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When you lose in 2 v 2 glory match, do you blame your teammate or yourself most of the time?

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Take responsibility for your faults, and don't even worry about blaming the other guy. Sure, you might get all the kills, but how much of the damage did you actually rack up? Yeah, he may have died 3 times, but who really put more effort in? If you lost, you have to blame yourself for a part of it, even if you think that you worked harder.
 
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I don't really blame anyone. The other team just played better. I mean personally, I have WAY too much fun doing 2 v 2 to really throw blame at my random team mate when we do lose.
 

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The outcome of a 2v2 game heavily relies on the synergy each of the two partners have, so if you're playing a game where you're randomly matched up with another player you could end up with someone who can read your mind, or somebody who cannot see what's going on whatsoever. That doesn't necessarily mean your partner is bad it just means that you two haven't adapted to one another and as a result you can't play as well, so if you're up against a pair who is able to synergies and is a decent player odds are you aren't going to win.
Now just because you don't win your game doesn't mean you need to start blaming anyone.
I'm not going to blame anybody if I lose a 2v2 if me and my partner try our best to defeat the opponent and get outplayed, that's just stupid. You're obviously not going to win every game, however you do have the option to learn from every game and that is what you should be doing. I've learned over time that blaming gets you nowhere, and whilst there was nothing you could do about that little mac who SideB of the stage twice you've got to remember that in smash there are 'No Johns'.

I'm really going off on a tangent and I haven't even answered your question :p. But what I'm trying to say is that you shouldn't blame yourself or anyone else for a loss so long as both you and your partner try to win because there are definitely people out there who can and will beat you.
However I'm not going to deny I get a little salty when I have a partner who SD's twice...
 
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"Most of the time?" I blame myself but that's not often. There's actually quite a few people that understand teams pretty well by covering my recoveries, weaving inbetween my attacks, and understand "when I grab the enemy you punch them hard!" But sometimes I may SD or kick myself because I got KOed by an attack last second. Generally I'm really happy with For Glory teams players, there's a few scrubs here and there but most seem to understand teams fundamentals. That being said there are times when it's my teammate getting bodied in 1v1s or the person SDs and gets hit by all the easy stuff.
 

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If you ever want to improve and get better, you have to suck it up and blame yourself.
 

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If you ever want to improve and get better, you have to suck it up and blame yourself.
I can't necessarily agree with that 100% of the time. Because if you have a terrible team mate who (intentionally or not) ends up SDing a certain amount of times it gets to the point where winning is quite literally impossible and sadly there is nothing you can do to prevent them from SDing. Now the scenario I've described would be very unlikely to occur, and I'm usually against blaming people, however there will be scenarios where you might lose a match and it will be the fault of one specific character,
 

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I can't necessarily agree with that 100% of the time. Because if you have a terrible team mate who (intentionally or not) ends up SDing a certain amount of times it gets to the point where winning is quite literally impossible and sadly there is nothing you can do to prevent them from SDing. Now the scenario I've described would be very unlikely to occur, and I'm usually against blaming people, however there will be scenarios where you might lose a match and it will be the fault of one specific character,
Even if it is, you can't "blame" them. If anything give them some feedback, or if its in a setting like For Glory, just leave knowing what mistakes you made in the match. You're NEVER going to have a perfect game so you might as well just focus on your own play and try to improve.
 

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Even if it is, you can't "blame" them. If anything give them some feedback, or if its in a setting like For Glory, just leave knowing what mistakes you made in the match. You're NEVER going to have a perfect game so you might as well just focus on your own play and try to improve.
Well the definition of the word 'blame' is: 1. assign responsibility for a fault or wrong.
However it seems to me your avoiding my statement, I never said to stop learning from your mistakes or that you weren't going to improve even with a terrible partner. No, I just said in situations where you have a partner that is clearly a majority of the reason the game was lost you are able to assign part of the blame to them. I'm aware that there is no such thing as a perfect game, and I'm not going to start getting angry every time I lose, I do however believe I reserve the right to account my partner's terrible play* as partial reason for the game's loss.
*Every game would be a case by case scenario, there's no specific criteria or guideline used for when determining whether a player was useful or not and it's of course a purely subjective interpretation.
 

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Well the definition of the word 'blame' is: 1. assign responsibility for a fault or wrong.
However it seems to me your avoiding my statement, I never said to stop learning from your mistakes or that you weren't going to improve even with a terrible partner. No, I just said in situations where you have a partner that is clearly a majority of the reason the game was lost you are able to assign part of the blame to them. I'm aware that there is no such thing as a perfect game, and I'm not going to start getting angry every time I lose, I do however believe I reserve the right to account my partner's terrible play* as partial reason for the game's loss.
*Every game would be a case by case scenario, there's no specific criteria or guideline used for when determining whether a player was useful or not and it's of course a purely subjective interpretation.
If were talking about SD's then its your fault for not saving em'. If they just missed a smash attack then its your fault for not setting them up better. If they just got read, its your fault for not reading the read and stopping them.

Of course these are your teammates fault and you have the right to blame them, but this is just the mindset I think people should have if they want to improve.
 

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I don't blame anyone when I play 2v2, namely because I refuse to play 2v2 with anonymous strangers.

Team games are about understanding your teammates' needs and covering each others' bases. If you cannot understand your teammate, you are not a team, thus both of you are at fault. This is exactly why I stopped playing team games with random pubbies in TF2 and MOBAs; I can't stand games where my performance only affects one third of the match, and teams are not always cohesive enough to make the match fun.
 
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No matter a win or loss, I'll always look at my play and think about what I can do better.

Blaming people, including yourself, doesn't get you anywhere. Blaming other people is a terrible habit to get into. Its highly unlikely you played that game perfectly, so you can always improve.

But also if I 2v2 I'll try and look at what the others did well and badly, and factor that into my learning.

But yeah, avoid blame games. One of the worst types of competitor you can be is when you go "oh well its his fault" and don't look introspectively on what you do. It stunts your growth.

Also I dont mean you personally, I mean you in the abstract.
 

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I don't blame anyone when I play 2v2, namely because I refuse to play 2v2 with anonymous strangers.

Team games are about understanding your teammates' needs and covering each others' bases. If you cannot understand your teammate, you are not a team, thus both of you are at fault. This is exactly why I stopped playing team games with random pubbies in TF2 and MOBAs; I can't stand games where my performance only affects one third of the match, and teams are not always cohesive enough to make the match fun.
I couldn't agree more! This is the reason I quit playing LoL; because how hard it is to carry. At least with 2v2's, your performance affects 1/2.
 

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I definitely lean more towards the "blaming myself" side. If I lose a match in general, I try to think of what I did wrong and how I can improve my skills. I do get a bit mad when someone's really bad and playing with me though.

It's not like I play a lot of 2v2's on For Glory anyway. I'd rather stick on 1v1 and play with a buddy instead whenever I play 2v2.
 
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I don't really blame anyone to be honest. If you lose, you lose because the other team worked better together and were more skilful. However, one of the few times I start blaming is if one of us keeps making stupid mistakes (such as using characters they've rarely played and so don't know ANYTHING about their movesets , leading to SDs). Generally I only play characters I know on 2 v 2, so it's usually not my fault in this case :p
 

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If I see a little mac in team battle, I auto blame him before the game even starts. But if I fall more and there is 15 seconds left in the game and my team is attacking the guy who is at 0% and not 85%...
 
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