What buffs would Marth need to be top tier?

[Jenna Zant]

Not broken, but just top tier.

 

[Newtonjar]

I think the two most important buffs he would need would be 1. buffed frame data on his moves in general, especially his aerials. 2. would be that he really needs a combo throw, bad at this point he lacks the killer combo game he had in the previous iterations of smash and having combo throws that could lead up to big damage would be majorly helpful for Marth.

 

[MOI-ARI]

To me, all he needs is

-Dthrow- combo game*

-Double Fair off SH

-Increase DolphinSlash KB ( and speed? Basically make it match at least Brawl's DS)

-Increase meteor window and size on dair, (improve frames for Ken kill combos?)

-more true combos into Tipper Usmash



I feel there is more, but maybe enough to easily make him a top contender. But honestly i like how Marth is, he takes precision and patience. His tipper is great and satisfying, but in a game so defensive he needs a proper neutral. So at least give him back his fairs.

 

[ArcanaXIII]

Combo throw, better frame data, fix animations so that hitboxes actually match his sword trails, and faster running speed.

 

[Rashyboy05]

Honestly, all he needs is a fix of his animations and a better end and landing off his tilts and aerials. A better combo game might make him a bit broken but if a combo game is necessary then make his D-Throw and F-Throw have less knockback while increasing the knockback of his B-throw and U-throw.

 

[ぱみゅ]

Why are people so obsessed with combos?
Just get his Fair back (range, speed, autocancel and all that), and boom! instantly back to high tier.

 

[Rinku リンク]

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[LZCXR]

Honestly I feel that he only needs better frame data (especially less landing lag in his aerials), throw followups,and maybe the ability to combo better

 

[Darklink401]

Fixing his active frames (sword trails that don't damage, Ike and MK got fixed, so he deserves it as well )

Dthrow with less KB

A bit of a faster fair would be nice.

 

[MOI-ARI]

Fixing his active frames (sword trails that don't damage, Ike and MK got fixed, so he deserves it as well )

Dthrow with less KB

A bit of a faster fair would be nice.

NO. YOU ARE WRONG.

 

[Deleted member]

Lagless smash attacks.

 

[Newtonjar]

Lagless smash attacks.

I'm pretty sure there is no such thing as a lagless move.

 

[Deleted member]

Ganondorfs Up Smash, worthy smash attacks.

 

[Locuan]

There's already a thread dedicated for Buff Discussion, you could ask this question there.
http://smashboards.com/threads/what...easier-to-hit-general-buff-discussion.406759/