Zamus: separate Char./Samus transform

[Danielman]

Ok I know a lot of people think Zamus wont be playable in tourneys.What if she has her own character slot and tranforms into samus using her FS, like samus. Aka. I choose Zamus and her FS turns me into Samus, and viceversa.

Please comment and discuss

 

[IllidR]

I don't think they should be different character slots but if you hold A or something at the start of the match you start as Zero Suit Samus.

 

[Tsen]

First off i'll take it easy on you as I usually do for first-timers so the word you were looking for is discuss, secondly i'm sure there's already a thread about the Samus / Zamus different character or transformation discussion thread so there isn't much to say here. A character is a character i'm sure none will be banned in any tournaments just some of their moves maybe (such as luigi's ladder) not much to discuss /game over

 

[Danielman]

First off i'll take it easy on you as I usually do for first-timers so the word you were looking for is discuss, secondly i'm sure there's already a thread about the Samus / Zamus different character or transformation discussion thread so there isn't much to say here. A character is a character i'm sure none will be banned in any tournaments just some of their moves maybe (such as luigi's ladder) not much to discuss /game over

I never said she was going to be banned from tournaments, but alot of people think that without items she isnt going to be playable because of the final smash needed to transform.
there probably IS already a thread about this because i searched once only. the other possibility is that you select samus and press a or b at the begining, and you start off with Zamus

 

[Hong]

Masahiro Sakurai isn't as naive or clueless as people around here think he is. :/

Would he really, honestly be as dumb and narrowsighted as to make Zero Suit Samus that exclusive? It would not only upset the developers but the fans as well. There's really no reason to and I'm 100% sure there is more than one way to play as her. This game has two years of development time, with two titles to draw trial and error from. They really won't be so clueless as to see the flaw with doing that.

 

[Gypsy Lee]

Why does anyone even want to play as ZSS? You guys do realize that she'll probably be an intentionally bad character right?

 

[Tsen]

Maybe, maybe not you can never tell how good a character is until you've played as them or see a x pro I mean I didn't think falcon was good until I saw Isai for goodness sake

 

[Gypsy Lee]

I know that; I'm not judging how good a character is from screen shots. In, Metroid Zero Mission, she was very, very weak and was easily killed. In Brawl, it seems that Samus has an extremely powerful final smash, and to balance it out, you have to play as the feeble suitless Samus afterwards. Would it make sense for her to be any good? No. That'd be like Pichu being top tier.

 

[Danielman]

Masahiro Sakurai isn't as naive or clueless as people around here think he is. :/

Would he really, honestly be as dumb and narrowsighted as to make Zero Suit Samus that exclusive? It would not only upset the developers but the fans as well. There's really no reason to and I'm 100% sure there is more than one way to play as her. This game has two years of development time, with two titles to draw trial and error from. They really won't be so clueless as to see the flaw with doing that.

I never said that Zamus could only be played by using a finalsmash, but there are people saying that, and until its confirmed,Zamus is still only FS accessible.(not saying it will be like that but so far thats the only way we know about how to play with her)

Edit: deleted Gypsy lee s quote. Did NOT see Tsens post

 

[Hong]

I know that; I'm not judging how good a character is from screen shots. In, Metroid Zero Mission, she was very, very weak and was easily killed. In Brawl, it seems that Samus has an extremely powerful final smash, and to balance it out, you have to play as the feeble suitless Samus afterwards. Would it make sense for her to be any good? No. That'd be like Pichu being top tier.

Actually. Pichu is considered stronger than Pikachu by many, as well as Young Link compared to Link. Dr. Mario, someone who spends all day in his lab, has next to no physical exercise (as per trophy) yet he's infinitely more powerful. Zero Suit Samus is already described as faster, and her whip attacks have greater melee range. There are already advantages and we haven't seen her in full. I'd love to be able to use Samus' stunner in the power suit as a setup, but the game didn't allow for that.

I mean, if you wanted Samus but got changed to another character you didn't want to play, wouldn't that be enough of a downside despite how good or bad she is? For a random example, what if using let's say, Wario's Final Smash turned you into Donkey Kong? (makes no sense, just an example.) You wouldn't want that since it's a completely different character from the one you picked. They could have done it simply because it's an option and a way to make it different from the 35+ Final Smashes they have.

I never said that Zamus could only be played by using a finalsmash, but there are people saying that, and until its confirmed,Zamus is still only FS accessible.(not saying it will be like that but so far thats the only way we know about how to play with her)

My post wasn't in disagreement with yours. If anything, supporting it.

 

[Tsen]

Bah tired of all the emo-rat haters have you not seen the thread pichu is top tier..geez

 

[Danielman]

My post wasn't in disagreement with yours. If anything, supporting it.

I just said we didnt know if there was another way of playing Zamus from the start or in no items match

 

[Gypsy Lee]

Actually. Pichu is considered stronger than Pikachu by many, as well as Young Link compared to Link. Dr. Mario, someone who spends all day in his lab, has next to no physical exercise (as per trophy) yet he's infinitely more powerful. Zero Suit Samus is already described as faster, and her whip attacks have greater melee range. There are already advantages and we haven't seen her in full. I'd love to be able to use Samus' stunner in the power suit as a setup, but the game didn't allow for that.

I mean, if you wanted Samus but got changed to another character you didn't want to play, wouldn't that be enough of a downside despite how good or bad she is? For a random example, what if using let's say, Wario's Final Smash turned you into Donkey Kong? (makes no sense, just an example.) You wouldn't want that since it's a completely different character from the one you picked. They could have done it simply because it's an option and a way to make it different from the 35+ Final Smashes they have.My post wasn't in disagreement with yours. If anything, supporting it.

I don't see your point. You just made a different theory that makes less sense than mine. Zamus will be a weak character and you can take my word for it, for all it's worth.

 

[Hong]

I don't see your point. You just made a different theory that makes less sense than mine. Zamus will be a weak character and you can take my word for it, for all it's worth.

Every bit of it makes sense. It's saying because they were weaker in their games, it doesn't make them weaker in smash and I gave fine examples from melee and Sakurai's statements. I also gave an example that changing to another character you didn't choose initially is enough of a disadvantage.

 

[Tsen]

Hmm yes because they were weak in other games doesn't make them bad in smash indeed I mean you don't play as peach in mario..except in super paper and I think rpg...because she seems terrible yes? But this chick has the sickest dsmash in game and she can pull bombs out of an imaginary garden for god's sake o.0