What characters are easy enough to try to get better with?

[guedes the brawler]

Looking to get better, but i honestly have no idea of who to pick to try to learn the advanced stuff. Any suggestions?


Oh, and what would be the best way to start learning how to SHFFL? I am thinking of only doing two of the 3 techs at once instead of everything in one go, until i get the hang of it.

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

Genuine advice, even if it sounds dumb.

Learn short hopping consistently first. A good way to do this is to turn off tap jump when you fight and train. Also, going into training and learning the proper window of time to tap the button. Maybe start out with Fox/Kirby if you really want to get it down - it'll be harder because they have the shortest window of time to press the button for a short hop, but probably worth it in the long run.

Then learn to flick the C-stick real quick after SH to do an aerial. This part admittedly doesn't take a lot of practice.

After that, put it together. There's not point in learning SH-Fast Fall alone, so SHFF while doing an aerial. You'll know you did it right when the animation for the move is sort of ... interrupted. A great aerial to practice this on is Ike's Fair. A SHFF'd Fair will only swing about half the full arc, ending with the sword horizontal on the ground. Wolf's Nair is pretty good for this too.

After that, learn to L-Cancel at the proper time. Congrats, you can SHFFL.

 

[guedes the brawler]

thanks for the advice!

 

[THK]

Mario.

10char

 

[DrinkingFood]

Looking to get better, but i honestly have no idea of who to pick to try to learn the advanced stuff. Any suggestions?


Oh, and what would be the best way to start learning how to SHFFL? I am thinking of only doing two of the 3 techs at once instead of everything in one go, until i get the hang of it.

There are a lot more than 3 advanced techs
But there are a few that you hear the most about

 

[BILL?]

I think he meant the techs that make up the steps of SHFFL'ing, not like 3 AT's in all of smash. Whoo boy that'd be a strange game.

Well for a suggestion of an important tech, I think even a basic understanding of DI can go a long way to keeping you alive longer in a match. Plus the basics of DI are easy enough to learn (it was the first AT that I ever learned.) there are some good threads in the melee boards here, but the basic "survival DI" goes like this: You get hit with some big attack launching you sideways? then tilt up or down on the control stick. Get launched upwards? tilt to the right or left. DI works best when you have the control stick at a 90 degree angle to the angle at which your character is launched.

If you already knew about DI, then maybe teching would be a good next AT to learn. You know how your character sometimes gets hit downwards, tumbles in the air, and hits the floor and just lies there for a moment? Teching lets you stand up almost immediately or roll away upon hitting the ground. Good teching will make it harder for opponents to combo you.
Basically, when your character is 'tumbling', tap L or R at some point during a window of about 2/3 of a second (20 frames) before you hit the ground. When you hit the ground, you will stand right back up. Don't press L or R more than once, or you won't be able to tech for the next 40 frames. Tech in place lets you stand up with a brief moment of invincibility, and involves just the tap of L or R. Tech Rolls involve using the control stick to input left or right along with L or R. Your character will immediately roll to the side when you hit the ground.

 

[BILL?]

Pick a relatively standard character, Marth can be good because he teaches you a lot about precision with your spacing, he has a pretty normal moveset, and he is just a solid character in general. Fox is good too (he's Fox), and can be good for learning because the timing is strict.