Why are Samus and ZSS still connected?

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

I've seen people discuss whether Zelda/Sheik and Samus/ZSS should be separated or not, and while I can understand why someone may want Zelda/Sheik to stay together, I don't see a point in Samus and ZSS being together. IIRC, they removed the ability to transform between the two by using taunts (Which wasn't easy to do or practical anyway) which means that the only way to transform the two is through their FS. However, nobody ever seemed to like being forced to switch between characters in order to use their FS in the first place, so why keep this feature?

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

...Because this is PM and not Smash 4?

 

[Kipcom]

Because their Final Smashes do not take priority over most of the other things that PMDT focuses on (balancing, adding new stages/modes, etc). I don't really think PMDT cares about this situation at all.

It was different for Squirtle, Ivy, and Zard, because their Final Smashes flat out didn't work previously (so the PMDT had to give them new ones).

I wouldn't mind or care if they decided to make this change, but it still doesn't seem like anything important on their to-do-list.

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

Because their Final Smashes do not take priority over most of the other things that PMDT focuses on (balancing, adding new stages/modes, etc). I don't really think PMDT cares about this situation at all.

It was different for Squirtle, Ivy, and Zard, because their Final Smashes flat out didn't work previously (so the PMDT had to give them new ones).

I wouldn't mind or care if they decided to make this change, but it still doesn't seem like anything important on their to-do-list.

I was just curious as to whether there was a specific reason why they wanted to keep them together. Would it really be that difficult to make them not transform after their FS? Honest question. They've added neat things like secret taunts and eater eggs that don't really effect the game, but they do it anyway because they want to. They wouldn't have to make brand new FS' like they did for the Pokemon either. It's not really a big deal. It's just something that I'd been thinking of lately.

 

[ShadowGanon]

I was just curious as to whether there was a specific reason why they wanted to keep them together. Would it really be that difficult to make them not transform after their FS? Honest question. They've added neat things like secret taunts and eater eggs that don't really effect the game, but they do it anyway because they want to. They wouldn't have to make brand new FS' like they did for the Pokemon either. It's not really a big deal. It's just something that I'd been thinking of lately.

You'd end up having to make a new FS for ZSS anyways because the current one is her transforming into normal Samus.

 

[Narpas_sword]

http://smashboards.com/threads/optional-final-smash-transformation-for-samus-zss.386651/

 

[ThePlacidPlatypus]

You'd end up having to make a new FS for ZSS anyways because the current one is her transforming into normal Samus.

It actually does more than that. It pulls people in and does damage before throwing them away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c_D93ANMBE

Just maybe buff the knockback and perhaps the distance at which you pull people in and it would work fine.

 

[Comeback Kid]

I think they both should still be connected by the L or R button the way that Giga Bowser, Warioman and SOPO are.

For one big reason: You can't transform into ZSS in Subspace Emissary from what I have seen which is an unfortunate side effect that hasn't been addressed.

You're not allowed to transform into those former characters either in a tournament and I don't see why the same rule can't apply for a surprise character switch if that is a concern people have,

 

[Chevy]

I like the final smash switch, it's cute. They should be separated for one reason though.

Samus's alternate costumes in SSBM

• Orange (Red) (default)

• Used when Samus is on the Red team.

Varia Suit for red team please.

 

[The Party]

...Because this is PM and not Smash 4?

That's kind of silly reasoning. Just because something is a good idea, but in a different game, doesn't mean that it shouldn't be implemented.