Will Change the Way Edge-Guarding Works.. Good or Bad?

[kgozi]

'Last night on Miiverse, Smash Bros creator Masahiro Sakurai posted some new details about how edge guarding would change in the new game.'

What do you guys think, will this kill some tactics or maybe be a good idea?

 

[Mysteltainn]

Seems like it'll make the game a bit more forgiving for casual players, but may allow certain lower tier characters who had **** recoveries step into the spotlight a little more.

Kind of hard to tell thus far because we only have the mechanics of SB64 / Melee and Brawl to base it off.

 

[PillsBuryDopeBoy]

As long as they don't fak it up, it sounds like an overall good idea. I mean Brawls edge game was ...... (LOL what edge game?), and Melee's seemed far to easy. This however seem's very interesting.

 

[ZelDan]

Kind of hard to tell without actually seeing it in action or getting more into detail about it, but from what we know now it sounds fine and promising. I'm interested.

 

[Renji64]

Can't tell it seems like a fix for casuals who cry about edgehogging. Still not sure if this is good for everyone or just one part of the audience.

 

[pitthekit]

We'll for competitive sake characters like link who are low tier and have crap recovery should go up the tier list.

Also how will this affect characters with multi-jumps? Also invincibly time is determined by air time... Will this have a cap or will characters like pit who can recover very far just fly vertical and FF down to the ledge to get a huge invincibly time?

 

[1MachGO]

I get the feeling the edge hogging will become even more situational than it already was; possibly entirely unviable

The picture indicates that it is now possible to out prioritize someone on the ledge without having to hit them off it. I can only speculate, but it is most likely that this out-prioritization will only occur when the ledge occupant is no longer invincible. If this is the case, this means that edge hogging will become immensely strict.

For instance, if you hog the edge and successfully use your invincibility frames to avoid ALL of your opponent's up-b hitboxes, there is still a good chance that they'll still be able to out prioritize your ledge occupancy if their up-b has any kind of hang time (such as Marth). This also means that characters who recover high and fall to the ledge in special fall (helpless state) cannot be edge hogged unless the edge hogger is invincible.

Factor in the new stats that determine the amount of the invincibility frames (which would seem to be more air time and more damage = more invincibility frames) then base invincibility frames could be lower than it was in previous games. This more or less leads to the conclusion that edge hogging timing will stricter and that recovering players will have more potential.

I don't necessarily think this is bad news, but if onstage edge guarding is nerfed by auto-sweet spotting then Smash 4 will effectively become the easiest game in the series to recover in.

 

[ndayday]

I'm going to lock this since there's already a thread for this:
http://smashboards.com/threads/new-ledgegrabbing-mechanic-confirmed.346444/

Feel free to post there.