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What am I doing wrong?

ShortKidSean

Smash Rookie
Joined
Mar 5, 2015
Messages
1
Please excuse any errors, I'm on mobile.

I've been playing smash competitively for probably 6 - 8 months now, and I'm incredibly frustrated.

Whenever I practice alone, I can always get the movement I want. Whether it be pillaring with Falco or speed with Marth, I can always perform far better than I can whenever I play against anyone.

My hands just don't work as well, even slipping on the control stick multiple times during a match. I know exactly what I want to do, but I can't pull it off.

Anyone have any tips?
 

Varist

Smash Lord
Joined
Feb 7, 2011
Messages
1,603
Location
Austin
That's nerves. Everyone gets them. A lot of your progress in this game will be trying to control yourself under pressure.

You're not the first person who has had this exact problem, the only person, or the last person. This is a competitive fighting game where everything is dynamic and you have someone actively trying to destroy you. Your hands are crumbling under pressure because you are crumbling under pressure. Your hands will also get sweatier as you feel more stressed, this game provokes a fight or flight response during intense matches. You need to learn to accept the stress and control it, and physically keep your hands steady and precise.

Some characters use disruption of their opponent's composure and tech skill as a strategy for winning. An example you may immediately recognize are Falco's lasers, this game's premiere disruption mechanic. You're getting thrown off and possibly frustrated. You have practiced rhythmic inputs and are not yet consistent enough to change gears suddenly and reactively.

There are no tips, there is only what will work for you to get this under control. The better you get and the higher stakes matches you play, be it for pride of money, the more pressure you will find yourself under. During the match, try not to think about context, or what happens if you win or lose. Don't think about anything. Focus on your opponent's character, playing fast and reactively, and doing what you practiced. Let your hands take over and shut your emotions off. That's the best advice you will ever get and you should take it to heart.
 
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BBOY15

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Nov 18, 2014
Messages
149
Location
Maine
Try to get so good at tech skill that most of it becomes second nature. Then, when you're playing someone, try to watch your opponent more than you watch your own character. When you're really good at tech skill, you don't have to spend as much of your mental energy on timing things, leaving you with more mental energy to use on paying attention to the match. Try to take something away from every game you play. A loss isn't a total loss if you remember how to better tackle a certain situation. Pay a ton of attention during matches and try extremely hard. If you pay attention to how your opponent landed hits on you successfully, then when your opponent is about to try his same tricks again, your memory will kick in and you will be able to predict his movement.

There is a difference between the moves you have the technical skill to pull off, and the moves you have actually worked into your game. You may know how to pillar combo, but you won't be able to pillar combo in a real game unless you have figured out ahead of time what situation you want to do it in (though after you pull off a move enough times, you'll be able to spontaneously decide to do it in a random situation). What I do is I list out in my head all the literal options I have for each situation. For Falco, it might look something like this:

Neutral game options:
Shorthop lasering
Nair approach
Predict opponent's attack and shield grab them

I'm below the opponent:
Jump and Bair them
Jump and Nair them

I've grabbed the opponent:
Down throw into up tilt
Up throw > Jump > Bair


After creating your mental list of options, remember it while you play some games. Whenever you're in a situation, like say, neutral game, you would think to yourself: "Do I want to A. Shorthop laser, B. Neutral air approach, or C. Try to shield grab them?". As you play more games, you'll be able to run through your mental list of options faster and faster. And it will take less time to think of all your options and figure out which one you want to do. Then, once you've played enough such that you've used all your options a lot, applying X option to Y situation will become reflexively ingrained in your mind, and you will be able to quickly figure out which option you want to do, thus using up less mental energy and allowing you to use more mental energy on studying your opponent. After you have played enough games to practice applying all of your moves/options, add more to your list. It might look something like this next:

Neutral game options:
Shorthop lasering
Nair approach
Predict opponent's attack and shield grab them
Wavedash forward into F-tilt
Shorthop Nair > fastfall > L cancel > shine > Jump > Dair

I'm below the opponent:
Jump and Bair them
Jump and Nair them
Jump > Shine > Jump > Bair
Up tilt them

I've grabbed the opponent:
Down throw into up tilt
Up throw > Jump > Bair
Up throw > wait > Usmash


After you add a couple of things to your list of moves, play some games against real people until you are able to incorporate all of the moves on your new list. Then add a couple more to your list, then play more games until you can incorporate those. Keep repeating the process and you will soon get a lot better.

Remember when I said this above: "applying X option to Y situation will become reflexively ingrained in your mind, and you will be able to quickly figure out which option you want to do"? I wouldn't take this too literally because if you always apply a certain move to a certain situation, you will get predictable. What I mean is to figure out when it's generally best to use each move and apply that knowledge. When you get really good at tech skill, applying all your tricks in real games, and making quick decisions on what to do, you will be able to alter when you do your moves to counter your opponent's playstyle and out-mindgame them.
 
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Roukiske

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Oct 13, 2014
Messages
377
Location
CA
The struggle of a lab monster. Like @ Varist Varist said, its mostly nerves.

Practicing stuff against computers or going into training mode (Hitting the lab in FGC terms) does not prepare you for humans. Just try to play with more people, preferably friends since you should be less nervous around them. It may not even be nerves, you are not used to a normal opponent who moves and reacts and possibly DI's. Hitting the lab is useful, but it may set you up for some bad habits. It could be as simple as not knowing how to do your combo on the right side because you always practice left side.

Don't fret about it. I practiced L canceling and was able to do it almost all the time by myself. Then when playing with friends I realized that I wasn't even applying any of my lab stuff. To this day, I can pull off my MvC3 combos in lab with maybe a 90% chance. When I play real people? It goes out the window because I didn't play enough human opponents. Things like this don't come to everyone in a snap. Give it time.

So go find some people and play for fun and soon it will become second nature.
 
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GameRat

Smash Cadet
Joined
Feb 28, 2015
Messages
35
Location
Lafayette, Louisiana
I get same thing. I got nervous while playing in a tournament last week, and I didn't play as well and I lost.

Playing tournaments more often should help you get used to it though. Invite your friends over if you have to. You can overcome this nervousness, it just takes practice.
 
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