*****LC**** : -4

Fair Sour: -13
*****LC**** : -7
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Bair Sweet Fire: -17
*****LC**** : -3

Bair Sweet Tail: -18
*****LC**** : -4

Bair Sour: -16
*****LC**** : -5
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(I guess this is for shield dropping data?)
Uair Bite: -20
*****LC**** : -3

(These can hit low)
Uair Neck: -21
*****LC**** : -4

Uair Sour: -18
*****LC**** : -5
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Dair: -24
*****LC**** : -1

 

[Doraki]

With a perfectly timed dair, you can spotdodge an incoming grab, and mayyybe up-b through it.

 

[GrandpaDukes]

coool thanks fellas

 

[JOE!]

Keep in mind that Nair, Bair, Dtilt and Jab all have some disjoint (though that doesn't really matter with jab)

 

[metroid1117]

Hey guys, I was just curious... what options does Charizard have for safe shield pressure? I know he can do spaced aerials which are pretty much safe, but does he actually have anything that's safe on shield even at point blank? Like Ganon's fair for example. It's safe when spaced, but even if u hit point blank you can jab before getting shield grabbed if you time it right. Thanks in advance!

JOE! has done a brilliant job answering your question, but just FYI, the shieldstun of an attack is directly proportional to the amount of damage that the attack does - Ganon's FAir has so much shield stun because it does 17%, and the same concept is true for Falcon's knee (which does 18%). While Charizard, unfortunately, doesn't really have that many high-damaging attacks with low cooldown, this also means that as attacks are repeatedly used and become stale, they will do less damage and therefore less shieldstun; this means that after repeated uses, moves like Ganon's FAir and Falcon's knee do not become useful for shield pressure.