Smash Wii U What match-ups give you a tough time in Smash 4?

[Deleted member]

So for example, as a Zelda main, I tend to struggle against Sword/Projectile styled characters. What do you guys struggle with? Maybe we can all help each other out !

 

[BlowingUpMyGoodEye]

As a noob, I struggle against 'scary' characters like ganondorf, captain falcon, donkey kong...any character that has a solid grab game or powerful attacks, really. I get really flustered once I lose my momentum and the aforementioned characters are really good at punishing mistakes. Fighting them is not conducive to a good time.

Specifically though, fighting mobile characters like fox and ZSS is difficult because my moves are super laggy. Palutena is really prone to getting juggled as well unless I manage to Nair or warp to safety, and if I do land successfully there's not a lot in my kit that contends with speedy combo-based characters anyway. I'd like to mention kirby specifically because getting caught in his uptilt spamming sucks; the same applies to mario but the matchup isn't too difficult if I respect his smashes. Kirby's short stature bugs me as well.

 

[Deleted member]

As a noob, I struggle against 'scary' characters like ganondorf, captain falcon, donkey kong...any character that has a solid grab game or powerful attacks, really. I get really flustered once I lose my momentum and the aforementioned characters are really good at punishing mistakes. Fighting them is not conducive to a good time.

Specifically though, fighting mobile characters like fox and ZSS is difficult because my moves are super laggy. Palutena is really prone to getting juggled as well unless I manage to Nair or warp to safety, and if I do land successfully there's not a lot in my kit that contends with speedy combo-based characters anyway. I'd like to mention kirby specifically because getting caught in his uptilt spamming sucks; the same applies to mario but the matchup isn't too difficult if I respect his smashes. Kirby's short stature bugs me as well.

Well, as far as characters like Fox and Zss, (high tiers) if you play a character like Palu, all you can really can do is look for openings, and punish their mistakes. However, Fox, in my opinion, is easy to juggle. He is a fast faller, so try finding jab-grab-downthrow into Nair. And when they start air-dodgeing, start punishing their air dodges with her up-smash. It has excellent range and hits hard. Save her up-air for kills as its much stronger fresh. As far as characters like Ganon, he and other heavy weights have large hurtboxes, which means where they can be hit easier. Plus they are slower, so if they like spamming forward smashes or any move in particular, punish them right after the animation. Kirby gives me a tough time to, but he can be beaten. If the Kirby always goes for dair-uptilt, try shield grab or rolling away. Hope this helps

 

[Jomosensual]

As Ike I am dreadful against Mewtwo, who my younger brother happens to main.

 

[Frizz]

As a Robin main, rushdown characters are my Kryptonite. Robin's a zoner, so he needs to be mindful of his distance in order to be effective. But characters that won't give you time to breathe make zoning more difficult. It's also worth noting that characters with quick projectiles, like Sheik's needles, Mega Man's pellets, and Villager's slingshot pebbles, can easily disrupt Robin from fully casting a spell, therefore rendering it null and void as well as costing me a durability point (or more when using Elthunder/Arcthunder/Thoron). Characters with reflectors or absorption moves of some sort also gives me trouble.

 

[Deleted member]

As Ike I am dreadful against Mewtwo, who my younger brother happens to main.

Mewtwo is a powerful character with a great punish game and a annoying air-dodge, but his biggest weakness is weight. He is extremely light and can be ko'd easily with Ike's powerful attacks. Just find a opening or if your brother makes a mistake by mis spacing an aerial and punish accordingly. Also, try dash-dancing, shorthop nair as pressure and look for grabs. Hope this helps!

Also check out this video. Best guide on getting better with Ike!:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qfjw5DygdPU

 

[smashingDoug]

It all depends on how I’m playing and the skill of the other player.

Mewtwo is some one I played good against once

 

[DongleDude]

I don’t know why but I always suck against Yoshi no matter who I play (Rob, Marth, Olimar)

 

[MajoraLink100]

Playing as Toon Link against Cloud... I hate it so much

 

[Alsyght]

I always have a hard time against Zelda, Megaman, Yoshi, and Toon Link for some reason.

 

[Sudz]

As someone that plays a lot of projectile focused characters, Villager messes me up reaaaaallll bad. He's a mad man