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We all know Waluigi's an assist trophy, but is there still hope?

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I think that even though Waluigi, a character with a lot of potential, is an assist trophy, he could still be playable. Here's a brief list of reasons why.

1) Popular amongst fans.
When Waluigi was revealed to be an assist trophy, people were understandably upset, myself included. Because of how vocal the fans have been, he could be made playable at a later date.

2) Appeared in several games.
Sure, Waluigi hasn't got his own game yet and hasn't appeared outside of spinoffs, but the fact that he's only appeared in spinoffs means that he could have a very unique moveset and the Mario spinoffs would have some proper representation in Smash.

3) The poor guy needs some love.
Luigi's self-pitying purple rival isn't the happiest of people. The lack of his own game and a history of not being playable in Smash doesn't help much at all. By becoming playable, it could mean that a bright, promising future could be forged for Waluigi.

4) Palkia is both a stage hazard and an assist character.
Since the Spear Pillar stage is returning, as well as the Poké Ball-summoned Palkia, that means Palkia could be both a stage hazard and an assist character. Could a similar thing happen to the lanky crook Waluigi? Could he be both an assist trophy and playable?

5) When Waluigi's fighting, Waluigi AT cannot appear OR someone replaces him.
If Waluigi becomes playable, what about his AT? Well, there's 2 things that could be done, both of which only happen when he is fighting. Solution 1 to this issue would be to make the Waluigi AT unavailable to use during the entire match Waluigi is in. Solution 2 would involve having someone do the same things Waluigi's AT does while Wario's tall partner is fighting. The 2 characters that I find to be likely for this job would be Birdo (The fact that she can shoot eggs is a problem though) and Chain Chomp (because of Mario Tennis Aces).

So, there you have it. Please let me know what you think.
 

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I honestly don't see it. Aside from the stupidly loud internet meme culture, Waluigi is ultimately more or less as popular as Daisy, who I'm sure most people can agree only really made it in due to how easy it was to make her a clone. There's no obvious character for Waluigi to take a moveset from, so he'd probably need to be completely original. I doubt he'd be high on the priority list for that.
 

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Yes, I might be setting myself I for disappointment. That's true. At least every single character from the past games at here though.
Also, if he doesn't make it in, we can expect to see him in a future Smash game.
 

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The planet speaks the truth. Assist trophies are a disconfirmed as you can get without a full leaked roster. Maybe (like less than 10%) DLC will fix that but certainly not in the base game.
 

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The planet speaks the truth. Assist trophies are a disconfirmed as you can get without a full leaked roster. Maybe (like less than 10%) DLC will fix that but certainly not in the base game.
Why are they "as disconfirmed as you can get"? Nothing's stopping Sakurai from making Waluigi playable, is there? It's not like he's made a decision that can't be altered in some way.
 

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Why are they "as disconfirmed as you can get"? Nothing's stopping Sakurai from making Waluigi playable, is there? It's not like he's made a decision that can't be altered in some way.
Remember that the roster is always set in stone in pre-production, before development actually starts. If they decided that Waluigi was going to be playable in pre-production, they wouldn't have added the assist trophy.
 

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I don't think there is any hope. The roster is done by now. You can hope for DLC, but we don't even know if there will be DLC for Smash Ultimate.

Personally, I am glad. If we get a non-echo Mario newcomer, there are more interesting characters like someone from Paper Mario (if not Paper Mario himself) or Geno (property of Square-Enix, but still a Mario character). I never understood the Waluigi meme.
 

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I'll just state that Waluigi's fate has pretty much been sealed. The same also applies to Knuckles, so there's no point of beating up a dead horse any further.
 

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Remember that the roster is always set in stone in pre-production, before development actually starts. If they decided that Waluigi was going to be playable in pre-production, they wouldn't have added the assist trophy.
It's still not too late though. For all we know, he could be a surprise character or something. I find it more likely he'll be DLC though.
I don't think there is any hope. The roster is done by now. You can hope for DLC, but we don't even know if there will be DLC for Smash Ultimate.

Personally, I am glad. If we get a non-echo Mario newcomer, there are more interesting characters like someone from Paper Mario (if not Paper Mario himself) or Geno (property of Square-Enix, but still a Mario character). I never understood the Waluigi meme.
I find Geno quite unlikely. Also, I don't want Waluigi in just because of his popularity through memes. I believe he actually has the potential to be a unique and useful character.
 

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Whatever you do, please don't harass Sakurai on twitter about it, people have been doing that and it seems super spiteful, unnecessary and ungrateful.

Other than that, I don't see it happening, but I hope he can make it, because it'd make you happy!
 

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I'll just state that Waluigi's fate has pretty much been sealed. The same also applies to Knuckles, so there's no point of beating up a dead horse any further.
Eh, I never really thought any more Sonic characters would be added, so, yeah. Didn't really care about Knuckles.
Also, I wouldn't consider this a "dead horse" just yet. I'm remaining hopeful for now and just speculating. That's the least I can do.
Whatever you do, please don't harass Sakurai on twitter about it, people have been doing that and it seems super spiteful, unnecessary and ungrateful.

Other than that, I don't see it happening, but I hope he can make it, because it'd make you happy!
Thanks. And I would never harass a man as great as Sakurai.
 

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Waluigi is doomed until DLC, he's absolutely not going to be in the base game, he's popular for sure, but if popularity were to trump his role as a assist trophy, I don't think they would have given him the role this game anyway. Thing is though, we don't really know how the DLC's character selection will work, anything could happen then depending on how they make decisions for the roster then, but even then I wouldn't get my hopes up, it'd be unlikely and it could very well end up being impossible still.
 

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I just remembered something. In Pokkén, Croagunk was a support Pokémon initially, but later on, it became playable too. That's basically what I hope will happen to Waluigi, though it doesn't have to happen the same way.
 
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