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Winning the Psychological Battle; How Not to get Discouraged During a Match?

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I've lost count of how many For Glory matches I've lost because I panicked mid-match when I couldn't land a KO move on the opponent after getting their damage high, or because I got angry at the opponent for choosing a character I have problems with, or because I just got bored after being forced to camp and just wanted to get it over with already.

I don't know how to keep a cool head, basically, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

So, any advice for dealing with this problem?
 
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My solution to the "choosing a character I have problems with" was to stop using my main online. Robin's slow enough and has enough timing issues without the lag, so I just play other characters around that.

As for the rest, while it's kinda difficult, I'd suggest just kinda force yourself to change attitudes and try to relax. When I notice myself shaking and getting worked up, I either take a break and play other games (normally Dota, not a good alternate for relaxing I might add), or just find another opponent or go play For Fun. Sometimes I just swap characters (helps justify my defeat, in my mind) and don't care if my win rate drops a bit, since it's still pretty high due to launch-week opponents being most of when I played before I took a long diversion to unlock every custom move.

In short, try to approach it in a more relaxed way, or if that's harder to do, just take a break whenever you find yourself getting worked up.
 
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This is actually my area of expertise as compared to most players my mind is very quick but my twitch responses certainly are not the fastest on the planet. Most of the fights that I have won have been won before the match even started simply b ecause I have a very strong mindset that is hard to crack. You need to thrive on challenge and not let it overcome you. When you are in a deficit you need it to elevate your play not let it bring you down. The only way I can truly feel this way is with a proper combination of study and practice so I know that I am in full control of my character at all times, while constantly improving said character.

I've been playing poker for years for years, in casinos and online with a good amount of money on the line. I feel the exact same adrenaline rush as I do when I have hundreds on the line as I do when i'm a good match of smash bros. The way you prepare so you don't crack under the pressure is really identical and it's what I used in that craft to chisel out this tough to crack mindset when going into a game.

I will give you one tip right now that is the absolute 100% most important thing anybody could ever tell you when you are doing ANYTHING in life that involves you performing at your personal best, and for your benefit I truly hope you keep an open mind. Breathing is all you need. That's right, just breathe. The definition of meditation is concentration on your breathing. If you can meditate while you play aka, focus on your breathing while you perform, you will always be in a position to get the most from yourself.

Why is this? You may ask yourself, the answer is simple. To perform a simple action of following your breath, which I will briefly explain: Simply pay attention to your inhale, the entire way, and your exhale, the entire way. Try to make them both the same length of time, or as close to it as you can. Consistently breathe, do not hold your breath at all. If you allow a consistent flow of oxygen into your body and are mindful of it the entire time, you are going to be at a significant advantage over your opponents in the "not cracking" area of your game. When you are following your breath like this, you are focused to play out of instinct, you literally do not have the mental capacity to think in a conscious state and play a game at 60fps if you are following your breath. Everything you will do will be subconscious, meaning only things that you have practiced to the level of mastery will show up in your performance. Each concept or advanced technique you are trying to implement in your game will not show up, only the things you can do in your sleep.

This allows you to see what you need to work on to the point of subconscious performance while simultaneously keeping you 100% in the moment, which will always put you in your best position to succeed, in any facet of life.
 
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My solution to the "choosing a character I have problems with" was to stop using my main online. Robin's slow enough and has enough timing issues without the lag, so I just play other characters around that.

As for the rest, while it's kinda difficult, I'd suggest just kinda force yourself to change attitudes and try to relax. When I notice myself shaking and getting worked up, I either take a break and play other games (normally Dota, not a good alternate for relaxing I might add), or just find another opponent or go play For Fun. Sometimes I just swap characters (helps justify my defeat, in my mind) and don't care if my win rate drops a bit, since it's still pretty high due to launch-week opponents being most of when I played before I took a long diversion to unlock every custom move.

In short, try to approach it in a more relaxed way, or if that's harder to do, just take a break whenever you find yourself getting worked up.
For the first point, the sole reason I started maining Palutena is because I have such an actively burning hatred for Mega Man, who she hard-counters in every way. And even that isn't helping me stop freaking out and going berserk against him.

I am trying the "playing other games to calm down" thing, though... It's part of the reason why I'm so glad nearly all of my games are from the eShop.

This is actually my area of expertise as compared to most players my mind is very quick but my twitch responses certainly are not the fastest on the planet. Most of the fights that I have won have been won before the match even started simply b ecause I have a very strong mindset that is hard to crack. You need to thrive on challenge and not let it overcome you. When you are in a deficit you need it to elevate your play not let it bring you down. The only way I can truly feel this way is with a proper combination of study and practice so I know that I am in full control of my character at all times, while constantly improving said character.

I've been playing poker for years for years, in casinos and online with a good amount of money on the line. I feel the exact same adrenaline rush as I do when I have hundreds on the line as I do when i'm a good match of smash bros. The way you prepare so you don't crack under the pressure is really identical and it's what I used in that craft to chisel out this tough to crack mindset when going into a game.

I will give you one tip right now that is the absolute 100% most important thing anybody could ever tell you when you are doing ANYTHING in life that involves you performing at your personal best, and for your benefit I truly hope you keep an open mind. Breathing is all you need. That's right, just breathe. The definition of meditation is concentration on your breathing. If you can meditate while you play aka, focus on your breathing while you perform, you will always be in a position to get the most from yourself.

Why is this? You may ask yourself, the answer is simple. To perform a simple action of following your breath, which I will briefly explain: Simply pay attention to your inhale, the entire way, and your exhale, the entire way. Try to make them both the same length of time, or as close to it as you can. Consistently breathe, do not hold your breath at all. If you allow a consistent flow of oxygen into your body and are mindful of it the entire time, you are going to be at a significant advantage over your opponents in the "not cracking" area of your game. When you are following your breath like this, you are focused to play out of instinct, you literally do not have the mental capacity to think in a conscious state and play a game at 60fps if you are following your breath. Everything you will do will be subconscious, meaning only things that you have practiced to the level of mastery will show up in your performance. Each concept or advanced technique you are trying to implement in your game will not show up, only the things you can do in your sleep.

This allows you to see what you need to work on to the point of subconscious performance while simultaneously keeping you 100% in the moment, which will always put you in your best position to succeed, in any facet of life.
So Deep Breathing can make me more powerful. :4wiifit:

I'm just kidding there, but in all seriousness, that sounds like something I should try.
 
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Me, I like to make sure that there's nothing outside the game to distract me, although it takes something big to upset me. (Like, a corrupt save or a permanently missed item.)
 

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Do what you gotta do to stay ahead. Take a deep breath and doing false approaches is a good way to go, in my opinion. These are my two cents.
 
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This is actually my area of expertise as compared to most players my mind is very quick but my twitch responses certainly are not the fastest on the planet. Most of the fights that I have won have been won before the match even started simply b ecause I have a very strong mindset that is hard to crack. You need to thrive on challenge and not let it overcome you. When you are in a deficit you need it to elevate your play not let it bring you down. The only way I can truly feel this way is with a proper combination of study and practice so I know that I am in full control of my character at all times, while constantly improving said character.

I've been playing poker for years for years, in casinos and online with a good amount of money on the line. I feel the exact same adrenaline rush as I do when I have hundreds on the line as I do when i'm a good match of smash bros. The way you prepare so you don't crack under the pressure is really identical and it's what I used in that craft to chisel out this tough to crack mindset when going into a game.

I will give you one tip right now that is the absolute 100% most important thing anybody could ever tell you when you are doing ANYTHING in life that involves you performing at your personal best, and for your benefit I truly hope you keep an open mind. Breathing is all you need. That's right, just breathe. The definition of meditation is concentration on your breathing. If you can meditate while you play aka, focus on your breathing while you perform, you will always be in a position to get the most from yourself.

Why is this? You may ask yourself, the answer is simple. To perform a simple action of following your breath, which I will briefly explain: Simply pay attention to your inhale, the entire way, and your exhale, the entire way. Try to make them both the same length of time, or as close to it as you can. Consistently breathe, do not hold your breath at all. If you allow a consistent flow of oxygen into your body and are mindful of it the entire time, you are going to be at a significant advantage over your opponents in the "not cracking" area of your game. When you are following your breath like this, you are focused to play out of instinct, you literally do not have the mental capacity to think in a conscious state and play a game at 60fps if you are following your breath. Everything you will do will be subconscious, meaning only things that you have practiced to the level of mastery will show up in your performance. Each concept or advanced technique you are trying to implement in your game will not show up, only the things you can do in your sleep.

This allows you to see what you need to work on to the point of subconscious performance while simultaneously keeping you 100% in the moment, which will always put you in your best position to succeed, in any facet of life.
I'm going to bring you down. FIGHT ME!

I wrote these tips somewhere else on this Forum, but they are worth repeating here.

1.
Don't just blindly charge into battle. Your dash attack will be predicted, and punished. I'm SO guilty for this a lot of the time, but blind attacking is a surefire way to lose.

2.
It's a lot easier to be a pest and slowly rack up damage than to KO someone. So when you're constantly getting hammered and you can't get that KO move on that fool, it can suck. Try to find patterns in his movement so you can catch that little bumsack off guard.

3.
Sometimes, your character might just suck. Even if you're good. Prediction goes a long way, but in even matches of skill, the character may put you at a huge disadvantage. For example, Charizard can't just march up to Duck Hunt. (but really, it's hard period to get to a good Duck Hunt player)

4.
Mind games, mind games, mind games. Get into your opponent's head. Remember those times you get frustrated? Your opponent is as human as you are. They can feel what you can feel. Knowing this, use this to your advantage. Make it impossible to get hit. Dodge around. Sooner or later, your opponent will get greedy and thrust himself into your hands to smash you. Punish him for it. The more desperate, the easier it is to win.

5.
If you focus on winning and percentage and damage and tiny little things, you're going to lose because you have no plan. Get a game plan set up. Figure out in your head how you're going to beat the enemy. Think about what you would do if you were the opponent. Brawl is a game of Chess.

6.
Be unpredictable. Don't always roll. And if you DO roll, don't roll towards your opponent. People who always roll can be punished with predicted attacks and down and up smashes that hit both sides. Don't always sidestep. They too can be punished. And don't always shield. You can get grabbed and comboed. Basically, what I'm trying to say is don't always use one move. Mix it up.

7.
Have fun. Don't beat yourself up when you lose. Learn.
 
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For some reason, I can be wrecking someone online, but when they land two consecutive hits or pull some cool string, I immediately get discouraged. It can be a case of me being at 30% and them being at 140%, but seeing someone pull anything off on me completely throws me off. I guess I get scared easily, and the fear that I don't know my opponents peak skill puts me on tilt or something. Has this happened to anyone?
 
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For some reason, I can be wrecking someone online, but when they land two consecutive hits or pull some cool string, I immediately get discouraged. It can be a case of me being at 30% and them being at 140%, but seeing someone pull anything off on me completely throws me off. I guess I get scared easily, and the fear that I don't know my opponents peak skill puts me on tilt or something. Has this happened to anyone?
Eeeeeyup.
 

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A very important aspect of Smash Bros is not to focus exclusively on kill moves when the opponent is at kill percentage, because then you get predictable and they can avoid you. Yes, an early kill is nice, but more damage is good too, the more damage you put on, the more of your moves become kill moves, and by keeping the pressure on you're probably stopping them from hitting you, too.

As for not losing your nerve at crucial moments? That's something that can really only come from experience, and I think certain people are naturally better at it than others. Note that this skill is not tied to Smash, and playing any kind of game can help you get better here.

It may help to try to focus on the opponent's mental state as you play. Sometimes, you can tell that an opponent is flustered or intimidated, then you can just sit back and let them hang themselves. Once you start to recognize this tendency in others, hopefully you can start to do it a little bit less.
 

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Just put it in your mind that you can literally win the game at any moment. You'll be able to pull out some ridiculous come backs if you just keep that in your head while things go down. I've pulled out a 2 straight stocks to win the game while on my last stock at 120% just because I felt like I needed to and could. Mind games are the biggest part of Smash (any version) and could win you whole tournies alone. Just have to be a confident person. Wife has said many times before that Smash is a different realm where you get to be a more confident person even if you aren't irl.
 

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A very important aspect of Smash Bros is not to focus exclusively on kill moves when the opponent is at kill percentage, because then you get predictable and they can avoid you. Yes, an early kill is nice, but more damage is good too, the more damage you put on, the more of your moves become kill moves, and by keeping the pressure on you're probably stopping them from hitting you, too.

As for not losing your nerve at crucial moments? That's something that can really only come from experience, and I think certain people are naturally better at it than others. Note that this skill is not tied to Smash, and playing any kind of game can help you get better here.

It may help to try to focus on the opponent's mental state as you play. Sometimes, you can tell that an opponent is flustered or intimidated, then you can just sit back and let them hang themselves. Once you start to recognize this tendency in others, hopefully you can start to do it a little bit less.
Yeah, I'm starting to notice when my opponents are one foot in the grave. Like this Iggy player earlier today who was doing decently against my Greninja until I got them over 160% on their last stock, while I was at 20% on my last stock. They just suddenly started spamming Clown Kart; the match was basically already over at that point, and finishing it with a Substitute was basically just a formality.
 

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Here are some tips (it works on me):
-As stated before, breathe.
-If playing with music does not bother you (and if you can) listen to relaxing music, I find it harder to get angry when you have relaxing music in the background, and if you don't get angry, you are less likely to "panic" during a game.
-When you feel like panicking during a game, try to find a way to make a quick pause (playing around a corner or using some recovery moves while not needed in the air) and look at the situation, and once you're on the ground use what you've seen and what you thought about to get back in the game.
-Try to change the way you act. Maybe your oponent is predicting you very well.
-Remember that it's just a game, win or lose, have fun. (Even if you play for glory, your W/L ratio still does not matter.)
-If you have many of these games in a row, make a pause and try to relax.

And if you lose, try to see what your oponent did to you, and learn from it.
Hope I could help.
 

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Remember, until the announcer shouts GAME, you haven't lost. Just the other day I had a huge comeback against a Duck Hunt while playing Robin on For Glory. I messed up and died once early, leaving DH a stock ahead and at a fairly low percentage. To make matters worse, he started reading me really well and built me up to over 100% without taking hardly any damage. I was caught in some nasty, predictable, routines. But I didn't panic and I focused on mixing up my attacks and in turn predicting his habits, and I managed to kill him once and then kill him with a smash at a crazy low percentage a second time to close the match, despite being vulnerable at over 100% for a frighteningly long time.

The stuff's not easy, and you won't be able to salvage a losing match every time, but you can pull out a surprising number of matches just by setting emotions aside and thinking. I've been on the other end too, where I've lost to people seemingly less technically skilled than me who adapted better and were able to read and defeat me. The fact that you're losing doesn't matter nearly as much as HOW you are losing. Analyze your opponent and yourself. KO moves in particular almost always require a fair amount of prediction to use.

And most of all, if you're getting angry or unreasonable, take a break from playing. I've found that playing more while you're mad and illogical will almost always result in you losing to more people, in turn making you more frustrated. Take a break and do something relaxing to clear your head.
 

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Since it sounds like particular characters piss you off, I'd work on that. same for me too, Sheik used to make me want to cry but now I'm fairly comfortable with knowing what she can do and what I need to do to prevent that from happening. Same with Little Mac-- I know I have to play stupidly boring to beat him, not rush in blind just cuz I want to get it over with.

Also, this is just me but if I'm up against not the player but **** like unbearable lag, I'll SD to end the match. My sanity is not worth watching a slideshow of me losing to laggy wifi strats.
 

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For some reason, I can be wrecking someone online, but when they land two consecutive hits or pull some cool string, I immediately get discouraged. It can be a case of me being at 30% and them being at 140%, but seeing someone pull anything off on me completely throws me off. I guess I get scared easily, and the fear that I don't know my opponents peak skill puts me on tilt or something. Has this happened to anyone?
This is super strange, I get a completely different reaction when this happens to me. My mentality immediately goes to "Who the eff does this guy think he is landing that on me, he won't touch me once more before this match is over". It just pisses me off (in a good controlled anger kind of way) and makes me want to beat them into the ground even harder.

I go into every match of super smash bros with the mentality that I am without a doubt the best of the two players in the current match, I simply will not lose. Of course this isn't always the outcome, but I feel like this mindset is invaluable to never losing confidence. Even if i'm at 150+% and my opponent is at 0, it's all good, you just have to continue with the mindset that your opponent wont even touch you one more time. If they don't you're good, so do everything you can do make that happen.
 

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I do the opposite. I go in with the idea that I'm a much worse smasher than my opponent. Then I go clutch and win. It should probably be said that I win almost every match I play. Just in case someone wants to say this doesn't work. The only reason I have an issue with this mentality is that it stresses me out midmatch, and then I realize afterward I didn't need to worry.

I kind of just enjoy the idea of respecting every smash player for their respective skill set. I know I'm not that good and I don't want to trample over anyone else's confidence either.
 
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